i was being a little provocative, bill poole, but not entirely so.message from these notes because i didn't? >> no, absolutely not. the fed is in fact as the chairman said over and over again the fed is very transparent and what is transit has no organized strategic plan as how to go for war. david: well your successor at st. louis, current st. louis fed president, james bullard was talking today about tapering as though it could happen as soon as the next meeting. there seems to be, sort of a momentum in that direction but that doesn't represent the majority, does it? >> who knows. who knows. i think jim it correct that it could be at the next meeting. whatever the fomc decides the next meeting but the fomc is created a problem for itself. it has said, over and over again, that it will not raise the policy rate, the federal fund rate, until after it has stopped the quantitative easing. so, as they consider what to do with quantitative easing, it is inevitably a signal that they are putting policy rate on the table. maybe not right away, but it's on

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them in the risk pool so that to help pay the bills for the older, unhealthy people who are going to at pool. so, the insurance industry is skeptical. it's worried. it believes in the end this will result in increases in premiums, they're going to be blamed for and of course republicans will blame democrats for it when they occur. but at this point, they believe they have no choice and the president does have some authority to ask that this be done. >> the president hold on for a moment. the speaker of the house john boehner say scrap the whole plan, you can't fix it, get rid of. the democrats disagree. threw there are voices among the democrats beginning to waffle, shall we say. let's bring in democratic congressman matt cartwright from pennsylvania. where do you stand on the issue going forward? is it fixable or should the president just delay not only the one element of the affordable care act but the whole thing? >> well, wolf, you have to start from the backdrop. my district, where we have seen a downward spiral of the health care delivery industry, we've seen hospitals closing,

bill puts a lot of dollars in the pool to be used by veterans to pursue a traditional education at an i have my own opinion about what pedigree does in terms of your ability to find a job. if you can get into harvard or a private school, that probably situates you for an advantage when it comes time to find a job. those transitioning are no different than high schoolers that are looking to have an advantage once they start looking for a job. in terms of the for profit school issues, military.com has been sussing out the bad actors. the new g.i. bill puts a lot of dollars in the pool to be used by veterans to pursue a traditional education at an institution, and you will go to college, or perhaps to an online for-profit school. what we have seen more and more is there were some for-profit schools that were headed toward predatory. no service after the sale and the dropout rate was huge. if they did manage to get their degree and went to find a job, there was no appreciation by the employee or about the degree. that was not a good thing for the vet. there were some congressional committ

bills. collecting dust at the national assembly with some of the pool for as long as four hundred and eighty days the parties remain locked me in the investigation into a misplaced a transcript of the two thousand and seven inter korean summit is as follows allegations that the national intelligence service medal than last year's presidential election the ten bills increase by the meter business groups include measures to boost the housing market and make it easier for investors to invest in the company to list it on the context of new stock market for small to medium size businesses. this is representatives also asked lawmakers to vote with a number of working hours were actually instead of acquiring the word power reduction to go into effect immediately the rival parties agreed that these bills should be processed quickly. but the relief kennedy party floor leader ted don't hide it. expressing concern that the ongoing political impasse could fall back economic recovery. the democratic party floor leader tom gone hunting and decide that the conglomerate said also play an active role in crea

bill puts a lot to be usedthe pool by veterans to pursue a traditional education at a a look institution and you will go to college, or perhaps to an online for-profit school. what we have seen more and more is there were some for-profit schools that were headed toward -- predatory. no service after the sale and the dropout rate was huge. if they did manage to get their degree and went to find a job, there was no appreciation by the employee or about the degree. that was not a good thing for the vet. there were some congressional committees that went to try to figure out what went on. we sat down and said what we knew. we share matthew's concern that there are some institutions not doing a service for the veterans. you only have so many g.i. bill dollars. host: darius is up from maryland, a veteran. thank you for calling in. caller: good morning. i am and afghanistan veteran. in 2011.loyed i was still classified as a crew chief. i believe my skills are very talented. i have a stake clearance. i am akai clique inclined -- i am mechanically inclined. i still cannot get a job. i could not f

bill. i have a family member that's in one of the these states, has their own high-risk pool that has worked well. rand convert it through socialistic practices. >> so is the status two fine with you? >> no, i came to washington and actually toe perform health care, but to use the tools of market forces. not the government takeover that we have now. >> you say it's a government takeover, but and people -- why do you say government takeover? you're not for that. >> that's single payer. what you're actually seeing is there's less choices. in many of these places, most of the exchanges only have one insurance company at all. no real competition exists. >> is that your view? >> i want to echo something that dr. fleming said, and it's true. uninsured care happens innocence country and here's the problem. it's not properly accounted for. the people who pay for uninsured care at the moment are the hospitals, the doctor and all of the medical providers. because they keep absorbing this free care, absorbing the uninsured care, so right now if you live near carbondale, you don't have a local hospital.

pool. one of the things that republicans wanted to do, conservatives wanted to do when this bill was passed was figure out a way to expand these high-risk pools. the idea that there were no other ideas out there is just wrong. the missouri high-risk pool, like all the others, goes out of existence december 31. becky's insurance has been costing her, monthly premiums of around $650 a month. remember she's got a preexisting condition. she hadn't had insurance before she got in the high-risk pool. but she was in that pool, it was serving her needs. now her insurance, she's been told, will cost her $1,043 a month, a $400 increase on a working salary. that would allow her, she hopes, to keep the same doctors that she has now. one of my constituents said his wife, who had a preexisting condition, will lose her policy the same way, thanks to what's happening haoerbgs they don't know -- what's happening here they don't know if they can get more coverage or not. they're going to have to close the high-risk pool, look for coverage other places. and it's almost certain that coverage is going to be hig

bill: you need the he will rollee -- you need the enrollees. >> if it's not tblight money, then enough money doesn't go into the understand pools. you need 2.4 million young, healthy people to sign up. bill: democrats are expressing concern. if it's not workable come december 1, they will crank up the pressure. report that was the ultimatum delivered by senate democrats. the pressure because it's not going to be fixed perfectly will be increased. there will be a lot of pressure on senate democrats to delay the individual mandate which frankly would cut obamacare. >> reporter: it's a website. it's two months overdue. >> reporter: if amazon were running a website like this, amazon would be bankrupt. martha: fit was amazon maybe it would be working. this rollout taking its toll on democrats. a brand-new poll suggests a dramatic turnaround. 2014 in the mid-terms. you have democrats who appear to be losing the edge that they had. 49% say that they would go for a republican. 47 per se they would go for a democrat in that election. but just a month ago. democrats had a 50% to 42% advantage among registered voters. when you look back at

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that's why on this upton bill which as i said is -- not only does bad things to the affordable care act in terms of disrupting the risk pools, it tries to masquerade as something that does something positive which it does not. and that is why the upton bill is opposed by a broad coalition of groups of the the american heart association, the american diabetes association, the american cancer society, action network, national partnership for women and families. paralyzed veterans of america. anyone with a pre-existing -- 100 million people. families with people with pre-existing medical conditions, all of them benefit. the stories are so glorious and beautiful about what a difference the affordable care act has made to families. especially those with small children or those with pre-existing conditions. and to seniors. and again being a woman is no longer a pre-existing medical condition. so this is politics. it's not about policy. it isn't any attempt to improve the affordable care act. one way to improve it, though, is what we have in our previous question. give the state commissioners, state insurance commissioners, the au

what happens with the upton bill is, you're going otake a lot of people out of that new pool, in the individual marketplace, with this expanded group, and the ones that will come out are the healthier ones who can get a very good deal from insurers who cherry pick them and that's going to leave the weaker and the sicker inside and it's actually going to harm a whole lot more people than it helps. because the rates on many, many more millions of americans will go up as the others come out. so it's a dangerous step to take. and the way that upton has defined it, not just to say people who want to keep their insurance can, but will take a lot of others and let them opt out, as well, is very much directly designed to try and kill the affordable care act. that's why the club for growth and the heritage foundation, heritage action for example heartly endorsed his bill. believe me, if they're going to endorse it it's not because they want if affordable care act to work. >> kraut krautlamber wrote, you do it by subterfuge, hidden taxes, penalties, mandates and coverage requirements that yiel

and the president promised when he passed the bill and impossible in the long run it is budget neutral. if he wants to bail them out if the poolrrect. this could make it not budget neutral. and senator rubio is bailing out the insurance companies. and that could be a killer to the president's health care bill and that could undermine the exchanges and cause the death spiral. >> replace, repeal, the government shutdown and not politically expedient and texas senator ted cruz was right about a few things. does he get credit in the republican party now? >> i am one who said he does not get credit. this happen despite what he did. he called to defund obama care which was a political impossibility and no way that could be done with the democrats in control of the senate and the president in control of the white house. a democrat in control of the white house. what happened, happen in spite of that. and poll numbers in the shutdown, they went up in support of obama care. what is killing obama care is the implementation of the bill itself. and not ted cruz tit for tat strat in my opinion. njamie, thank you for joining us on saturday

pool. >> you're familiar--i'm sure you're familiar. i don't know why i'm asking if you're familiar with the bill that was passed today in the house. what's curious with that bill it will allow people to buy exchanges in the future that are outside the exchange. is that part of the disruptive affect that you're warning us? >> i think the legislation, the president, if i'm not mistaken, has indicated he's going to veto. what we're focused on is what the president announced yesterday. that proposal may work in some states where they've had problems with the facilitated exchanges. but for the state of washington we have a functioning exchange. people are getting signed up. they won't have problems accessing healthcare coverage. it's a different scenario for the state of washington. it actually move washington right along the path that president obama wants us to go. >> i think we thanksgivin thinkt commissioner kreidler. appreciate it. thank you. >>> china announced today it's easing it's one-child policy this week's rulen of the communist party with sweeping changes it has had. generations. >> this is basically amounts in future if e

it will essentially be a high risk pool iw which is expensive to cover. bill: many questions remaining how all this turns out. two hearings on tap. martha: a pair of twin bombings rocking lebanon's capital overnight. a powerful blast set off near iran's embassy in beruit. 23 people were killed in these explosions. 140 were injured. an affiliate of died has claimed responsibility threatening more attacks if iran does not pull its troops out of nearby syria. bill: picking up the pieces at home after this monster tornado. we have a look at the devastation in communities like washington, illinois. the pictures you are about to see have stunning. martha: how about this? the crack-smoking mayor of toronto is at it again. this time watch this. he takes out a 60-year-old woman. he's like a bull in a china shop. he has a tough time getting around that room. there she goes. bill: he caught her on the way down. points for recovery. george zimmerman arrested again. we have the 911 calls from florida. >> i'm doing this again. you just broke my glass table, you broke my sun

with pre-existing conditions can't be discriminated against, allowing small businesses to pool together. this is a bill that's been put together by conservatives in the house. in fact, a number of medical doctors, actual medical doctors, people with real-world experience in health care that helped draft this bill and ultimately we brought it forward and we have over 100 co-sponsors. i think the momentum is building as the president's law continues to collapse and his credibility collapses with it. people i think are looking for that better way and we have it with the american health care reform act. again, i thank the gentleman from indiana for his leadership. i yield back. mr. messer: i certainly appreciate the gentleman from louisiana and his leadership. i know you were quoted over the weekend on fox news by george will describing that the tragic circumstances that most americans see themselves in, those that have lost their health care plan and so i'd like you to expand on that a little bit, if you don't mind. mr. scalise: sure. they referred to people's plans that had good plans. they refer to many

something like the upton bill would fundamentally undercut this law with allowing healthy people to stay out of the pool. you will induce insurers to raise the rates in 2015 and undercut the law. the president needs to find a way, to address the people's concerns. >> e.j. dion, for those of us there, in 1983, 1984. watching president clinton fail to get any legislation brought to a vote in either the house chamber or in the senate. managed to get some forms through committee. but in the clinton bill, none of the people in question, that we are talking about tonight would have been allowed to keep their substandard insurance. >> it didn't work out so well. because of that because there were no warnings. you really have a choice this week of bad policy versus dangerous politics. because to disrupt the markets now, would just be to throw in the towel. that's why -- the upton bill is so clever. because the it sound very reasonable. but it would actually undercut the whole structure of obama care. but you can't let the democrats in vulnerable districts go out there without the cover of some fix that would he

the upton bill, as everybody knows, will skew the risk pool and encourage adverse selection. anybody who knows anything about insurance knows that if you have adverse selection, the prices for those who need insurance will go up very substantially while, yes, the prices for those who don't need insurance will go down. very sharply. and very frankly, if all of us knew we would never be in an automobile accident, we wouldn't have to have automobile insurance. except of course the law in almost every state requires us to have it. so that others will be protected as well. now, ladies and gentlemen, this bill is no secret. may i have 30 additional seconds? mr. waxman: i yield the gentleman an additional one minute. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. hoyer: this bill is offered by people who, according to their own rhetoric, want to repeal the affordable care act. that's a fair position. but now they are trying to do so with a trojan horse they call the upton bill. that in effect will fix what people are concerned about. the

bill puts a lot to be usedthe pool by veterans to pursue a traditional education at a a look institutionand you will go to college, or perhaps to an online for-profit school. what we have seen more and more is there were some for-profit schools that were headed toward -- predatory. no service after the sale and the dropout rate was huge. if they did manage to get their degree and went to find a job, there was no appreciation by the employee or about the degree. that was not a good thing for the vet. there were some congressional committees that went to try to figure out what went on. we sat down and said what we knew. we share matthew's concern that there are some institutions not doing a service for the veterans. you only have so many g.i. bill dollars. host: darius is up from maryland, a veteran. thank you for calling in. caller: good morning. i am and afghanistan veteran. in 2011.loyed i was still classified as a crew chief. i believe my skills are very talented. i have a stake clearance. i am akai clique inclined -- i am mechanically inclined. i still cannot get a job. i could not fi

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bill. you know what it does, it undermines the affordable care act. and it does so by disrupting the pool and expanding the market of people who can buy into these plans that people had grand fathered in. it's completely disruptive. i don't know how much republican support has. they are not one mind on the subject, either. we'll have a proposal for our members to vote on something on the floor tomorrow that addresses the problem, it is a fix, we don't have a likelihood of passage, we don't have a likelihood, we'll see what form it takes, we'll see what the rules committee allows us. we would love for them to give us an alternative. they aren't likely to do that. we'll exercise our parliamentary options tomorrow. think of a belt and suspenders. do any of you wear belts or suspenders? >> i wear a belt. [laughter] >> well, think of a belt and suspenders. what the president will put forth will be, one, and what we will do will be the other. but everything will be under control. after tomorrow afternoon. and then we just -- i have to remind that nobody was writing stories of how glorious it wa

that's why on this upton bill which as i said is -- not only does bad things to the affordable care act in terms of disrupting the risk pools, it tries to masquerade as something that does something positive which it does not. and that is why the upton bill is opposed by a broad coalition of groups of the the american heart association, the american diabetes association, the american cancer society, action network, national partnership for women and families. paralyzed veterans of america. anyone with a pre-existing -- 100 million people. families with people with pre-existing medical conditions, all of them benefit. the stories are so glorious and beautiful about what a difference the affordable care act has made to families. especially those with small children or those with pre-existing conditions. and to seniors. and again being a woman is no longer a pre-existing medical condition. so this is politics. it's not about policy. it isn't any attempt to improve the affordable care act. one way to improve it, though, is what we have in our previous question. give the state commissioners, state insurance commissioners, the au

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bill creating the xhapexchange. >> again, i'll stipulate. another thung we agree on. i think small business exchange is a good idea. it is sharing the risk pool. >> right. we had a supportive republican governor doing it and a democratic legislature and they compromised on this bill. and we moved right out of the gate. i think states are a great place to start. >> you know, to paraphrase senator booker this is about solutions. it is really about recognizing reality. it's about telling the truth. in fact, the fact of the maer is the american people have not been told the truth. let us atalk about costs. we were guaranteed if you pass this law, the costs for an average family plan would be reduce by $2500 per year. miss salt der a great job. i want to ask you because you have the exact experience. if you have health care plan and you add patient services, is that going to increase the cost or decrease it? >> if i have one now? >> yeah? >> it will increase. >> yeah. dr. hickey, if you add emergency hospital services to that, is that going to increase the cost or decrease it? >> they're automatically covered. >> again, if you -- in other words, i

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bill itself, it incorporates all sorts of republican ideas. a lot of the ideas in terms of the exchange, just being able to pool and improve the purchasing powerin the insurance market. that originated from the heritage foundation. >> don't let their hypocritical campaign to destroy obama care fool you, folks. the law has heritage foundation's fingerprints all over it. kasich is too busy bashing democrats to do the research. the governor loves the blame game. but if john kasich thinks his party isn't a player, he can keep on pretending. and the light comes on. it's our job to make sure that it does. using natural gas this power plant can produce enough energy for about 600,000 homes. generating electricity that's cleaner and reliable, with fewer emissions-- it matters. ♪ you can fill that box and pay one flat rate. how naughty was he? oh boy... [ male announcer ] fedex one rate. simple, flat rate shipping with the reliability of fedex. ♪ ♪ if i was a flower growing wild and free ♪ ♪ all i'd want is you to be my sweet honeybee ♪ ♪ and if was a tree growing tall and green ♪ ♪ all i'd want is you to shade me and be my leaves ♪ grown in america. p

pools of people. $400 million shelled out two dead retirees and another example of heating bills. his dead father's benefits were received for 26 years. and doug kelly, thank you so much. jon: martha: there is mounting pressure and maybe they should hit the pause button, some say on the health health care law. we have that next. ♪ ho ho ho [ female announcer ] at 100 calories, not all food choices add up. some are giant. some not so giant. when managing your weight, bigger is always better. ♪ ho ho ho ♪ green giant martha: so that's monday. we're off to a rolling start of the week. we'll see you later this afternoon. bill: just seeing if i get online at healthcare.gov. martha: how is that working for you? bill: where do you want to go? new jersey? martha: new jersey. bill: see what new jersey is looking for you. martha: big election. bill: it says get started. create an account. fabulous. martha: "happening now" starts right now. jenna: brand new stories and breaking news. jon: despite bill hemmer's success there are many new problems to tell you about with the obama healthcare ex

pool that needs to participate to be able to have the younger people participate. >> oh. >> that's the unfortunate act of it. >> you need them. >> there are parts of the bill that are. like myself benefitting from them. but they never cleared out the stray dogs and cats. >> stray dog and cat. all right. ari, you have panic-stricken democrats telling obama he has until friday or they will follow clinton and abandon. they know it will impact their legislation. election, not legislation. >> that was a president who is an eloquent communicator who lost his way. he w he was stumbling to find the right words. what's more amazing you will find videos which despite him saying that at the republican meeting he kept assuring the american people you can keep your insurance policy, no changes, period. this is the problem he's created. reminds me what happened with president bush with iraq. when republicans threatened president bush, we'll abandon you. raurk is such a burden on the party, we'll walk away. >> walked into the oval office at one point -- >> said a couple of months. fall of 2007. by then the surge started to work and general petraeus testified on the hill and it tu

the upton bill, as everybody knows, will skew the risk pool and encourage adverse selection. anybody who knows anything about insurance knows that if you have adverse selection, the prices for those who need insurance will go up very substantially while, yes, the prices for those who don't need insurance will go down. very sharply. and very frankly, if all of us knew we would never be in an automobile accident, we wouldn't have to have automobile insurance. except of course the law in almost every state requires us to have it. so that others will be protected as well. now, ladies and gentlemen, this bill is no secret. may i have 30 additional seconds? mr. waxman: i yield the gentleman an additional one minute. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. hoyer: this bill is offered by people who, according to their own rhetoric, want to repeal the affordable care act. that's a fair position. but now they are trying to do so with a trojan horse they call the upton bill. that in effect will fix what people are concerned about. the

is going to undo some of the risk pooling that you need to make these exchanges work in the first year. is this good policy, as someone who is an architect of this bill? >> yeah, thanks, chris. this is a really problematic policy for several reasons. and i actually just talked with one of the mayor insurers, who had canceled a good number of the policies that we're talking about. and they said, you know, the president is putting the responsibility on us. however, you know, you have to understand, even if we wanted to offer back those policies, we're encouraging the younger people, who might want to take these older policies that might have been cheaper, and we're taking them out of the pool of people, as you mentioned, for the health insurance marketplace. so it's problematic for some of those reasons. >> here's a statement from ahip, which is the kind of health insurance trade group. it says, changing the rules are after health plans have already met the requirements of the law could destabilize the market, result in higher premiums for consumers. it goes on to say that additional steps must be taken to stabilize the marketplace and mitigate the adv

bill. why doesn't president obama endorse it. >> let's back up. president clinton was talking specifically. he said he was talking about young people that were in the pool that were four times above the poverty line. we're only talking about the individual market here, and we're only talking about people who didn't -- who had their insurance after 2010. but the idea this is somehow or another that's broad base -- by the way the individual market is only 5% of the total. let's be careful what we're throwing around here. people get their health insurance cancelled all the time. you want to tell me that there were no health insurance cancellations before obama care? that's absurd. some of the things we're saying on here don't stand up to basic scrutiny. >> i think, james, it's wonderful 30 million people will be covered with insurance but the way it was done is so horrific because it's forcing every one of those people basically on to two programs either medicare or forcing them into the private insurance system. it will increase the cost. the other great mistruth, obama said everybody would get a $2,000 reduction in premium on average. the premiums are go

decision years ago to stay out of the managed health care pool and, honestly we've lost patients because of that but nine times out of 10, billo us horrified at the level of care they received. bill: what did you then think of the so-called, fix of last week? >> not really a fix. it is just, you know, delaying the disaster for a year, for a few and really just creating an administrative nightmare for insurance companies. bill: what happens for those companies now? you've got some experience in that. >> what happens with the insurance companies? bill: yeah. >> well, i'm not sure. i would assume they're going to be raising our rates because of all of the extra work they're going to be having to do, cutting benefits possibly. that ask what we've seen in my profession. bill: that is like an administrative nightmare then? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> and when you heard the president's words of last week, what did you think? >> well, just because the president says it is so doesn't make it so and i think we've learned that lesson the hard way. you know, i, am just sort of sitting back to see how all of this unfolds. you know, i th

pool their resources and offer insurance together. we call that small business plans. all of these steps, by the way, are in legislative form. they're bills we have introduced. they're steps we could take today if we had enough votes to pass turning the train around and heading it in a different direction. buy insurance across state lines. if americans could look on the internet and buy insurance across state lines that suited their needs, made those choices, perhaps more americans could afford insurance. and isn't that what we want to do? change the 30-hour work week to 40 hours. both democrats and republicans support this idea. i'm not sure where it ever came from but it's one of the worst features of obamacare. it says -- it creates a big incentive to cause businesses to reduce the number of working hours from 40 to 30 so their employees will be part time and want affected -- and the business won't be affected by the obamacare rule. well, that creates consternation within the business. it doesn't create good relations between the employer and the employee. but think about the employee. think about the pay cut from 40 hours to 30 hours.