and bill payne, a former new jersey assemblyman.at to have you both with us on this historic day. >> i'll start with you. how should the movement be defined 6 years later? >> well i think the - obviously the selma march was memorialized today as a mop umental move part of the civil right movement. today, getting together and recognising those people who participated some 50 years ago at that particular time was something that needed to be done, shut be done, and memorialize that. when i think about it 50 years ago, or today, 50 years later, there's more that needs to be done. so much mar that we hoped would have been accomplished by this time. unfortunately, it seems as though the racism that we experienced way back then is rearing its ugly head and has never gone away. i think what we'll see now with the selma march and the ferguson issues are those that will awaken people now. >> as we look at the haunting images, ms gillespie, it was not only a day to reflect on the past, but to shine a light on the future was it not. >> yes. it