i know daphne has written a lot about this and, and also bill white. i published a paper in 2004 in the treatment, alcoholism treatment quarterly, which actually talks a lot about the issue of terminology and how it may affect, how it's imprecise. for example, we use the term abuse, generically, but also it's a diagnostic label, it's actually a, a dsm diagnostic label, which creates a lot of confusion when you see it written. are they referring to the more generic issue, you know, regarding the whole range of problems versus a particular diagnosis, that has specific meaning? so it's imprecisely used and this is a problem, of course, in communication. so one of the things that i think we need to, we need to have a term that describes these problems generically... and the institute of medicine has tried to deal with that, have they not? yes and the world health organization too, so in the 1970's they were advocating against using the term abuse, even though the american psychiatric association adopted that term which is unfortunate because then that give

and so i think it's real important that, and, and i think bill white talks about this, that the greatestgma reducer is when you begin to promote these relationships, their interactions between communities and people in recovery or the interaction between treatment programs and the neighborhoods where they're located. and i think it's really, really important. and lureen i want to go into the, the treatment system itself. are there opportunities for the treatment system, the individuals that are providing the treatment in your, you're in a state entity and certainly this program is sponsored by a federal entity, are there opportunities for, for those entities to look at the change that needs to happen in language and, and what can be done about that? i think it's very important, i do think it's an opportunity. one of the things that we're doing in new york is that, we've taken the language that samhsa has promoted and we have sort of tweaked it. we have a one-pager, two-sided, that we are going to be taking to every meeting, every meeting with a provider, every convention, everywhere. bec

and, and you know daphne has, has quoted bill white quite a bit and, and he's truly prolific writer and agree with the title that folks had given him, the dean of recovery. but he was saying that three ways to deal with social stigma, stigmatations stigma, stigma if you will. one is to protest stigma and discrimination are illegal and you need to protest, protest that and bring it to the forefront and hold the folks that are doing it, accountable. but there also is an educational component he talks about. and then there's a contact component. and this this is not new. i got this from a 2009 paper that he did with arthur evans. and so i think you had suggested it, we need a multi-prong approach where stigma is alive and well and where folks are comfortable with that, we need to hold them accountable. but we need to do some education as well, within the field as well as outside the field. and then i think we need to look at establishing new contexts and reaching out to non-traditional groups if you will, the recovering community. i believe that we could do more in reaching out to them. an

bill plante is at the white house tonight. bill, good evening to you. >> reporter: good evening, jeff. that's right. and the president today mounted an angry offense against his fellow democrats who accuse him of caving to republican demands. >> a long political fight that carried over into next year might have been good politics but it would be a bad deal for the economy and it would be a bad deal for the american people. >> reporter: the proposed compromise extends for two years the bush-era tax cuts for all, including the highest earners. it renews unemployment benefits for 13 months for the long-term jobless, brings back the estate tax at 35%, but only over $5 million, and cuts everyone's payroll tax by 2 percentage points for one year. >> so this isn't an abstract debate, this is real money for real people and will make a real difference in the lives of the folks who sent us here. in other words, it's a good deal for the american people. >> reporter: but many democrats are telling the president that the compromise deal com

bill plante is our senior white house correspondent. bill, the president isn't calling himself the comeback kid but some other folks are. >> reporter: katie, it was a victory lap no one thought the president would be able to take. he called it a reflection of the message voters sent-- find common ground and get things done. >> a lot of folks in this town predicted that after the midterm elections, washington would be headed for more partisanship and more gridlock. instead this has been a season of progress for the american people. >> reporter: in addition to the new start treaty and the repeal of don't ask, don't tell, the lame duck session of congress continued bush-era tax cuts for all americans over the next two years, cut payroll taxes for a year, extended unemployment insurance, and passed a sweeping food safety bill. >> so i think it's fair to say that this has been the most productive post-election period we've had in decades. and it comes on the heels of the most productive two years that we've had in generations. >> reporter: an

you are now a senior writer for the dallas morning news turning out pieces on the finances of bill white and yet also a profile of george hamilton. a wonderful range. he wrote the book previously. so how did you begin the process of figuring all of this out? this could go on. in a nutshell what was it about your reporting that did not being a professor of history, someone who made his living doing this, how did you figure it out? >> a very good question. and it is one that has been asked all the way along. it started out with, who is going to hire me or give me an advance on a book? i'm not a historian. i had to go the extra mile and approved. in a lot of ways i found that i'm a reporter. that is to ibm. that is what i do. i found that my reporting skills work to do history. there is one little thing that i did that i don't think -- maybe i should not even say this. historians might laugh be out of the road. one of the things i realized is that i had to -- i could not be one of these guys who went out and beaver away for three years and came back with this much stuff. then i sit down and

senior white house correspondent bill plante is following developments. good evening, bill. >> reporter: good evening, harry. it wasn't easy getting there, >> this is not perfect but it's a potential step on the road to recovery. >> reporter: the deal includes a two-year extension of the bush tax cuts for everyone, including the wealthiest taxpayers in exchange far 13-month extension of unemployment benefits for long-term out-of-work americans. the estate tax returns at 35% on estates worth over $35 million and there is a one-year 2% cut in payroll taxes for all workers. the compromise was all but

bill. >> the white house tax cut proposal is expected to pass the first key test. >> i can say we have a good cross section of the senate democratic caucus from left to right who are prepared to accept this. >> reporter: this afternoon, the senate is set to approve the measure before expected passage later this week but the plan faces a tougher battle in the house. democrats insist they won't even bring it to the floor until cuts for the healthy are scaled back. >> we will change this and hopefully the president will back us up as we try to take out the worst things in it. >> reporter: in it an extension for higher income earner and an evidence skate tax that some see as too generous. the white house is optimistic congress will pass the deal before the cuts expire at the end of the month. >> i don't think we will get through. i don't think that anyone wants to be responsible for taxes going up on january 1st because we couldn't come to a resolution. >> reporter: republicans support the plan president obama spoke to them. in an interview with 60 minutes, how minority leader said the $900

bill clinton arrived at the white house, met with the president from there the two headed to the presidentialt the press. there, bill clinton gave a full-throated endorsement of the bipartisan compromise on taxes that president obama had struck. when president obama failed, he spent enough time make his points he

senior white house correspondent bill plante is following developments. good evening, bill. >> reporter: good evening, harry. it wasn't easy getting there, >> this is not perfect but it's a potential step on the road to recovery. >> reporter: the deal includes a two-year extension of the bush tax cuts for everyone, including the wealthiest taxpayers in exchange far 13-month extension of unemployment benefits for long-term out-of-work americans. the estate tax returns at 35% on estates worth over $35 million and there is a one-year 2% cut in payroll taxes for all workers. the compromise was all but inevitable after democrats failed saturday to pass bills capping the tax cuts at incomes up to $250,000 or even a million dollars. >> do you really think that the c.e.o.s on wall street who make hundreds of millions of dollars a year really need a tax break? >> reporter: house democrats, though, have yet to sign off on any proposed deal. >> certainly none of us in the house have signed off on any kind of understanding like this. we're going to have to look very

cbs news senior white house correspondent bill plante has the latest from the white house. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, erica. democrats are furious thinking the president gave away the store. he says he had no choice. here's the president in a news conference tuesday, the president said he agreed to the compromise because he didn't want the people to be collateral damage in a political fight. >> i think it is tempting not to negotiate with hostage takers unless the hostage gets harmed. then people will question the wisdom of that strategy. in this case, the hostage was the american people. and i was not willing to see them get harmed. >> reporter: the deal includes a two-year extension of the tax cuts for everyone. including the highest earners. it extends unemployment benefits for 13 months for the long-term jobless and cuts everyone's social security tax by 2 percentage points for one year. republican leaders argue the compromise makes good economic sense. they point out that the deal extends several tax credits from the president's stimulus package, inc

bill, the white paper, the review what the white house released today wasn't putting lipstick on a pigt was a cosmetic makeover. the whole pork industry. it did not address the three fundamental challenges among thousands that we face. first of all, it doesn't talk and the president didn't talk about the corruption and the treasury of the karzai administration that we are keeping in office it didn't talk about how the pakistanis are ally -- are allies are protecting and supporting the taliban and possibly members of al qaeda. and it didn't really talk honestly about how the taliban has some real support among certain parts of the afghan population. it talks about those other space invaders when, in fact, they are the home team. now, bill, you can't win a war if you are not honest about your enemies. >> bill: okay. now, the paper that came out today was more of a military thing that they are doing better in kandahar in the south of afghanistan. and we -- those reports jive with what we are hearing as well. that the brave marines and soldiers down there have succeeded in weeding out a lo

>> i thought it was a good move on behalf of this white who is. what bill magic of being able to explain complicated public policy initiatives in simple language. that's what he did at the white house podium. he made people understand why this was the deal that the united states needed at the time. megyn: why can't president obama do that? >> he's doing it day in and day out. but you know that when you have a difficult initiative to sell, you want everybody on your team to be able to help you. it's nothing new. presidents have done this in the past. when you are in a difficult position you bring in the big guns. president obama is confident enough in his own position that he can bring in somebody like bill clinton. megyn: a former president coming into the white house briefing room and taking over while the president leaves? >> he wasn't taking over. megyn: when has that happened? >> you are asking me when that has happened? what i'm say can is it's nothing new for presidents to help former presidents when they are trying to do something difficult. megyn: t

that's why bill clinton was here at the white house yesterday in a very unusual visit. >> so i'm going to take off. >> reporter: it was a big surprise at the white house. >> you're in good hands. >> reporter: bill clinton taking a handoff from president obama to help sell his controversial tax cut deal. >> the agreement taken as a whole is, i believe, the best bipartisan agreement we can reach. >> reporter: the fact that mr. obama turned to the popular former president shows just how fragile this deal is. clinton friday lectured some reluctant democrats who feel president obama has abandoned his campaign promise to end tax cuts for the rich. >> look, if we had 5% growth and unemployment was dropping like a rock, maybe you could have this so-called mexican standoff. >> i'm sure it didn't take the current president long to swallow whatever objections he might have to giving the stage to bill clinton because this president needs that president right now. >> reporter: today mr. obama in his weekly web address acknowledged members of his own party are uncomfortable with the plan. >> but at

in the last couple of days president obama has gotten a key endorsement former president bill clinton at the white house appearing with president obama saying that this is a good deal for americans. he endorsed it saying at this point it is the best bipartisan deal they could have reached. we'll watch out for the test vote later today. veronica? >> tracey potts, thank you. >>> a massive snowstorm buried parts of the midwest wreaking havoc on roadways and four dea h deaths are being blamed on it. frances kuo has this report. >> reporter: the great digout has begun. >> i've never seen it this bad. >> a lot of snow on the ground. >> reporter: more than 17 inches piled up and snarled traffic as blizzard-like conditions swept through minneapolis over the weekend. residents spent most of their sunday trying to free their cars and their homes from the snowy mess. >> this one seems a lot more packed down i think from the wind blowing so the snow is heavy. >> reporter: that brought big troubles to the home of the vikings. >> three roof panels ruptured and caused deflation of the roof. >> reporter: the infl

enterprise, man. >> i am allowed to do it, but i can also tell them they are stupid. >> bill, you truly believe in a whitedon't you? >> i do, i do. >> oh my goodness. >> this is a joke. >> don't do drugs, kids. marriage is great. >> there you go. way to clean it up for everybody, bill. >>> time to take a break. when we return, more stuff. he will probably be dead though. >>> they say it transforms the way we live our lives. i speak not of the son, although it helps. but facebook. at least according to time -- "time" who found mark zuckerberg the person of the year. they say that not only is the social networking site changing the way we relate to each other, it passed 500 million users which is half of jupiter. runners up include the tea party, julian assange and hamid karzai. let's discuss this in our lightning round. what is it called again? aka. >> stories we like but not enough to include earlier, but still wanted to talk about, so let's quickly do them now. >> weird looking kid? >> yeah, it is an american magazine called "time." it should be called "el tempo". >> i didn't look at it from a national l

former president bill clinton, at the white house, appearing with president obama saying that thiss a good deal f americans. he endorsed him saying at this point it is the best bipartisan deal that they could have reached. we'll watch out for that test vote later today sprerpen ka? >> we sure will. tracie potts live for us in washington. >>> a massive snowstorm buried parts of the midwest over the weekend wreaking havoc on roadways and runways across the region. at least four deaths are being blamed on the wicked winterlike weather that brought biting winds and dumped nearly two feet of powder. nbc's frances coe has a report. >> reporter: the great digout has begun in hard-hit nnesota. >> i've never seen it this pad before, i don't think. >> there's a lot of snow on the ground. >> reporter: more than 17 inches of snow piled high and snarled traffic, as blizzardlike conditns swept through minneapolis over the weekend. residents spent most of their sunday trying to free their cars and their homes from the snowy mess. >> this one seems a lot more packed down from the wind blowing, so the

bill: that is what the white house is arguing now.rought against them and ultimately they prevailed and back to steny hoyer's point, he said in that speech yesterday. at the press club in washington. it is easier to stir up culture wars and cultural resentment and those proved successful but are poisonous to our future. is that an implication against conservative america, mary catherine? a shot at maybe the tea party movement? >> that is what he means, as i would argue the people are saying, hey! we have to take more taxes from a certain income just because they are of a certain income is a little bit more class warfare than going on with the tea party movement but that is who he means it for and the proof is in the pudding, the actual results matter, why people are upset about the trillion dollar stimulus that didn't stimulate and it was spectacularly unstimulative and unless you have results, people get upset. bill: joe, i don't know what you think about that and to many it appeared like a veiled shot at what happened a month ago. i

and though the white house put out a statement supporting the bill in september, the president hasn't said one word publicly about it. outraging some 9/11 victims advocates. "the president's a busy man. but if he had time to congratulate the l.a. lakers this week, he can set aside a few minutes for those who are sick and dying because of 9/11," said one 9/11 victims advocate. the bill's edadvocates say they will close to finding a way to pay for the bill, paving the way for what should be easy passage. but on this congress, time is running out and there is no agreement yet. >> clock is ticking. thank you, jon karl. >>> we learned tonight that the cia has pulled its most important spy out of one of the most dangerous places in the world. the agency's top spy in pakistan has been called home. his cover was blown, his life threatened. the u.s. and pakistan are at odds over the american drone strikes, and some american officials suspect that the agent's name was deliberately leaked by the pakistani spy agency. >>> wikileaks founder julian assange spent his first full day out on bail today

his decision today came as no surprise to the white house. >> the bill will continue to have its day in court. >> the judge has provided -- presided over other high profile cases. >>> there it is. our next wave of rain already impacting and slowly pushing towards the bay area. rain pushing in early in the morning. breaking apart the showers before reaching most of the bay area. 7:00 in the morning, scattered showers and there comes the main band of rain at the 9:00 hour. and by 1:00 areas of heavy rain to the north. pockets of heavy rain continue into the 3:00 hour. and down into the south bay by 5:00. impacting the evening commute. we will see heavier showers into the 7:00 hour. here is what we are looking at. 3/4 of an inch in the north bay. quart in the south bay. it varies because of the pockets of heavy rain. the weekend we will get hit with a blast of heavy rainfall. saturday, heavy rain. in the bay area and through most of california. 1:00 on saturday, this will pull in tropical moisture. it pulls up the rain into monday and bring us a shot of very heavy rain into 4:00 on mond

he's hosting former president bill clinton at the white house to talk political strategy. >> right now1. a little drizzly this morning and dense fog but that's going to change for the weekend, i hear. >> i think so. definitely drier. we may see fog redevelop in the east bay valleys, keep them cooler while the rest of us are going to be warmer. it will be drier, a lot easier to get around and you won't have to worry about getting wet. as far as what we're looking at now, here is the embarcadero, downtown san francisco where we can see some of the wet weather still clinging to the roads and the trees and the buildings, too. visibility not bad right here. it's better than it was. we can actually see the bay bridge even though we're about a mile away from it. let's talk about temperatures then. how you should dress for the morning. for mild weather. look at this, mid to upper 50s in most neighborhoods. 60 fremont and mountain view. and the monterey bay and inland, same thing, mid to upper 50s. very mild in your neighborhoods also. here are your highlights. morning drizzle and fog, a scatte

bill: the white house is cranking the pressure up on congress to get this thing going and in the meantimeg, we're going to vote on tax cuts for the middle class, 250,000 or less. what is at play here? >> this is one of these issues where both parties agree on the policy goal which is to extend unemployment benefits, beyond the 99 weeks, they currently are. question is, how to pay for them, house democrats and senate democrats are basically saying they don't have to be paid for, with corresponding cuts and other spending, republicans are insisting that they are, and, you've got -- argument going back and forth, where democrats are saying, look, if you republicans want to support tax cuts for the rich, which you are not paying for and now insist that we pay for unemployment benefits, that is not going to fly, the white house is trying to put pressure on republicans with this new -- >> why wouldn't democrats on the house take this up first? seems like the right hand is doing one thing and the left is doing another, byron. >> well, i think part of this is, because they can in the house, i mea

bill. i don't think the white house expects a dream act or don't ask, don't tell to be brought back in theate nor to pass if they are. the white house feeling is they've got this tax deal, they need that not to blow up. if they can keep that not blowing up, they can say they extended the rates, then when they come back, straight messaging. a republican congress. they can go to war. they don't have to extend the tax rates to keep the economy afloat. they have a lot more freedom in that scenario than to come back and immediately get into gauc negotiations with boehner by the time we're signing those tax forms. >> does the white house not understand how dispirited some of their supporters are over this tax bill and that another way to bring them some form of christmas cheer is to do something real and difficult on don't ask, don't tell or on the dream act to really make an effort at that? >> one of the things that the white house is fatal about is the senate. if the votes aren't there, you say the votes aren't there. a fair critique here is they don't travel to people's districts. they don't

this. >> david makes the point, alex, that this is a stimulus bill in the white house and the price tag is a little bigger than the last stimulus bill. it's either tax cuts or not tax increases for people and then the payroll tax which is a little bit of a tax cut. >> it's a little bit of a tax cut but you nailed it. it's not a tax increase. we're not taking something away but we're not really adding anything stimulative to the economy now. so, yes, we are not hurting people. we decided not to rob taxpayers and call it a gift. we're raising expectations beyond what i think this so-called stimulus is going to deliver. >> i want to take a closer look at the package. i want to break it down for people at home that have not been following the debate. let's take a look at the compromise package. $860 billion that all gets added to the deficit. the state tax provision, liberals thought that was a big away to the wealthy. extending tax cuts nearly $550 billion. $463 billion for those $250,000 a year and below. $82 billion for the higher incomers, unemployment benefits, and payroll tax, the soc