up about 19% this week on track for the best week since august of 2020 for more let's bring in bill perkinsr capital management explain the move today in nat gas. what's behind it. >> it is the weather over the last five years we have had this energy policy to jump out the plane and putt the parachute on in the air. we have a lot of renewables and infrastructure that is basically making the grid less stable and less reliable with cold shocks. >> in other words the reliance on let's call it new energy technology is just not as i guess i would say elastic and able to respond as well as the old energy technology? i want you to elaborate. >> correct so we have had basically a 3 bcf a day tightening and xaser baited in the winter we have had pipelines stopped from being permitted we haven't put in new infrastructure as the economy and population has grown and when we have the shocks to the system we have to solve that with price and the price moving in dramatic fashion and if this continues in the later years we see the system break but right now i don't think the system's going to break. i thin

down big today after jumping 14% yesterday, up something like 30% year the date we are joined by bill perkinsceo of sky lumbar. you don't need a weather man to know it is going to be cold this winter are we seeing these major swings because traders are building hypotheses on how cold it's going to get >> yeah, yesterday we saw a cold shot come in on the models and people are in the mode of buy first, ask questions later they don't want a repeat of what happened also year where we had astronomical prices and loss of life in texas with the cold shot after the close yesterday people started asking questions not only how cold is it but where it is going to be cold matters. we don't expect -- and it is highly unlikely we will see that type of weather, and thus prices gave up most of their gains from yesterday. >> you know, you had a year last year where natural gas rose for most of the year it was up 47%, the contract in 2021 but in the fourth quarter, it melted away very, very quickly what kind of year should we expect >> well, i think right now prices need to normalize and equilibrate. stocks ar