why bill perry includes his peas with these words. he said time is of the essence and if we don't find a way and soon to freeze their west for this crisis could spin out of control, leading to a second korean war, adding far more devastating than the first. guest: that's exactly right. it is no suppressed that bill parry would be focusing just on exactly what he ought to be. i think the way i would hope the new administration will look at this situation. comments, call and our guess is robert gallucci, now a professor at georgetown. democrats line from palm beach gardens florida. welcome to the congress ocean. caller: good morning. wondering how is he going to negotiate this opening? how do you negotiate with north korea? guest: that's a fair question, given the experience given the obama administrations where negotiations never got going. weis quite possible that will not have an adequate basis for negotiations, and will be talking about even cover -- tougher sanctions. enough toot tough follow what might be called the iran model. th

bill perry started it. good idea, but both in response to georgia, which was a serious problem and in response to ukraine, nato and russia took the position that we won't communicate. why do you have it if you are not going to communicate in a crisis? while we are trying now to figure out, or least we should be trying to figure out where to draw redlines in the cyber. everyday we have headlines on the cyber comic using russians of interfering with u.s. elections, etc.. it's apparent that other powers in the world have not developed understandings and redlines in the cyber area. we've got to do that. we've got to talk to do that. i think it would be the supreme irony if while we have not developed redlines in the cyber with which can interact warning systems and so forth, while we are not developing redlines in the cyber area, we seem to be forgetting the redlines we've already learned in the nuclear area. how down is that? it doesn't make sense and is not in the interest of our security or u.s. are russian

bill perry started it, both in response to georgia and in response to ukraine. nato took the position and russia did also that we won't communicate. why do you have it if you are not going to communicate in a crisis? the other thing i would say, while we are really trying now to figure out -- or at least we should be -- trying to figure out where to draw the red lines in the cyber area, we are accusing the russians of interfering with u.s. elections, etc., etc. it is apparent that u.s. and russia and other powers in the world, not just the u.s. and russia, have not developed understandings and red lines in the cyber area. we have got to do that. we have got to talk to do that. i think it would be the supreme irony if while we have not developed redlines in the cyber area, which can interact with nuclear warning systems and so forth -- while we are not developing redlines in the cyber area, we seem to be forgetting the redlines we have learned in the nuclear area. how d-u-m dumb is that? it doesn't make sense. it is not in the interest of u.s., russian, or world

you heard bill perry talk about that on military to military cooperation. i think that is what made this extraordinary program work. it's that the people who knew the dangers became the advocates and supporters of the cooperation that grew out of this danger. i do not know whether it was a situation from hell, but it was certainly a hellacious problem. it was an urgent problem in the case of the security of materials that were very broadly distributed in large numbers. in a circumstance in which the security apparatus was not paid . the defenses were not secure. the insider threat was not protected against at all. the anecdote to all of that is, i had the privilege of going the hadoing to the city, and we a dinner at the very beginning of the lab to lab program. we were presenting, in essence, a proposal. he stood up and gave an initial toast. it is one of russia's great weapons secrets that they get everybody drunk at these dinners. however, rodney gave a very nice toast. i stood up immediately afterwards to introduce my toast. i said, "i am told that one

bill perry just wrote about this. the decision was made by the bush administration not to continue those talks. i know would put north korea into one of the more dangerous aspects of what is going on out there. so i only use it as an example of the fact you may disagree with what president obama did. i may disagree with what president bush did. actually, steven and i took a pledge not to talk about the past. but i think that it is what it is and it is essential that there be some understanding of what the track is, what the role of the united states is, how we became as a responsible power in cooperation with others. and tweets doesn't do it for me. >> anybody else want to jump in on that? >> i will. i agree with secretary albright that if -- think of it as a diet. if your diet is exclusively shots of espresso, that's probably not a good thing. but as part of a fulsome diet where you are conducting normal diplomacy, you are executing agreements, you are negotiating treaties, you are moving military forces, i think an

it's related and there was an op ed this week by one of your predecessors and former secretary bill perryabout some sort of nuclear bomb that's used somewhere, anywhere, that this is a crisis that we're not paying enough attention to. you co-wrote an op ed with him ten years ago advocating that maybe there should be preemptive action against a north korea. north korea seems to be the one everyone is concerned about, that you would support nuclear facilities and would you advocate that now? >> that was a different circumstan circumstance, but with respect to north korea today, that's absolutely right. their nuclear weapons and ballistic missile defense program is a serious threat to us. we try to stay a we are staying ahead of that urelves.eployed missile dsejapa of course, we have 28,500 troops there today, chuck. we do every day. their slogan is fight tonight. we're ready to defend the korean peninsula and defend our friends and interests there. so in the defense department our job is to stay one step ahead of that. >> is it policy now that if they test intermediate range ballistic missi

i was in the middle of negotiation,s with the north koreans, and p bill pbill perry wrote about it. the decision made by the bush administration not to continue the talks so i would put north e korea into one of the more dangerous are aspects of what is going on out there, and i use atz an example that you may disagree with what president obama did, and i might disagree with what president bush did, and actually steve and i took a pledge not the to talk about the past, but it is it what itis, and it is essential that there is some understanding with what the track is, and what the role of the united states is, and how we behave as a responsible power in cooperation with others, and tweets doesn't do it for me. >> and anybody else want to jump in on that? >> i will. i agree with the secretary albright, that think of it as a diet f. your d-- of it as a die f. your diet is exclusively shots of expresso, but parts off a fulsome diet where you are conducting diplomacy, you are executing disagreements and executing treaties and moving forces and a extra shot of expresso can jazz you and e

let me just say -- i really liked from the beginning what bill perry said about the challenge of this separation of the variables and what we are going to do with this panel is separate those variables and address them separately. i would like to recall what the general said that he is optimistic, and the time to renew the work we have been talking about is not somewhere over the hills. there is -- it is not over the hills, but i expect there is still a lot of terrain to traverse to get there. that is what the members of the panel should talk about. .et me start with ahmet uzumcu we have seen progress to get sarin gas and other chemical weapons out of syria during the civil war. but there is still a lot going on besides all this great success. what are the lessons from your experience? and what are the biggest challenges ahead to getting to the goal of the organization which is a total prohibition of chemical weapons? mr. uzumcu: thank you. i consider it a great honor to participate in this 25th anniversary celebration of the most important program for reducing the threat of weapons o

bill perry was very concerned about this idea of essentially of some sort of nuclear bomb that's used somewhere, anywhere, that this is a crisis we're not paying enough attention to. you created a co-op with him ten years ago saying that maybe there should be preemptive action against north korea. would you advocate that now? >> that was a different circumstance then. but with respect to north korea today, that's absolutely right. their nuclear weapons and ballistic missile defense programs are a serious threat to us. we try to stay ahead of that, and we are trying. we are staying ahead of that with our missile defenses to make sure we have upgraded their number, their type, so we're sure we could defend ourselves. we have deployed missile defenses in south korea, japan, guam and of course we have 28,500 troops there today, chuck. we do every day. their slogan is fight tonight. we're ready to defend the korean peninsula and defend our friends there. so in the defense department our stop is today one step ahead. >> is it policy now that if they test a missile, the united states would s

. >> now the man who stood with bill perry, that defense secretary back in 2006, calling for a preemptive the current defense secretary in the obama administration, secretary ash carter. jim? >> north koreans have made a lot of progress since then. thanks. if escalating tensions lead to war, how would american soldiers and their families in south korea protect themselves? cnn's alexandra field has an exclusive look at how u.s. citizens there are now preparing for the worst. >> reporter: jim, u.s. military personnel around the world are prepared for the possibility of confronting danger. but it's a much more unique situation that their family would also have to prepare. but that's the reality in south korea. it's a possibility that the u.s. military takes so seriously that they actually require these families to maintain a certain level of readiness to evacuate. and in this case we are able to ride along as they practiced taking some of these family off the peninsula. >> like a fish in a fish tank. >> reporter: for brianna martinez, home is a place that's technically at war. >> this will p

former secretary of defense bill perry did a whole review of how we were supposed to operate. so in the course of that, what happened again in the summer of 2000, the number two guy, vice marshal cho, came to the united states and wanted to see about having a different relationship. and so he and i signed an agreement of non-hostile intent that we were not intending to do anything and vice versa. when he came to see me in the state department, he came in a three-piece pinstripe suit. then the next day, we went to the oval office, he was in full uniform and he gave president clinton a red folder in which he invited him to come to north korea. president clinton wisely said i might come at some point but we have to prepare it so i'm sending the secretary of state. they were not wild about that. and we, you know, i went. we had no idea. our intelligence said that kim jong-il was crazy and a pervert. i went there and he was not crazy. >> but he was -- sec. albright: so i get there. >> evidence, please? sec. albright: well, what's interesting was i go and because we had no embassy,

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perry: i ask unanimous consent that all members have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks an include extraneous materials on the bill under consideration. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. perry: i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. perry: i rise in support of h.r. 347, the department of homeland security acquisition documentation act. it requires the department of homeland security to improve management of major purposes of systems to secure the border, better screen travelers, protect our shores and other vital missions. too often, d.h.s. has failed to document what these programs will cost. when they will be complete. and what they actually will deliver. it is unacceptable to spend billions of taxpayer dollars and not document this basic but important information. h.r. 347 will help our committee and congressional watchdogs hold the department accountable and ensure taxpayer dollars are being spent in an efficient and effective manner. safeguarding america's hard-earned tax dollars is why our constituents sent us here in the first place

rick perry will go before a senate bill next week for his confirmation hearing.trump's nominee for energy secretary. as the longest-serving governor in texas, he was an advocate of american energy and oversaw a state that is a powerhouse in fossil fuels and renewables. president obama paid tribute today to vice president joe biden, praising him as a store near he met with an externally career in public service. at the white house with biden by his side, he says his selection of joe biden as his vice president was the best possible choice, not just for him, but for the american people. that is the highest honor a civilian can receive. global news 24 hours a day powered by more than 2600 journalists and analysts in more this is countries. bloomberg ♪ . ♪ joe: lifted a greatly recap of today's market action. you can we ran across the board. across the board, but nothing too major. the dow jones down close to 180 points. a big comeback. a similar story in government bond yield. we saw a big decline in yields earlier in the day, but then it bounced back up. a modest d

perry and ryan zinke. no explanation given. >>> democrats shooting down a plan to replace obamacare. senators bill cassidy say the bill gives the states more power on health care policy and increases insurance and covers millions of americans. at the core of the proposals, any state that likes obamacare can keep it. this proposal is an empty facade to create chaos. republicans should drop the plans and work with democrats to improve, not gut the affordable care act. >> one thing for schumer. it is unlikely it will get republican votes. it just goes to show how hard it will be for republicans to come up with one plan they all agree with. >>> frightening moments during the state of the state address in minnesota delivered by governor mark dayton. he touted the success of the affordable care act when he suddenly started slurring his words. >> that's hard to watch. no cause for the fainting spell. the chief of staff said it was hot and crowded. he was checked by emts and allowed to go home. he plans to deliver the budget plans this morning. he is said to be fine. he was joking with the emt. >> 45 minu

bill: thank you, chris. stand by. chris is watching all the events. we see rick perry now in his seat as well. ank you, chris. >> you bet. >> bill: so we spicer. >> shannon: we do. the setup there in washington this is going to be the first time he does go head-to-head with the press as he is preparing officially to become the white house press secretary. will they get into substance? we'll take you there live. hello, i'm an idaho potato farmer and i finally found our big idaho potato truck. it's been touring the country telling folks about our heart healthy idaho potatoes, america's favorite potatoes, and donating to local charities along the way. but now it's finally back home where it belongs. aw man. hey, wait up. where you goin'? here we go again. >> bill: just so you know we're watching the podium. sean spicer will be out any moment now. when it gets underway we'll take you there. we expect it and 9:30. you won't miss a thing with him. senate minority leader chuck schumer out of new york slamming the cabinet in waiting. he said the following just yesterday about republicans trying to ram

bill clinton. what do you think are the big issues that face the energy right now and do you think rick perry's the to handle them? >> i do think rick perry's up to the job, although he admitted he made a dumb statements years ago, which we politicians do quite frequently, but i do think he's up to the job, one the big challenges are not just oil and gas issues, in fact there's a minor part of the job. the main challenges are nuclear weapons arsenal, that the department of energy, the national labs, los alamos, nuclear weapons policy, relationships with russia are very important, nuclear waste through various states, electricity issues. the big problem that i have, and i think rick is capable because he has political stature and that's what you need this that job, is what is this president going to do about climate change? i mean the first day, inaugural day, they eliminated the climate change information from the white house website. for rick perry, he is one of the main climate change people pushing renewable energy, pushing solar and wind. we have to keep our commitment there and i'm worried tha

bill cassidy here on c-span2. then senate commerce committee chairman talks about the law on the internet. the energy and natural resources committee will vote tomorrow on the nomination of former republican texas governor rick perryenergy department. mr. perry testified last week that his confirmation hearing, we will have that later. >> c-span's washington journal live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up tuesday morning, pennsylvania republican congressman keith Ãwill discuss president trump's relationship with congressional republicans. in the house republican agenda. then connecticut democratic congressman jim himes joins us to talk about the democratic agenda for the new legislative session. be sure to rc spans washington journal live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on tuesday morning. during the discussion. >> republican senators bill cassidy and susan collins announced their plans to replace the affordable care act with what they are calling the patient freedom act. they contrasted their bill with the existing healthcare laws. this briefing is 30 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> thank you all.i think we can start. susan and i and we are going to tr

perry and mnuchin will face tough questioning. watch. >> i'm just asking, did you buy the stock and then did you introduce a bill that would be helpful tompanies you just bought stock? >> the stock was bought by a broker that was making those decisions, i wasn't making those decisions. >> these are your stock trades, though, they are listed under your name, right? maria: mnuchin expecting line of questioning today. he's confronting claims that he took advantage of the mortgage meltdownead on saying, quote, my experience confirm that had we must identify and eliminate unwise and burdensome policies which contribute to the disastrous outcomes that came in the wake of the collapse. he goes onto say f confirmed as treasury secretary i will work diligently and compassionly for the american people so we don't endeer anything like the meltdown of 2008 again. joining us right now former chief of staff under george w. bush and director josh bolton right here was. josh, good to see you. thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me in this spectacular place. maria: it really is. first give us your sense of con fir meaciÓn hearings and

perry has said he wanted to get rid of the energy department. now might be his chance. we're going to look ahead at his confirmation hearings set for this morning. first, billwe've been really warm in the lower 48. yesterday in fairbanks, it dipped to a negative 50 degrees. this is what happens when you take boiling water and throw it up in the air. inant snow fun. just look at the air. it's beautiful in slow motion. stuff affecting us in the lower 48, rain in louisiana and a couple tornado warnings in mississippi. nothing confirmed, no damage. as far as the rainfall goes, this is the rain that is going to soak the deep south that will make its way up to d.c. inauguration day, a brief period of light rain is likely sometime between 10:00 a.m. and about 2:00 p.m. opening remarks at 11:30 and the ceremony begins at noon. 47 degrees, that's good at least. it will be mild in the nation's capital. we'll continue to monitor the forecast for you. in the lower 48, it continues to be very mild. there's the setup. drive today. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. are you getting this? these numbers are off the charts... sir! what's the status? there's