um, bill, just mp, bill rammell. a lot of engagements now that that will not be undertaken by the princess. she says she wants to catch up with them in three months or so, but it really does show the work that the working royals put in for so many different elements of civic and pubuc different elements of civic and public life. >> absolutely . and that's to be >> absolutely. and that's to be commended. i mean , when i was commended. i mean, when i was vice chancellor of the university of bedfordshire , university of bedfordshire, after was mp and minister, after i was an mp and minister, um, both she and william visited um, both she and william visited um, a local health care centre that we were associated with. and what really stood out for me was her real interest in the people that she was meeting and to talking as she went round. so yes, it is a heavy workload and i think they're committed to it. um, hopefully she will, you know, re fulfil the engagements. i think there's probably going to have to be some, uh, el

uh, bill rammell , how is that uh, bill rammell, how is that going to change the way we do politics? of ai and other forms of distortion within electoral process. within the electoral process. and we need some joined and we need some serious joined up thinking of how to tackle that. there are a serious of elections with really serious implications. i think modi in india will probably be re—elected for a third time, and i think that's got big significance for geopolitics. this is one area where we disagree. i actually think trump will narrowly lose joe biden in the coming election. most importantly, because enough independents and centre ground people will not back him. >> do we have time for one last story? >> shall we sneak one through? >> shall we sneak one through? >> i think we could sneak one in now. no, we don't, sadly. we'll leave. well, we'll leave on that note. we'll have to. >> we'll have to get to this story. it's a reason to tune in tomorrow. >> it is indeed. thank you very much, bill rammell and james price. we've got. price. that's all we've got. time we'll see you time

i'm now also joined by former labour defence minister bill rammell. bill, welcome to the show.sense of trepidation, perhaps even the historical legacy of former wars in the middle east. what's your feeling? donald trump waiting today ? they saying we're heading today? they saying we're heading towards world war iii. >> we cannot be heading towards world war iii because we're talking about states that have potentially got nuclear weapons. >> and that would bring a nuclear conflict, which would be the end of humanity. >> and the fact that trump is saying verge of saying we're on the verge of world war think world war iii, i think demonstrates how much dangerous, more dangerous the world would be he returned to the white house. >> but the situation in is really concerning . the really concerning. the escalation , uh, with iranian escalation, uh, with iranian backed militias attacking american troops in jordan and whether they were iranian backed militias or or directed militias is an important one at the moment. i think they were backed, which means that it wasn't a deliberate ira

bill rammell bill, thank you very much for coming in.ed um, migration clearly is a bigger concern to voters than westminster politicians have been willing to accept for a long time. i don't think that's the case. >> if you look at the trend of polls, yes, it's an important issue. but the biggest issues are the national health service and the economy. and that's why i and i take nothing for granted . and, you know, a year is a long time in politics, a very long time in politics, a very long time. but i think it's looking likely that there's going to be a labour government, andifs going to be a labour government, and it's looking likely it's going to be one large going to be one with a large majority. and think majority. and i think conservative are are conservative mps are are misleading themselves. if they think just think this is just about migration. the government's migration. yes the government's got an appalling record on migration, 745,000 net migration three and a half times the figure it was under the last labour government. but

bill rammell. uh, bill. okay. they're they're thinking of changing leader.l? should they be doing this ? they be doing this? >> look, rishi sunak is a lamentable prime minister, but if the tories think that replacing him will save their fortunes, i think they're delusional. you know, it's 14 years of tory rule that is the problem. it's the highest tax burden since the second world war. whilst public services have been cut to the bone . it's been cut to the bone. it's immigration out of control. it's the basement in public standards. it's liz truss who did more damage to the economy in 49 days than many prime ministers have done in decades . ministers have done in decades. you know, those are the real issues. why the tories are being rejected. it's not about rishi sunak, although he bears responsibility for. >> all right. well, let me come to henry henry , you're the to henry henry, you're the deputy editor of conservative home. uh, what's your thoughts? is no tory leader, prospective tory leader wants take office how. >> now. >> essentially , is the problem.

. >> rammell told us that he >> bill rammell told us that he thought october the thought it would be, it's right . thought it would be october the 22nd, it's right. similar 22nd, but it's right. similar landing that sort of landing ground. that sort of time of the year barely contain my excitement to find out whether it is october the 20th 2nd or november the 7th, but it does neither of those dates. we've long election we've got a long, long election campaign because of course, we've heard speeches from the reform party, from the lib dems, from labour party. and as from the labour party. and as we're currently the we're currently talking, the prime speaking as prime minister is speaking as well. we're getting well. that's where we're getting this news from. so all four major are talking now major parties are talking now about running that election campaign. and it's going to be a long old slog. >> i wonder if it's going to be a vicious campaign. i imagine it will be. it's the first general election campaign that we've had about year to that about a year run up to that since 2015, 201