for more on the path forward for real estate i'm joined by ceo of rudin management, bill rudin >> hi,hank you for having me on. >> must be a very anxious teem for you. >> it's been -- yes. it's been very interesting but it's just -- you know, you mentioned the state, new york state starting to reopen the governor is slowly opening the door he's done an amazing job in communicatinger a communicating and making sure we get through this very difficult time and we have been working on all levels of government trying to be as helpful as we can to make sure when new york city opens the cust mores and the tenants are safe and they feel comfortable coming back to the work environment. >> we'll talk about the technology in particular that you and others are using but i want to talk big picture for a moment nielsen said and this is in "the new york times" the other day even after coronavirus their 3,000 workers in the city can work from home most of the week and manhattan faces a reckoning if working from home is the norm even yesterday the ceo of scott's miracle gro said he used to commute eve