he, throughout the 1990s, the legislature and the state continuously had to respond to what bill sizemore was proposing. sizemore became very effective because he turned the initiative process into a business. is so that way he could, in essence, make money while putting initiatives on the ballot. and so when you get to the 1990s and the first part of this millenium, then you see, you know, one initiative after the other on the ballot that bill sizemore was able to get onto the ballot. so he was the most important sort of player in initiative politics and i'd say the most important sort of conservative populist. each though he wasn't elected governor, even though he didn't serve in the legislature, the fact he was able to put initiatives on the ballot meant that his opinion, his ideas had to be listened to. sometimes we -- actually, when we wrote this book, at one point we discussed having instead of the scene being the progressives versus conservative populists, we actually thought the scene might be the initiative process. because 15-20 years it was such a big deal, such a big part of t