it's a big one for bill mcclay. are there historic examples of a civilization surviving and recovering from an elite that hates? the civilization is a little too targeted. it's got some punch to it. well love i i the part about the relief that hates its civilization hits it little difficult to to respond to but i think that when the fastest i think things about the history of rome. is that the extent to which rome? i mean there's a sort of way that we understand rob is falling and something sort of different happened brett. rome is transformed into the the of these western christianity. and christians were the despise minority. this little by little because of their personal example more than anything begin to well when they're away weave their way into the social structure of roman society to the point, whereby the time i mean diet lesion is sort of a last attempt to get rid of them and then constantine comes to power he is himself. converted some debate about how just how christian he was, but but he makes the rel