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chris stirewalt was there, bill stepian's lawyer, and finally from people involved in accounting, includingphiladelphia and georgia, although the georgia u.s. attorney was fired by president trump. >> bill: i think liz cheney put a fine point on it. very different from what we saw last thursday evening with the amount of video and et cetera on january 6th. they will move to another hearing on wednesday. again, 10:00 eastern time, more material. >> dana: please stay tuned to fox news channel and this fox station for continuing coverage of this story. i'm dana perino. >> bill: and i'm bill hemmer. thanks for joining us here in new york. >> dana: we want to bring back our panel. martha maccallum, jonathan turley, marie harf, and andy mccarthy. really great they were all here with us to witness this hearing today. thank you so much. my thought, as they wrapped up they said one of the things they were looking at was a fund-raising effort taking place in the know of all of this. $250 million is what the inspector at the justice department said was raised during this effort. i will also be somethi

no, you can't dismiss bill stepian as a hack, he was campaign manager and you can't dismiss ivanka as a anti-trump hack, she's his daughter. and the voices that are being used and yes, they are delayed and they should have spoken up in realtime but this is now on the record for history and perhaps for the justice department, the january 6 house committee second public hearing included new testimony from president trump's inner circle. key witnesses describing how the former president refused to listen to the facts ignoring top aides who said he was told claims of election fraud were not true and that he had lost. instead, they painted a picture of how trump embraced false claims that that election was stolen. all of this leading up to the january 6 attack on the capitol. here is former attorney general bill barr and former acting deputy attorney general richard donahue. >> there was an avalanche of allegations of fraud that built up a number of days and it was like playing whack-a-mole, one thing would be one day and the next day would be another issue. i told this stuff that he was s

. >> reporter: president trump's 2020 campaign manager, bill stepian, is among those scheduled to testify as the panel focuses today's hearing on mr. trump's efforts to spread unsubstantiated claims of election fraud. and the former president has denied all wrongdoing. worth noting, no president or ex-president has ever been indicted. anne-marie? >> nick calloway in new york. thank you. >>> and you can watch the hearing live beginning at 10:00 a.m. eastern time on cbs news and the cbs news streaming network. >>> after weeks of negotiations following recent mass shootings, a bipartisan group of 20 senators announced a breakthrough deal for new gun legislation. the proposal expands background checks for firearms buyers under 21. it provides incentives for states to pass so-called red flag laws which make it easier to temporarily take guns from people considered potentially violent. it also boosts mental health resources and provides funding for school safety resources. president biden tweeted it does not do everything that i think is needed, but it reflects important steps in the right dire

what we've seen on videotape testimony from bill barr, from jason miller, from ivanka trump, from bill stepian that in and of itself, just hearing from cipollone, whether it's videotape or if he comes forth, which i wouldn't expect him to do and i'm sure if he was your client, you would advise him not to do so. what he's provided so far, i'm pretty sure -- i don't know. >> here's my question. if he is a man of integrity, i certainly take your word on it. why not do it? >> that's what i was going to say. it's my question to you. >> yeah. i feel as if there is so much pressure on this hearing that i imagine there's a lot of different factors going into it. but about the same time, there shouldn't be, right? as we talked about, a first draft of history, a question of truth, that is the pitch the committee is trying to do with him. wins one thing about election workers, though? if you are looking at that and saying how does someone like shaye sign up again? that's actually the point of that harassment. it's not only about right now, it's about the future and about making it -- putting up higher an

. >> first, jason miller and bill stepian back and forth worked for rudy giuliani in his presidential campaign. >> where, by the way, we met. >> you met in '08? >> we miet in '06. >> they both knew rudy for a long time and they would be an excellent judge of whether he was intoxicated. for all the time i worked for rudy, he was not a big drinker. rudy's pushback was his drink was a diet pepsi. but it's clear there's some self-medication problems going on, at least according to people who are witnesses who knew him over the course of his career. these people liked and admired him enough to work for him at one time. >> i think it's hard for somebody who is as loyal as john avila was for so long to have to give such an honest and unvarnished commentary. >> do you think there's something going on? >> rudy giuliani, who i worked for, said to be locked into partisan politics doesn't permit you to think clearly. >> that was very eloquent. >> there you go. >> very diplomatic of you. thank you both. 2006, huh? >> how about that. >> we'll have to talk about that. >>> the january 6th committee n

taking center stage is bill stepian, the former trump campaign manager. source tells me he has spoken with the committee previously. he will be testifying today under subpoena. and it will be a big deal if he comes out and does say that president trump -- former president trump lost the election and that te knew it. that he was advised of that. we don't know exactly if he's going to come out and say that, if he's going to be cooperative. one source telling me he's not necessarily going to be a friendly witness. he is advising, this is interesting context, he is advising a candidate running against liz cheney who was endorsed by trump. that just gives you a little context there. again, he was the former trump campaign manager so he was behind the scenes during those key meetings after the election where they were looking at the data and seeing the writing on the wall that trump lost the election and advisers were telling trump this. he'll be paired with chris s stirewalt called arizona and fired. that's going to show that pairing is going to show how the l

. >> yeah, and you mentioned bill stepian, he was the 2020 campaign leader.he guys that said that trump faced this tough bid for re-election. and he tells cnn he is appearing under subpoena so the committee appears to be continuing the tactic of using the words of trump's inner circle against him. >> yes, and the question is how close to the inner circle they'll get. we did hear from ivanka trump during the first day of testimony. we may hear something from mark meadows. he cooperated through providing emails but didn't give his testimony. knowing what trump was thinking as this was happening in real time is so enormously important, both for the congressional and potentially criminal investigation. you know, the closer you can get to the inner circle, the more important it is. you know, stepien, the former campaign manager, he was close at one time. one of the things we'll all be looking for is how close was he to the trump inner circle on january 6th. that's something i don't know. but we will find out when he testifies. >> that's right. i have to ask you ab

amna: among those voices, bill stepian, former trump campaign manager.t of testifying in person just this morning after his wife went into labor. he told the committee in previous interviews that he warned trump multiple times, including on election night, results could take a while. >> my recommendation was to say that the votes are still being counted. it's too early to tell, too early to call the race. amna: the committee says trump ignored stepian and instead listened to rudy giuliani. >> you will also hear testimony that president trump rejected the advice of his campaign experts on election night and instead followed the course recommended by an apparently amna: here is trump attorney jason miller, describing giuliani that night. >> the mayor was definitely toxicated, but i did not know the level of intoxication when he spoke with the president, for example. amna: adding to the committee's elecon night narrative, former fox political editor, chris stirewalt. he was overseeing the conservative network's election night coverage, including when they a

. >> bill: the testimony of former trump campaign manager bill stepian is key because of a family emergency committee wants to probe precisely what was being told the president about the election results. now they need to settle from second best his lawyer. they will play some video clips as a rebuttal from depositions the panel is pushing for potential prosecution of former president trump. >> i suppose our entire investigation is a referral of crimes both to the department of justice and to the american people because this is a massive assault on our -- on the machinery of american democracy. >> the committee says there was no path for the president to win and mr. trump knew that. democrats want to know more about gop members who requested pardons from former president trump after the riot. >> the committee has evidence that several members of congress did seek a pardon. you have representative perry refusing to comply with the bipartisan investigation into events of january 6. i believe that the committee would never make an allegation so serious without very substantial evidence to pres

the key lead off witness, bill stepian, donald trump's 2020 campaign manager, will not be appearing to testify in person today. alerting the committee after his wife went into labor. sources tell nbc the committee now plans to show video from stepian's recorded deposition to try to establish key facts about today's theme, the big lie, that donald trump knew he lost election, but continued anyway to rally his supporters around the false claim that he had won. >> we're also moments away from the supreme court releasing new decisions possibly on the key mississippi abortion case. we'll bring you any of the big cases as we learn about them. let's start with today's hearing because this missing stepian throws a wrench into the committee's plans after laying out how this would play out during the first prime time hearing last week. >> indeed, it does. because as we've seen before, in-person testimony is so much more powerful even than the clips they showed of ivanka trump, for instance, on thursday night as we were showing on friday in the hearings. so the appearance in person would have bee