the comments the president made to bill o'rielly and the kremlin saying they didn't like bill o'rielly saying that vladimir putin is a killer demanding an apology from him. the media pouncing on this and again it is one of those things while there are policy changes going on, they get very invested in this kind of back and forth. is that a shiny object intentionally maybe being put in front of the press so they go off in one direction and meanwhile the president is doing something else? that's what it looks like. what do you think? >> it's interesting so many critics of donald trump said he is unfiltered and he will get us into all kinds of disputes with foreign governments because he is too blunt. he is like the new testament character of nathaniel in whom there is no guile. no pretense, no phoniness, what you see is what you get. here is the interesting take on all that. so donald trump is acting more statesman like and saying i'm not going to call another foreign leader a murderer or thug on international television. that makes it hard to work with them. so he doesn't do it and inst

federal judge out of virginia ruled against the order and cited an interview the president did with bill o'rielly as putting the kibosh on that. >> bill: you have to think how loyal flynn was with the president and how he was on board from the beginning and the guy president trump chose to speak in cleveland, ohio. this is a guy they were in lock step together. >> shannon: politics is tough. >> bill: the president promised to deliver on immigration. outrage on the other side of the aisle for trying to fulfill that promise. >> we've reached a low point in american journalism. as for the far left, they are people who do not want any immigration enforcement. they want open borders, they want alien criminals protected, they want anarchy. >> bill: that from last night. this from today. all these recent raids taking hundreds of convicted criminals off the streets. why do some people have a problem with that? we'll debate it fair and balanced from the right and left today. >> shannon: it looks like a crisis has been averted in california where the nation's tallest dam threatened to break. how long until

here is karl rove explaining to bill o'rielly what he interprets this move to be last night. >> this is literally what it says. here is what you'll prioritize. anybody who has committed a criminal offense, anybody charged with a criminal offense. anybody who committed a chargeable offense. somebody who is engaged in fraud to get a government benefit. abused a benefit program or subject to a lawful removal order and failed to comply or a risk to public safety or national security. that's a pretty good standard that a lot of people would agree with. >> that's a mouthful. but simply stated, the left is saying this is a deportation force and the right is saying we're simply enforcing the laws on the books as they stand today. where are you between both of those, katie? >> first i think that chuck schumer is making these claims there will be a massive make those force with very claims. he is doing it to score some political points. i don't know if he is going off the botched a.p. report from last week saying that hundreds of thousands of national guard troops will be used to go into neigh

president trump talking about border security with bill o'rielly about that very topic. >> we have to do something about the cartels. i talked to him about it. i think he is a very good man and we have a good relationship as you probably know. we'll have a wall and a border. we have to stop drugs from coming into our country. and if he can't handle it and maybe they can and maybe they can't, maybe he needs help, he seemed very willing to get help from us because he has got a problem and it is a real problem for us. >> bill: secretary kelly likely to face questions on the cost of the wall and how the administration plans to pay for it. that's underway in 30 minutes. >> melissa: fox news alert as state and federal lawyers gear up for a fight over president trump's travel ban. the white house calls it vital to national security. a point kellyanne conway highlighted for us moments ago. >> terrorism is real, isis is on the advance. they promised -- at some point they promised to disguise themselves as refugees coming into the u.s. others have promised to continue to do their blood-letting

cites a number of interviews the president has done before elected and since been elected one with bill o'riellynd she said based on her gathering of all this evidence there was an an mouse there that couldn't be remedied. i want to read part of what she said. the evidence in the record focuses on the president's statements about a muslim ban and the giuliani established between that and the executive order. how can they draft something new to make that go away? if a federal judge is looking to other conversations and interviews that have happened, those can't be erased. >> they can't be erased but it's absurd. with all due respect to the court, this is absurd. the judge is striking down an executive order as unconstitutional because of newspapers reports or things she saw or heard on tv? this is not the way it works. the idea that you are having seven countries of origin that are listed which means 85% of the muslim world is not included in this ban, how is a court going to determine this is religious discrimination? as you know i've argued a lot of religion clause cases at the supreme court. i

bill: thanks for coming up today. how about that? you have given o'riellyme last night. >> i can't help he was a little sensitive. >> bill: you held your ground. his point was at what point do the town hall hecklers cross the line? >> bill, if he was up there he would last longer than the congressman. >> bill: he would have booted all of them. thank you. >> shannon: we're just getting in a little video. mike pence is doing a swearing in ceremony for the secretary of commerce, wilbur ross. he finally made it in with the formal vote in the senate. it has become an official position now there so we watch the video of the vice president swearing him in and another member of the trump cabinet takes his place in the cabinet. there are others still waiting in the wings. we're going to learn more about them. rick perry, former texas governor is still waiting as energy secretary and the secretary of interior nominee congressman ryan zinke waiting as well. they're expected in short order that they will be teed up and get their votes in the senate as well. the senate'