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>> i'm bill thomas and i am a neighbor. that's exactly it. we like rachel, we like the cafe. we are not trying to close the cafe. just that she has a permit that she's not in compliance with it. i propose that you issue a new permit. it's not even clear what we are talking about issuing in terms of the good neighbor policy, multiple days. are we talking about going until 10:00 on wednesdays, thursdays? it's unclear. i don't know who was the woman who last friday, i felt for her. i walked by the cafe. every window was shut. it was steamed up like a sweat box. that was in winter. i'm not sure how this is going to work for the summer. before there is this war on fun, it's has to be accommodation and much of it has to do with the band she selects. that's my comment. >> any additional public comment? c'mon up. state your name and your statement. >> hi, ronnie johnson i have been in the community for 20 years. native californians. i have been here for a while and watched rachel's cafe as it
>> i'm bill thomas and i am a neighbor. that's exactly it. we like rachel, we like the cafe. we are not trying to close the cafe. just that she has a permit that she's not in compliance with it. i propose that you issue a new permit. it's not even clear what we are talking about issuing in terms of the good neighbor policy, multiple days. are we talking about going until 10:00 on wednesdays, thursdays? it's unclear. i don't know who was the woman who last friday, i felt for her. i walked...
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truly meant to kill herself when writing the notes, investigators sent them to fingerprint expert bill thomasmination. thomas sprayed the notes with ninhydrin, a chemical which reacts with the amino acid in perspiration. >> we placed those letters and envelopes into a humidifying chamber, and under those conditions, thealate -- latent prints will actually develop, pretty much like a photograph on photograph paper. >> the ninhydrin revealed that dorothy wasn't perspiring excessively when she wrote the notes, something that usually occurs when someone intends to end their own life. >> and told him that they needed to take another look at this case, because something was wrong. >> but perhaps the most definitive proof would come from the envelope flaps. who had licked them, dorothy or chris? frozen yogurt franchise. and now you have 42 locations. the more i put into my business the more i get out of it. like 5x your rewards when you make select business purchases with your ink plus card from chase. and with ink, i choose how to redeem my points for things like cash or travel. how's the fro-yo? j
truly meant to kill herself when writing the notes, investigators sent them to fingerprint expert bill thomasmination. thomas sprayed the notes with ninhydrin, a chemical which reacts with the amino acid in perspiration. >> we placed those letters and envelopes into a humidifying chamber, and under those conditions, thealate -- latent prints will actually develop, pretty much like a photograph on photograph paper. >> the ninhydrin revealed that dorothy wasn't perspiring excessively...
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to upgrade high quality companies, eog is a name that i've known for a long time, mark papa and bill thomashey started the shale revolution and, you know, i think they're going to make the right calls. they're capital efficient. names like that, you know, i think are on my more work to do. i own them and i'm not selling down here. that's what auto true contrarian is looking for. stocks that are down. my experience is buying down and out when things are getting better. at this point the only positive in the oil patch is, that the u.s. companies are cutting their capital spending significantly and that will hopefully reduce supply let's say in the next 18 months. i think we've got a little time in energy. financials is another group that's underperformed. you know, since the crisis and again, my strategy is, to upgrade, buy the best quality companies when an industry is out of favor, wells fargo is a big position, they bought wachovia in the crisis and they're just doing a great job managing their costs and their capital, their asset quality. the good news about u.s. companies is to exposure
to upgrade high quality companies, eog is a name that i've known for a long time, mark papa and bill thomashey started the shale revolution and, you know, i think they're going to make the right calls. they're capital efficient. names like that, you know, i think are on my more work to do. i own them and i'm not selling down here. that's what auto true contrarian is looking for. stocks that are down. my experience is buying down and out when things are getting better. at this point the only...
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bill gates topped the list >>> advertising executive thomas barell is an african-american in the so-called 1%. adele walters reports, he made his mark on american culture, working against the odds in an industry run by white men. >> for thomas barell the distance from mean street in chicago to easy street is not measured in miles. [ singing ] >> reporter: instead, the distance is measured in the lyrics of jingles defining a generation - commercials like this mcdonald's ad. would you say you influenced america more with commercials than television. >> it's arguable. >> he is among the 1% of wealthiest americans. at 75 he takes the bus. it is his way of remembering his roots. looking back to move forward. >> i grew up on the block where only black people lived. but the demographics inside the graphics of that block were thoroughly thoroughly layered with wealthy people poor people professional people. >> reporter: and there's a lady in the front row saying "and you don't live will any more." >> right. because there is not there any more. because what happened to there is that the powers came
bill gates topped the list >>> advertising executive thomas barell is an african-american in the so-called 1%. adele walters reports, he made his mark on american culture, working against the odds in an industry run by white men. >> for thomas barell the distance from mean street in chicago to easy street is not measured in miles. [ singing ] >> reporter: instead, the distance is measured in the lyrics of jingles defining a generation - commercials like this mcdonald's ad....
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andrew thomas was one of the first force correspondent to reach the southern island and sent this update. >> reporter: this wrecked billings one of three that make up the primary school on the island. you can see the children won't be coming back for sometime. that building is totally wrecked. and the roof on this one has almost peeled away. we're in the far south and perhaps the island hardest hit by the cyclone. only small planes can get in at the moment. what is really needed are the big military planes. and this is what they told us they need most here. >> priorities are the roads. the roads, the tents, the shelters, foods and medicines, and the tents, shelter foods and medicines are immediate response, they are really needed. >> reporter: believe it or not, this school is one of the least badged buildings here. many aren't standing at all. and we came across a family sitting in the ruins of their home trying to salvage some timber to start building again. >> this house i have had it since 1995. i called my wife we have to move out now. because it is going to be destroyed. i just see the house moving up and down. my h
andrew thomas was one of the first force correspondent to reach the southern island and sent this update. >> reporter: this wrecked billings one of three that make up the primary school on the island. you can see the children won't be coming back for sometime. that building is totally wrecked. and the roof on this one has almost peeled away. we're in the far south and perhaps the island hardest hit by the cyclone. only small planes can get in at the moment. what is really needed are the...
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bill on capitol hill and it passed unanimously. >>> he just wrapped up oscar toasting gig. neil patrick harris sharing his love for thomasting the anniversary with this new video. it's clear harris is just a little obsessed. >> i have spent hours watching the same episodes over and over and over with my kids like a broken record to have some stupid [ bleep ] tell me i don't know as much about thomas the tank engine as you do. yeah, run, run, run! >> that's certainly an interesting tank on thomas. i happen to be a thomas the tank fan. when george karlincarlin. >> i can't watch anymore. the eyes aren't moving the mid-south isn't moving. >> my daughter was obsessed with emily for a while. they do grow out of it but still a good series. >> a funny skit. >> bring it back to life here. >>> now time for a look ahead. new secretary of defense ashton carter will be on capitol hill. he'll be defending the administration military budget request for the next fiscal year. it will be the first appearance before the senate armed services committee sense he took office. >>> happy birthday to jessica beal 33 miranda richardson is 57. kee
bill on capitol hill and it passed unanimously. >>> he just wrapped up oscar toasting gig. neil patrick harris sharing his love for thomasting the anniversary with this new video. it's clear harris is just a little obsessed. >> i have spent hours watching the same episodes over and over and over with my kids like a broken record to have some stupid [ bleep ] tell me i don't know as much about thomas the tank engine as you do. yeah, run, run, run! >> that's certainly an...
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bill de blasio wanted more groups included and boycotting the parade. and our very own thomas roberts, you have your parade outfit, you shoaled it to me in the makeup room and go pro. >> we're going to get video on the parade route and we hope to turn that as quickly as possible -- >> i don't know i'm more excited about, having everybody see your outfit or video. >> it's going to be a great day, regardless. thanks so much. the other big story we've been following today fresh off this impressive rookie nfl season we have the announcement of 24-year-old chris borland saying he's going to walk away from the game. a former linebacker for the 49ers retiring citing long term health effects concern. nfl released a statement saying we're seeing a growing culture of safety, everyone involved in the game knows there's more work to do and player safety will continue to be our top priority. the nfl players association says they are aren't commenting at this time but nbc's carson daly has more for us. >> reporter: in one of the most startling retirements in recent memory, the nfl is losing
bill de blasio wanted more groups included and boycotting the parade. and our very own thomas roberts, you have your parade outfit, you shoaled it to me in the makeup room and go pro. >> we're going to get video on the parade route and we hope to turn that as quickly as possible -- >> i don't know i'm more excited about, having everybody see your outfit or video. >> it's going to be a great day, regardless. thanks so much. the other big story we've been following today fresh...
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andrew jackson is on several notes, thomas jefferson lincoln, madison is also on a large sized $5,000 note. mckinley is on the $10 bill. in today's smaller notes, he was on the $500 bill. here is a new president popping up, james monroe on this $100 silver certificate of 1878 through 1891. george washington appears the most on currency. he appears on 10 different types of large sized banknotes, five different denominations. then he appears on all of these fractional banknotes. washington was a very popular figure in this day and of course today on the one dollar bill. do we need to keep going here? loops -- oops. the portraits very quite a bit on the notes of this period. these are all portraits of alexander hamilton that appeared on different banknotes. this is probably the most familiar portrait. here are a couple of notes that are only a few years apart. he looks a lot more fleshy here than he did in this portrait. here is an entirely different view of him in the first issued banknote the 1861 demand note. here is a couple yet different engravings of alexander hamilton on other banknotes. this was fairly common pra
andrew jackson is on several notes, thomas jefferson lincoln, madison is also on a large sized $5,000 note. mckinley is on the $10 bill. in today's smaller notes, he was on the $500 bill. here is a new president popping up, james monroe on this $100 silver certificate of 1878 through 1891. george washington appears the most on currency. he appears on 10 different types of large sized banknotes, five different denominations. then he appears on all of these fractional banknotes. washington was a...
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bill mcdermott. cloud computing taking over. investment groups have a 5% stake in thomas cook. is worth 92 million pounds. the deal will allow thomas cook to collaborate with other businesss, which includes club med. amazon opened a store on alibaba. the company is seeking to reach chinese shoppers amid struggling efforts replicate it success with american consumers overseas. now, as the buzz at the mobile world congress dies down, tom mckenzie looks at some of the wonderful gadgets you did not hear about at this year's event. tom: mobile world congress is coming to an end. we have seen the smart watches. what we have not seen is this -- johnny walker blue label. it is some pretty smart tech built in. it's nfc enabled, allowing the buyer to find out all sorts of things about whether this is a january bottle of johnny walker blue label. it gives you a list of recipes. take your phone, tap it and that is what you get. at the other end of the spectrum, this is by jujitsu. it's a scanner. i'm register. it scans my iris. within a few seconds, it opens the hpones. this is a prototype
bill mcdermott. cloud computing taking over. investment groups have a 5% stake in thomas cook. is worth 92 million pounds. the deal will allow thomas cook to collaborate with other businesss, which includes club med. amazon opened a store on alibaba. the company is seeking to reach chinese shoppers amid struggling efforts replicate it success with american consumers overseas. now, as the buzz at the mobile world congress dies down, tom mckenzie looks at some of the wonderful gadgets you did not...
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the best selling author thomas piketty believes the rich should pay more in taxes to narrow the growing income cap. but when he made his case to billwell wait until you hear the reaction he got. we'll find that out and more. thomas piketty joining me exclusively when we come right back. and later the apple watch, does the battery really last that 18 hours we've heard? dr. j is shaking his head. or is it less than half that if you use the functions on this watch? this might be the story to watch later. exclusively when we come right >>> french economist and best selling author thomas piketty made the best-seller list last year with his book extolling the belief that the wealthy all over the world should pay more taxes. he concludes capitalism does not self-correct towards grate greater equality. ironically this is his first visit to the new york stock exchange, a destination viewed as the very heart of the capitalism. i don't know if a fox in the hen house is the correct analogy, but welcome. skro thank you. >> do you think capitalism is inherently flawed? >> no there are lots of things working. . i like this place. are you paying t
the best selling author thomas piketty believes the rich should pay more in taxes to narrow the growing income cap. but when he made his case to billwell wait until you hear the reaction he got. we'll find that out and more. thomas piketty joining me exclusively when we come right back. and later the apple watch, does the battery really last that 18 hours we've heard? dr. j is shaking his head. or is it less than half that if you use the functions on this watch? this might be the story to watch...
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thomas jefferson? david stewart: at the end, he has had about 200 slaves. and of course, monticello -- he cannot pay the bills either. he leaves his heirs essentially debt, and none of his slaves are free. brian lamb: what did he die of? david stewart: i can't tell you anything other than old age. brian lamb: what did james monroe die of? david stewart: i'm afraid it's the same answer. brian lamb: and alexander hamilton. we know it he died of. how old was he? and what financial shape was he in? david stewart: 48. he was in pretty terrible shape. he had been a very successful lawyer, but he had a great many debts. which he left for his family. so these people were doing great things in the world, and they were not building fortunes. brian lamb: did he owned slaves? david stewart: hamilton did not own slaves. he was an abolitionist in new york. brian lamb: george washington at the end? david stewart: washington had money. he was a good is listening. he was a fine steward of his plantation. he left a great many slaves, and a great many of them were his wife's. he married her when she was a widow. he left in the
thomas jefferson? david stewart: at the end, he has had about 200 slaves. and of course, monticello -- he cannot pay the bills either. he leaves his heirs essentially debt, and none of his slaves are free. brian lamb: what did he die of? david stewart: i can't tell you anything other than old age. brian lamb: what did james monroe die of? david stewart: i'm afraid it's the same answer. brian lamb: and alexander hamilton. we know it he died of. how old was he? and what financial shape was he in?...
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thomas more russian war planes were probing this week. nato trying to deter tension mounting, especially where those war games continued today. back to you. >> billng. thank you, sir. >>> coming up the marijuana business, how it's booming. we're going to tell you just how much cash colorado is raking in from its weed windfall. and you don't want to miss dr. ben carson's insights into human sexuality. and now this canadians are honoring "star trek's" leonard nimoy by doing something called spocking, but the bank of canada isn't happy about it. there's only one egg that just tastes better. fresher. more flavorful. delicious. only one egg with better nutrition... like more vitamins d, e, and omega 3s. and 25% less saturated fat. only one egg good enough for my family. because why have ordinary when you can have the best. eggland's best. the only egg that gives you so much more: better taste. better nutrition. better eggs. ♪ its effects on society really came about because, not because i was selfish and wanted one for myself, which i did. its because i had, had a passion. my whole life i wanted to teach myself to build computers. i wanted to build th
thomas more russian war planes were probing this week. nato trying to deter tension mounting, especially where those war games continued today. back to you. >> billng. thank you, sir. >>> coming up the marijuana business, how it's booming. we're going to tell you just how much cash colorado is raking in from its weed windfall. and you don't want to miss dr. ben carson's insights into human sexuality. and now this canadians are honoring "star trek's" leonard nimoy by...
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bill neely joins me from irbil in iraq. so explain the significant advance for iraqi troops and how it will impact isis? >> reporter: yeah, good afternoon, thomas is certainly the most decisive moment in the nine months since both tikrit and mosul were captured by isis. it is symbolically significant, as you say. tikrit is saddam hussein's home town because this is the first battle for a major city in iraq against isis and it is also strategically significant because if tikrit was taken this would reverse the momentum that isis has built up over the last nine months. and possibly pave the way to isis being driven -- excuse me -- driven out of mosul. so what we know today is that there has been huge progress. iraqi forces apparently have moved into tikrit towards the hospital towards the presidential palace. they are a huge force, 24,000 fighters according to martin dempsey, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, of which 20,000 are iraqi shia militia. the u.s. is not involved in the assault. it was neither consulting or taking part in the air-strikes. >> certainly encouraging to hear iraqi forces involved in the bush-back. thank you, bill. >>>
bill neely joins me from irbil in iraq. so explain the significant advance for iraqi troops and how it will impact isis? >> reporter: yeah, good afternoon, thomas is certainly the most decisive moment in the nine months since both tikrit and mosul were captured by isis. it is symbolically significant, as you say. tikrit is saddam hussein's home town because this is the first battle for a major city in iraq against isis and it is also strategically significant because if tikrit was taken...
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called thomas jefferson, had not written to james madison at the time the constitution was being drafted, and saying to him basically that he would not support the constitution if there was no bill of rights attached to it. and jefferson wrote that it was necessary to have a bill of rights which clearly and without the aid of sophisms protect freedom of religion, freedom of the press and the like. and really but for jefferson's strong view to that effect, we very well might have -- might not have the constitution that we have, let alone any bill of rights. the argument to the contrary is it was not necessary and therefore it ought not to have been added. i thought i had mentioned three areas of american first amendment law which bear on what sylvie was just referring to, three sort of core first amendment principles. the first of which is that, as one great american scholar put it, the first principle of first amendment law is that there is no heresey, no blasphemy in america. people may feel, think, conclude that others have such views but the law does not recognize the the notion of blasphemy or certainly the heresy which is not to say that at the time of the founding of the c
called thomas jefferson, had not written to james madison at the time the constitution was being drafted, and saying to him basically that he would not support the constitution if there was no bill of rights attached to it. and jefferson wrote that it was necessary to have a bill of rights which clearly and without the aid of sophisms protect freedom of religion, freedom of the press and the like. and really but for jefferson's strong view to that effect, we very well might have -- might not...
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thomas i think it will be fascinating about this. there's a lot of angry conservatives. john boehner will have to pass this bill today with democratic support. they've admitted that. what do angry conservatives do down the line for other significant funding votes that are going to come before congress? there's a lot there, highway trust fund bill the debt limit, funding the entire government. what we saw this last week was probably a sneak preview of very difficult battles ahead for john boehner with the conservative faction of his -- >> when he made the announcement to his caucus and said this is going to go through clean. what are you hearing behind the scenes how upset certain factions were? >> reporter: i heard it came out to not a lot of reaction. it wasn't like people stood up and started clapping. it was mainly meant with silence is what i'm told. i've spoken to a free angry conservative members who say this is boehner advocating for amnesty, you're going to hear a lot of outcry from the right. but what do you also have today? you have this proxy war between nancy pelosi and john boehner about benjamin n
thomas i think it will be fascinating about this. there's a lot of angry conservatives. john boehner will have to pass this bill today with democratic support. they've admitted that. what do angry conservatives do down the line for other significant funding votes that are going to come before congress? there's a lot there, highway trust fund bill the debt limit, funding the entire government. what we saw this last week was probably a sneak preview of very difficult battles ahead for john...
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thomas before too long. >>> now take you to oregon the state preparing for a surge of new voters. after a first in the nation billed to vote when they go to obtain a driver's license or state id card. builds on the motor voter law. 16 states but restrictions on that. voting rights activists are celebrating the law. it is not without controversy. the bill passed the state legislature among party line votes without a single republican supporter. joining me for the first national interview, oregon governor kate brown. pleasure to see you, thanks for being with me. >> good morning, thanks so much for having me this morning. >> thanks. let's get into some of the more controversial aspects of the law. opponents have concerns about id theft that a non-u.s. citizen goes to get an id may slip through and get registered. what assurances can you give that neither of those things will happen? >> when oregonians go to department of motor vehicles, they're required to provide proof of citizenship, only those that provided proof of citizenship that their data will be forwarded on to secretary of state's office so that's the sam
thomas before too long. >>> now take you to oregon the state preparing for a surge of new voters. after a first in the nation billed to vote when they go to obtain a driver's license or state id card. builds on the motor voter law. 16 states but restrictions on that. voting rights activists are celebrating the law. it is not without controversy. the bill passed the state legislature among party line votes without a single republican supporter. joining me for the first national...
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called thomas jefferson, have not written by james madison at the time of the constitution was being drafted and saying to him basically that he would not support the constitution if there was no billrights attached to it. and jefferson wrote that it was necessary to have a bill of rights which clearly and without the aid of soft -isms, protected freedom of religion, freedom of the press and the like. and really but for jefferson's strong view to that effect, we very well might not have the constitution that we have let alone any bill of rights the argument to the contrary was it was not necessary and, therefore, it not at two have been added. i thought i would mention three areas of american first amendment law which bear on what sylvie was just referring to three sort of core first amendment principles. the first of which is that as one great american scholar put it, that the first principle of first amendment law is that there is no heresy no blasphemy in america. people may feel think, conclude that others have such views but the law does not recognize the notion of blasphemy or certainly heresy, which is not to say that at the time of the founding of the country that they were
called thomas jefferson, have not written by james madison at the time of the constitution was being drafted and saying to him basically that he would not support the constitution if there was no billrights attached to it. and jefferson wrote that it was necessary to have a bill of rights which clearly and without the aid of soft -isms, protected freedom of religion, freedom of the press and the like. and really but for jefferson's strong view to that effect, we very well might not have the...
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bill here in the house and move forward in a positive way, to make sure that americans remain prosperous, americans remain secure and americans remain free. that's what our constitution was all about. that's what thomas jefferson was all about. that's what benjamin franklin was all about and that's what we're supposed to be all about. i thank you and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. under the speaker's announced policy of january 6, 2015, the gentlewoman from california mrs. capps, is recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the minority leader. mrs. capps: mr. speaker, i rise today to honor the memory of local santa barbara, california firefighter daniel corigan. dan was born and raised in hayward, california where he played football and attended a catholic high school. dan earned his degree in mechanical engineeringing from college. and -- engineering from california and he began his fire fighting career with the fresno fire department in 2007. in 2013, dan joined the santa barbara city fire department, where he made a tremendous impact not only on his colleagues but the entire community. throughout his career, dan
bill here in the house and move forward in a positive way, to make sure that americans remain prosperous, americans remain secure and americans remain free. that's what our constitution was all about. that's what thomas jefferson was all about. that's what benjamin franklin was all about and that's what we're supposed to be all about. i thank you and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. under the speaker's announced...
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great rotunda is a mural on the wall written by thomas pharo and it stands with a phrase, "here is a land where the line is written in water." so during this bill, i will be offering amendment number 443 to make sure we're protecting that lifeblood of colorado, our water, to make sure that our state property rights, state law is able to prevail against incursions of the intrusions by the federal government. over the past several decades we have watched as the federal government has attempted to assert bypass flows or federal reserved water rights that impede our ability to carry out private water rights and to, indeed protect colorado private water rights. whether it's the imposition of a bypass flow on a ditch that is going through forest service ground or perhaps it's the new forest service ski area water rule or the ground water rule that they are discussing, which once again challenges the supremacy of state water law. this government has a long history of yielding to state water law making sure that state water law is supreme when it comes toe carry out and manage our state water rights. over the years bipartisan coalitions in colorado, wy
great rotunda is a mural on the wall written by thomas pharo and it stands with a phrase, "here is a land where the line is written in water." so during this bill, i will be offering amendment number 443 to make sure we're protecting that lifeblood of colorado, our water, to make sure that our state property rights, state law is able to prevail against incursions of the intrusions by the federal government. over the past several decades we have watched as the federal government has...
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bill neely reporting from tikrit. joining us now codirector and senior fellow of the trans national threats project for the center for strategic and international study, thomashave you on this morning. >> thank you. >> who are these people? where are they coming from? >> well, this is an interesting group of people who are strongly motivated. want to make a difference but i think it's only going to make a very small marginal difference depending on where they go and what they're able to do but certainly something noteworthy. >> and noble. >> what is -- what's your best -- best view of what's going on right now with isis? one week we hear that they're in retreat. everybody is squabbling about to turn guns on each other. they're shooting deserts. the next week we hear that they like have ganged antarctica or something. >> it's conflicting headlines. >> sure. over time any group is going to have its troubles and its fishers and we're seeing some of those right now. certainly we've seen with hamas when you take territory and you control it haven't actually govern it having of collect the garbage, keep the water running and electricity flowing it's very difficult
bill neely reporting from tikrit. joining us now codirector and senior fellow of the trans national threats project for the center for strategic and international study, thomashave you on this morning. >> thank you. >> who are these people? where are they coming from? >> well, this is an interesting group of people who are strongly motivated. want to make a difference but i think it's only going to make a very small marginal difference depending on where they go and what...