. >> bill starns, the son of sherman moore's victim, remembers the night of the murder as if it werebor called me and told me there was some activity at the home. and that i might better get up there. >> as she reached for the telephone, as she reached for the telephone, and my first impression was that she was calling for the police and i immediately panicked. i grabbed the telephone cord and my first instinct was really to put the telephone cord around her neck and choke her but i don't. i put my hands around her neck and i choke her. i can't control myself. i ended up strangling her and stomping her with my fists and feet. >> he beat her to death with his hands and feet. >> until i know it, i hear a wheezing sound and i said, lord, i killed her. she's not breathing. so i rushed up out of the house, grabbed the pocketbook, i get the pocketbook and i leave. >> i could not find the car keys or her purse. >> i go to the bank and i go through the drive-thru in my own car. i go through the drive-thru window and write a check out for something like $150. >> sherman ray moore was at the b

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