i'm bill rogers. my first question do all of these reference prices include the professional or physicians payment and how do you decide what to do in subsequent years. >> the answer to the first one is yes. you talked about bundles payment being part of this. >> i think in the example, that's one not all reference prices. that's something you need to distinguish, but if you as this evolves and as reference pricing gets paired with a bundled payment then yes, you'll see them be bundles today and paired together. >> you look at physician reimbursement across the state, down to anthem's, there is variation minor and in some cases, if there is special expertise but the degree of variation is a fraction of what it is for facility. how do you go from year to year. can you ratchet it down further? >> from kroger's perspective, services that we target priced in '12, we did look at the cost data for 2013. we decided to leave the target price where it is and it's around $800 for one of those high-tech imaging

that's more darwish going also told us about another well known baroni pro-democracy activist now bill roger he was arrested in june last year over his twitter based campaign against the gulf nations ruling monarchy. kiesel cannot believe a job is very obvious of how they're behaving i thought i just read human rights defender they don't want anyone to step forward and talk about what people are suffering or to juanita are at these violations they want everyone to keep quiet and accept what it does and any rigi in interesting security option on the political option and they are stopping those who are teaching people or making people aware of their rights or speak about them. just about how from no to our top story you crazy you wavering in the russian president's comments this german news conference interested italy but in a putin that rebuffed criticism of moscow over putting any kind of pressure on care let's take a listen. if we keep our free trade with kiev and this deal comes through we have every reason to believe that goods from the e.u. will go directly into the russian market but vi

i'm bill rogers. confident in the statement that there's no such thing as a stupid question, my first question is do all of these reference prices include the professional or physician's payment, and then my second question is how do you all decide what to do in subsequent years with your reference price? >> two good questions. >> well, the answer to the first one is, yes. it was the total claims, institutional and professional, that were included in the calculation. >> and andrea, you talked about bundled payment being a part of this calculation. >> right. so i think, um, i think in the calpers example that that's one not all reference pricing programs include both. so that's something you need to distinguish. but if you, as this evolves and as reference pricing gets paired with a bundle payment, then, yes, you'll see them be bundled together and paired together. >> so if i could just make one additional comment which, when you look at physician reimbursement across the state -- and i'm referring now

they want this bill. >> roger, that was going to be my point. have something that makes sense on every level that is logical and it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to get passed. we've seen things in the past. corporate overhaul seemed like a slam dunk. do you think it's enough for business to put pressure on them? >> first i think the house will pass this. it's a question of when. there's all kinds of political arguments as to whether it's better from a 2014 point of view, elections in 2014, to pass it now early before the elections or pass it closer to the elections. i'm not smart flusnuf enough to this out. >> you think this leader slip will bring it to a vote? >> i think this leadership will bring it to a vote. after all, everybody knows what happened in terms of the hispanic vote in 2012. you can see election results along the way that make clear the republican party is in a difficult position with the fastest growing sector. they know that and know they have to remedy that. they also don't want to be split from business. there's a real

bill clinton. it's happened when roger clinton, billy carter's brother -- >> bill clinton's brother? >> right. >> billy carter was jimmy carter's brother. >> we love it. newt had a gay daughter. rob porter had a gay son and came out and changed his position. >> let's be clear. the democrats have a platform that's pro-gay marriage. there's a democrat governor candidate in south carolina who is not for that. we don't even know his name. people don't report on him. >> he's a candidate for governor. he's not -- the vice president of the united states -- the cheney family is a bit like the kennedys to the sense to the republicans, i think, they're a hugely important family. to families in the republican p party gay marriage -- >> you had your own brush with this? >> with gay marriage? >> not gay marriage. being gay. >> i had a brush with being gay? i actually am gay. >> you actually are gay. you are proudly gay. you are briefly a spokesperson for mitt romney's campaign last year. you decided to leave. there was a lot of pressure from the right side of your party. as somebody who lived thr

bill: sanctions in iran have been cranked up and mike rogers said we are close to getting to the elite who live in iran. so why take the heat off now. but you make the case the sanctions have not slowed down the nuclear program. >> the director of national up tell jones testified to that. the ayatollahs who run iran. the generals of the revolutionary guard corps are not american consumers who think if they can't debt a double mocha latte at starbucks they will agree to anything. iran came to the table to get relief in the sanctions. bill: dew agree with rogers that we were get together elite in the population and the pressure is getting tighter? >> no, i don't. if you are trying to build a nuclear weapon and somebody is kick you in the knee every minute wouldn't you want them to stop kick you in the knee? iran had two objectives. continuing its nuclear weapons, and getting relief on sanctions. bill: what's the next step in this? >> i think iran has seen they can drive a wedge between europe and the united states on the sanctions. european countries already engaged in discussions with i

isn't all tax exempt but head office operations -- such as comissioner roger goodell's $29.4 million salary -- are exempt. a new bill introduced this week would change that by revoking the league's 501-c 6 status. a change dot org petition has received more than 260-thousand signatures supporting the move. league lawyers say critics of the nonprofit status are "misguided" steve job's legacy is "parked" in history. the garage where he and steve wozniak started apple has been named an historic site. the silicon valley structure built in 19-62 is where steve jobs grew up. it's owned by the jobs trust. the "jobs" garage is only 10 miles from the gargage where hewlett- packard got its start. it was granted landmark status in 2007. india launches an unmanned mission to mars today. the $73.5 million project is the nation's first interplanetary probe. if successful, the orbiter will reach mars in september of 2014. still to come... from humble beginnings to a sought after stock.... we track one of the fashion world's most sucessful ipos. plus...would you buy twitter stock on day one? you might want to hear our upcoming repo

an awful lot to ask barb mikulski and richard shelby and hal rogers and nita lowey and our wonderful subcommittees to be able to produce a bill. so we'll do it if we have to but we would prefer sooner rather than later. we feel so strongly about it that my house counterpart, congressman hal rogers, a distinguished gentleman from kentucky -- and i say "gentleman" in the true sense of the word -- civil, candid, straightforward, courteous. we've talked about issues. there are differences in fiscal approach and so on, but we know how to get the job done. where we differ, we know how to resolve the conflicts and we're ready to go. we have issues -- we have sent a letter to the chair of the budget committee on both sides, to senator murray and to paul ryan, asking that they report to the congress before the thanksgiving recess. before the thanksgiving recess. this was unprecedented. now, we didn't talk about dollars. that's the budget committee. we will take our pot of discretionary money called the top line and get it done. what both the house chairman and i are really worried about is that if we don't act, sequester kicks in janu

ago so now he's got something else in common with bill clinton who's been vegan for more than three years. >>> washington congressman kathy mcmorris rogers record this week becoming the first woman to give birth three times while serving in congress. brynn was born sunday, joining her brother and sister. mom is planning to run for a sixth term next year. >>> and a new study indicates having daughters makes parents more likely to be republicans. the authors say parents of daughters tend to prefer more socially conservative policies attracting them to the gop. >>> that wraps up this hour of "jansing & co." i'm chris jansing. thomas roberts is up next. >> that's an interesting breakdown right there. i think that's fascinating, chris. you have a great holiday, safe travels. >> thank you. >>> good morning. the agenda next hour, wild winter weather slamming much of the country and threatening travel for millions of americans. we'll tell you what you need to know before you hop on a plane, train or jump isn't an automobile and hit the roads. >>> and chilling new details bts young man behind the sandy hook massacre. we'll talk about what this me

bill. so i'm hopeful -- and i know mr. rogers and is and senator mikulski, chairs of the appropriations committee, hoped they'd get a number early on. that's why the 22nd would have been a preferable date so that is a day we can mark bills. obviously if there is no agreement on the 302-a, as the gentleman knows, very difficult to try to bring those bills together in a conference because they're so far apart. so i'm very hopeful that the majority leader will use his good offices to urge resolution of the budget conference differences and a report out as soon as possible so that we can get to that process. the gentleman, i'm sure, shares my view that the shutting down of government is extraordinarily disruptive, both to the general public and to those who work for the federal government. so that it would be incumbent upon us, i think, to try to get out of this gridlock on the budget process that we've been in. so i would urge him to exercise whatever -- and he has substantial influence to try to get us to a resolution of this issue

rogers will be here. robin wright and editor of the weekly standard bill kristol. >> can i say one thing? when all the reporters do live shots -- >>> forecast. mika wants her forecast. here, mika, i got it for you. as we go throughout the day today into the thanksgiving holiday, this huge storm out west that killed at least a dozen people is going to affect everyone on the eastern seaboard. right now the worst of it is in the dallas/ft. worth area. they've dealt with frozen precipitation, sleet, freezing rain overnight. that continues this morning. that's going to push into arkansas was we go throughout your morning commute. for today your southern travel trouble. heavy rain will develop in louisiana pushing into mississippi later today. maybe a little wintry mix there areas of tn tennessee and arkansas. then on tuesday the storm moves over the top of georgia. drawing up a ton of moisture off the atlantic. a lot of heavy rain up i-95. late in the day up into new england. then as we get into wednesday, the busy travel day, snow on the backside. likely buffalo, syracuse, rochester, pittsbur

bills. i was encouraged to read the letter sent yesterday by chairman rogers, making clear how important it is for conferees to send us a budget by thanksgiving. that would be this friday. we are not going to be here next week. rather than risk another painful government shut down and the continuation of the irrational year --r this coming many republicans now agree with democrats that the sequester is unworkable. hesaid so, mr. ryan says doesn't like the sequester, mr. cantor says he doesn't like the sequester and hal rogers has said it is unworkable and inadvisable. mustudget conference rearrange the sequester's severe cuts. this is an opportunity for to replace the sequester with a sensible approach that allows congress to look at our budget priorities and long-term goals. if we do so, it will be the most important stimulus of our economy that this congress could take. mr. speaker, i hope that chairman ryan will set his -- aside and embrace the approach that his colleagues are recognizing is the only realistic path toward a compromise by this committee. to do so could usher in a historic

bill. so i'm hopeful -- and i know mr. rogers and is and senator mikulski, chairs of the appropriations committee, hoped they'd get a number early on. that's why the 22nd would have been a preferable date so that is a day we can mark bills. obviously if there is no agreement on the 302-a, as the gentleman knows, very difficult to try to bring those bills together in a conference because they're so far apart. so i'm very hopeful that the majority leader will use his good offices to urge resolution of the budget conference differences and a report out as soon as possible so that we can get to that process. the gentleman, i'm sure, shares my view that the shutting down of government is extraordinarily disruptive, both to the general public and to those who work for the federal government. so that it would be incumbent upon us, i think, to try to get out of this gridlock on the budget process that we've been in. so i would urge him to exercise whatever -- and he has substantial influence to try to get us to a resolution of this issue

bill, i don't much want you anymore because you talk over people. but while you have juan williams on, you constantly shout him down. you know, the volume on your set must be faulty, roger juan and i debate, strongly, there is no shouting, wise up. and california, mary catherine is right, saying that president obama lied, you are spinning. i see it differently, matthew, i could be wrong, intention to mislead is at the heart of a lie. right now as we said in talking points, we have deception, no doubt. everybody has to make up their own mind here. heather oliver, australia, bill, if you're uncomfortable calling president obama a liar, you can always call him a perpetrator in exactitudes, got to love old winston. and bill, you pointed out the decline on the median income with president obama, but neglected to say that income has been on the decline since 1999. expected that from the right wing website, nice of you to pass it along. the median income was flat this country, to the analysis was correct. he didn't mention benghazi in the third debate and didn't campaign well in the final week. from new hampshire, it was the media who ensured that mitt romney would not get tra

. >> bill, is it possible that incognito will play in the nfl again or get a job bouncing at captain hairless? >> can he do both? >> i don't think so. >> i personally think he looks like roger clemens if roger clemens ate the rest of the yankees. i think he will play in the nfl again. i haven't changed my hind that he is a complete jerk. i definitely changed my mind he will play again. not only will he be back in the nfl, he may go back to the dolphins. if what we are finding out about the coaches are true and more and more of his teammates come out and say he was an honorary black man which they have been saying and absolving him of this and trashing the other guy this is going opposite of the way i thought. i see him coming back. >> i see him going to anger management and then play next year. >> you know what i think? not much. do you have a comment? e-mail us. do you have video of your animal doing something? click on submit a video. we may use it. coming up, a ban on dancing? yeah, something like that. s . >>> 78 coming up tomorrow return uh pirnses from lori rothman and anthony cumia. >> e block. last story. that's the last story. >> a high school principal in vermont,

bills and clippings from really old newspapers and magazines. she's kept this one since 1981. >> magnum p.i. was big back then. >> reporter: we asked hoarder home buyer rogerur nancy's neighborhood, look at photos of the worst of her hoarding and do the numbers. >> the full value of this is $500,000. but without getting inside, i'm gonna have to do a gutshot and say $350,000. >> and the worst part about it is you feel so badly for the homeowner because you know they are never going to get as much money out of that home as if they could possibly clean up. >> reporter: nancy says her home is not for sale, though the choice isn't all hers. inspector johnson could nail a red tag on her door right now, and she'd have 30 days to move out or sell. but that's not his style. >> writing a ticket, red-tagging a house, kicking them out of their own house, that's not success. >> i'll state it over and over. we really, really need you to pick up the pace. >> reporter: he charms, cajoles, and warns nancy he'll be back in a month expecting the combustible clutter to be gone. >> nancy has been a very tough case. >> reporter: in nancy's case counselling, and inspector johns

bills. i was encouraged to read the letter sent yesterday, as i said, by chairman rogers and the appropriations subcommittee chairs, making clear how important it is for conferees to send us a budget by thanksgiving -- by thanksgiving. that would be this friday because we're not going to be here next week. rather than risk another painful government shutdown and the continuation of the irrational sequester this coming year. many republicans now agree with democrats that the sequester is unworkable. who said so? mr. ryan says he doesn't like the sequester. mr. cantor, the majority leader, says he doesn't like the sequester. and hal rogers says it's an rkable and this is opportunity to replace the sequester with a sensible approach that permits congress to look stratidgically at our budget priorities -- strategically at our budget priorities and long-term fiscal goal. if we do so it will the most important stimulus of our economy, job-creating action that this congress could take. mr. speaker, i hope that chairman ryan will set his flawed budget aside and instead embrace the approach that many of

remarkable perhaps only bill clinton knew it at the time, a handshake he says really sparked his life of public service and will go on of course to be a central politician, a young roger williams would be a tea party conservative but shaking president kennedy's hand and hearing him talk helped shape his political destiny. dana bash reports. >> reporter: roger williams was a 14-year-old boy in latin class when he learned john kennedy was assassinated. >> the president of the united states is dead. >> principal came into our class and whispered something in mr. hennings ear and put his head on his desk and started crying. >> one word to describe the picture here, that's grief. >> reporter: it was a scene students experienced all across the country but for williams, it was different. he had just met the president that morning. >> i couldn't fathom it, frankly, because i just seen him an hour ago. >> reporter: his dad was a car dealer in fort worth texas where the president started out. his dad told the local congressman he would supply carps on one condition. >> he said the only thing i ask for congressman, is that my wife and my son can meet the president. >> reporter:

bill, i don't much want you anymore because you talk over people. but while you have juan williams on, you constantly shout him down. you know, the volume on your set must be faulty, rogerly, there is no shouting, wise up. and california, mary catherine is right, saying that president obama lied, you are spinning. i see it differently, matthew, i could be wrong, intention to mislead is at the heart of a lie. right now as we said in talking points, we have deception, no doubt. everybody has to make up their own mind here. heather oliver, australia, bill, if you're uncomfortable calling president obama a liar, you can always call him a perpetrator in exactitudes, got to love old winston. and bill, you pointed out the decline on the median income with president obama, but neglected to say that income has been on the decline since 1999. expected that from the right wing website, nice of you to pass it along. the median income was flat this country, to the analysis was correct. he didn't mention benghazi in the third debate and didn't campaign well in the final week. from new hampshire, it was the media who ensured that mitt romney would not get traction on benghazi. the gov

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house committee chair rogers says cyber security concerns are so serious the site should be taken off-line until the administration can promise personal information will be saved. bill: now get back online. thank you, peter doocy. martha: number of obamacare enrollees is reportedly very low and somewhat a mystery as to how many of them are actually out there. open enrollment started october 1, so little over a full month now. he white house has not released any hard numbers on it. they say it will come in the middle of november. according to documents released by the oversight committee, only six people signed up on day one. the next day it went up to 2.48 people. most of those people who signed up were not paying at all, they were enrolling in medicaid by huge numbers in terms of how out of whack that part of this is. stuart varney joins me now. stuart, these are nowhere near the numbers we heard were needed to make this solvent. stuart: that is precisely right, martha. you need the biggest pool possible with as much money as possible. that is why under obamacare everybody's got to have insurance, they want your money. if young, healthy people don't pay into this s

rogers are among the appropriators pushing for -- wishing very hard for a top line agreement on the overall discretionary spending number by early december. their hope is to write a big omnibus spending bill for the if entire federal -- for the entire federal government, rather than a stopgap resolution which appropriators hate to do, bouncing month a month, threatening to shut down. they are not able to set priorities legislatively. the hope is they reach a deal on the overall spending level. if they do, it will make their jobs easier. >> when mitch mcconnell came over to speak to the house republicans tuesday, what did they hear specifically about the budget negotiations? >> he said that we should stick to the budget control act levels. meaning in the new fiscal year, after january 15, when the new round of sequestration takes effect, it would lessen the overall federal spending to $967 billion. he really wants to stick to that number. the issue, though, is those sequestration cuts come from mainly defense programs. there is a $21 billion hit to defense programs. a lot of republican defense hawks are very concerned about that and told mcconnell that directly in the closed-door session.

hal rogers, are among those pushing very hard to get a top line agreement on the overall discretionary spending number by early december. they're hoping that they can write a big omnibus spending bill for the entire federal government rather than a straight line stopgap continuing resolution which appropriators hate to do, when you bounce from month to month and threat ton shut down. they're not able to set their priorities legislatively. the hope is that they could reach a deal on the overall spending level and if they do it will make their job easier. host: when senate republican leader mitch mcconnel came over to speak to republicans on tuesday, what did they hear about the negotiations? what did he tell them? guest: he said the party should stick to the budget control act levels, meaning in the new fiscal year, after january 15, when the new round of sequestration takes effect, it would drop -- it would lessen overall federal spending to $957 billion. he really wants to stick to that number. the issue ha though that those cuts, those sequestration cuts, come from defense programs. there was a $21 billion hit to defense programs. a lot of republican defense hawks are very concer