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bill moyer described judge johnson and said that he altered forever the face of the south. burke marshall, a lot of the professors served with distinction and the kennedy justice department said that these four judges, dr. specht mentioned them including judge johnson had made as much of an imprint on american society and american law as any four judges below the supreme court had ever done in history. so if you look at these kinds of

as bill moyer says in our film, if you breathe clean air, if you drink clean water, if you vote when you couldn't vote before, you owe something to hubert humphrey. it's that legislation that really is his legacy. he also wanted to be president, and he was never shy about it. he just admitted he wanted to be president forr for all the righ reasons, i have to say. then what can be learned from that campaign maybe is that -- well, one thing is learned. this was the early days of money in campaigns. the kennedy campaign really started that whole process of money in campaigns, large money, and humphrey didn't have any. so he didn't -- he had none, and he basically borrowed money into october when he finally made a speech sort of against vietnam, the vietnam war, coming home from the vietnam war. he began to raise money then, but until that time he had no tv advertising. the lesson can be learned from that that you especially in day and age of ridiculous money in plans that you need to be prepared and have a plan and have money. part of why he didn't have any of this is because of the '68

of the new book corporations are not people let's go back to a brilliant book with a forward by bill moyers i should add and a blurb on the back from tom hartman. if i find myself in good company who was lewis paul lewis powell was really the father of the new corporate rights movement he was a lawyer in richmond virginia in the one nine hundred sixty s. he joined the board of directors of the philip morris tobacco company the cigarette company he was on the board of about a dozen other big corporations corporate lawyer and in about nine hundred seventy after witnessing twenty million people twenty million americans come out into the streets to demand better controls on earth day april nine hundred seventy to demand better balance about air pollution rivers catching on fire toxic waste dump basically corporate corporations externalizing everything poisonous and toxic and keeping the profits american said enough and we got a wave of environmental reform the first e.p.a. clean water act clean air act endangered species act and so on the incredible wave of reform with richard nixon in the whit

bill moyers? spent those many years gathering big paychecks and prestige at public expense as a pbs celebrity, absolutely. he's been a left wing activist for years. you know, but at public expense which is the amazing part. >> but you look at -- so they wanted to -- initially, you know, david brock who spent some time in the quiet room, he would go to these donors and say, look, we're going to be a watchdog group and keep an eye on the fox newschannel and fox news as well. and so they said, ok, here's a great big check. you got to figure, he didn't say by the way, we've got this plan, there's this e-mail circulating. we're going to hire private investigators to follow people from fox news. we're going to do opposition research into not only people on the air but people behind the scenes and executives. we're going to destroy -- we're going to try to destroy a private corporation that is in the business of news! you think they knew that? >> of course they knew it. that was in their fundraising docu

that's managed by long time pbs host bill moyers and his son. barbra streisand foundation. 50,000. >> and let's be clear about who exactly media matters is run by david broke with questionable background. this is an organization dedicated to one thing. basically attacking fox news and any type of conservative message and to silence anything in fact coming out of this network. the problem to clayton's point is they have tax exempt status. what is 501 c 3? it is clearly defined. those organizations may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates. now, we have been told by the dale live caller who investigated this organization, they have regular meetings with the white house how to silence these type of messages. >> it's also interesting. think about where you can actually put your money. if you are sitting out there saying i want to make a charitable. i want to give it to nonprofit. somebody who could really use the money. >> boy scouts, girl scouts. >> red c

bill, thank you. >>> coming up on moyers & company, the editor of "poetry" magazine, christian wiman. >> reading a poemcan be an act of resistance because it can be an act of individual consciousness in this onslaught of information that's coming at us. >> and go to our website, billmoyers.com where my conversation with kathleen hall jamieson continues. i have a video essay there with some thoughts on the difficult first amendment path between freedom of religion and freedom from religion. and there's more with rita dove. that's all at billmoyers.com. see you there. that's all at billmoyers.com. see you there. and see you here, next time. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com

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