bill whitehouse from the british the council talking to me earlier about the extraordinary operation— british cave council. more than 200 firefighters and soldiers are continuing to tackle moorland fires across greater manchester and lancashire as they try to contain the huge wildfires burning across areas near bolton and saddleworth moor. it comes as most of britain continues to swelter in the heatwave. the met office says last month was the driestjune on record in large parts of southern england. and scotland experienced its highest temperature ever recorded — 33.2 celsius in motherwell. danny savage has the latest. the full extent of the damage to the moors above bolton is astonishing. several square miles have been destroyed by fire. the bbc was given permission to fly a drone over the area. the flames burned all weekend and tonight, it's not getting much better. we've still 29 fire engines. we'll still be having significant operations through the night protecting local homes and we will be back to having in the region of 29 fire engines all day tomorrow, so there's still a huge

we can talk to bill whitehouse, who has been helping coordinate the rescue operation.el the authorities have had no choice but to watch the operation now?m authorities have had no choice but to watch the operation now? it is looking that way. they have been working on all sorts of other options for quite a long time now. the concern is that there is every likelihood that the weather will be closing in, and more rain coming. and while scoring parade by about option would not have been their first choice, the timescale and the fa ct first choice, the timescale and the fact that it is going to take some time to get all 13 of them out, then, yes, the problem they felt was that the time had come when a decision had to be made and they had to go for the diving option. when you talk about the dive out option, it's obviously difficult and dangerous. just talk us through how you think they are going to do it.” don't know, i heard you talking before i came on about how they were going to do it. that description might have been right. there are a number of ways it could be done.

joining me on the phone now is bill whitehouse. e vice chairman of the british rescue council, and has been in contact with those british rescue divers at the scene. bill, first off, let me get your reaction to the news that at least four of the boys have been rescued from the cave. >> it's incredibly good news. i think not just for the ones who have been rescued today, but it shows that the methods used to rescue them work, and therefore the same methods will hopefully be successful with their friends. >> bill, tell me a little bit about these british divers who are playing a role in the rescues. i understand there's civilians. i've heard one of them is a consultant from bristol. the other a retired firefighter from coventry. give me some sense of them and their experience in cave diving. >> right. well, i mean, they started as cavers, not just cave dives, but cave explorers. and they started getting into cave diving because when you encountered a flooded passage in a cave, if you can dive through that flooded passage, you might ge

bill whitehouse from the british cave rescue council, thank you for your insights. let's bring you those live pictures again from the scene. it looks like there is food assistance if i am not mistaken there. the rescue operation continues well into the night. we have been hearing reports that two of the boys have been brought out safely and we are awaiting more news on what has happened. that took around nine hours which is not as long as we were told it would take. we were expecting that they would be around at two o'clock and they have been brought out slightly earlier, but a long way to go still. let's speak to andy evers, the former head of the british caving association. what more have you been hearing about this rescue operation? to be honest, i gave a number of interviews this morning and i have been doing family things for a couple of hours. i have been married very happily for 50 years and i am trying to kid like that! i have had a number of phone calls from various people and i know as much as anybody else as to what is going on and i am absolutely delight

the children which is encouraging but we still haven't figuring out how they will extract them, bill whitehousehelping us what's going on underneath the ground in thailand. >>> we have a lot of news this special edition of "few dnew da let's get into it. >> putin was trying to compromise our election to help trump win. >> it's ridiculous. it's another excuse. i don't believe it. >> we don't want russia to interfere in our election this year. >> the president floated replacing sessions with scott pruitt. scott pruitt himself proposed it to the president. >> i'm not happy about certain things but he's done a fantastic job running the epa. >> he is actively sacrificing our clean air, our clean water to line his own pockets. >> they're running out of options. >>> we are expecting heavy rains in the next couple days. >> we're not out of the woods yet. this is just the beginning of the rescue phase. >> announcer: this is a special edition of "new day" with allisalisyn camerota and john berman. >>> welcome to a special holiday edition of "new day." it's 8:00 in the east onhi

bill whitehouse, thank you for your expertise, we appreciate you talking to us. >> thank you. >> johnwe'll stay on that story and follow the breaking developments. >>> meanwhile, why did michael cohen break his silence yesterday? what does it mean for president trump? that's next. ♪ when you're crafting performance, no measure is too extreme. the luxus high performance line. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. >>> the president's self-proclaimed fixer michael cohen once said he would "take a bullet for donald trump." now in an interview with abc news, cohen is making it clear his loyalty is to his country and family first, not president trump. joining me now is attorney for stormy daniels, michael avenatti. michael, thanks for waking up early for us west coast time. there seem to be three theories about what michael cohen is doing. number one, sending a message to prosecutors that he's ready to deal. number two, sending a message to president trump that hey, you better help pay my legal bills, maybe think about pardoning me else i might sing. option three is an interesting one, t

bill whitehouse of the british cave rescue council has been in touch with some of the divers who werey went in and had to go through about 1500 metres of partly flooded and open passage, bits of flooded passage a bit above water and so forth. the description in the e—mail was it was a bit of a gnarly dive which means there were complications and problems. quite a strong cove na nt so and problems. quite a strong covenant so having to swim against the current and pull themselves along the walls. the visibility would not have been very good. they have been diving over the weekend since the conditions got better and this was the last of the dives. we we re this was the last of the dives. we were hoping when they went in yesterday morning that this would be day we might learn something one way 01’ day we might learn something one way or the other but still about 4am when we got the message it was announced on thailand radio that they had been found and we waited for the confirmation and that was really quite a moment. our correspondent howard johnson sent us this report from outside the c

we are joined now by bill whitehouse from the british cave diving council, who is coordinating the responsees, i understand we have had information this morning that it has started. they are six hours ahead in time. fantastic that they have managed to get four of them out. can you tell us what you know about the difficulties, what happened, how difficulties, what happened, how difficult it was and what their experiences were like? they have been working on the plan in the last few days. the exact details, i don't know, because that can wait for when there is time to talk about these things. but it would appear that six divers went right the way through to where the boys are. there were the four of the british divers, including the two who found them in the first place, and a couple of australian divers, one of whom is a doctor. they will have kitted up the boys, and as we understand it, the four british divers each brought one of them out. lots of the other divers, as you say, a huge diving effort going on but a lot of support divers in the more outer sections of the cave stacking air bottl

let's ask bill whitehouse, from the british cave rescue council. good morning.contact with them. yes, we have had messages with a bit more information. what have they told you? a bit about the dive, that they we nt you? a bit about the dive, that they went in, they had to go through about 1500 metres partly flooded and partly open passage, bits of flooded passage and a bit above water and so forth. the description in his e—mail was it was a bit of a gnarly dive, which means their work obligations and problems. quite a strong flow, current, so they were having to swim against the current and pulled themselves along the walls. the visibility in the water wouldn't have been very good. they have been diving over the weekend since the conditions got better and this was the last of the dives. we were hoping when they went in at 630 in the morning that this would be the day when we might learn something one way or the other, but about four o'clock when we got the message, it was announced on the radio that they had been found and you think, is that right? wait for the

joining us now is sarita robinson, who's a specialist in survival psychology, and bill whitehouse fromo be looked after physically ——? . and looked after physically ——? .and in looked after physically ——? . and in terms of mental health. we need to normalise their experience and give them space or the natural zillions to kick in. it will be really important we settle them back infor really important we settle them back in for school and make sure there with family and friends as soon as medically possible to talk about their experience with their peers —— space for the natural experience to kick in. psychologists should do a period of watchful waiting. basicallyjust checking on them, checking with their parents that their not having too many nightmares, flashbacks, negative mood swings —— then not having too many. hopefully passion their not having too many. in a month or six weeks we will see that taper away and resolve itself naturally. if not, i couple of points down the line, psychologists may be involved in offering interventions such an extraordinary sequence of events they have

today, i introduced two bills on a bipartisan basis with senator graham and senator whitehouse. aimed at election integrity and also countering this cyberattack increasing the penalties for cyber crime, enabling the justice department to stop bot net attacks. we need an all of government response. what we're seeing from the administration is exactly the opposite. they are not yet even implementing all of the sanctions that we passed almost unanimously in the senate some time ago. i am a co-sponsor of the deter act. my colleague chris van hollen of maryland talked about it a little while ago on your show. very important that we heighten sanctions and also there are other measures that we can and should take. >> on another really important issue, you heard testimony from representatives of the house -- of the administration's homeland security department. they testified before the homeland security committee up on capitol hill. and they gave various explanations why more than 700 children are still separated from their mothers and their fathers. what was your takeaway from hearing

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whitehouse from rhode island, senator patrick leahy from vermont. but we'i'm going to tell you jua little story. last year i had an idea for a bill. and i shared it with our next speaker, united states senator. it was a bill to create technologies that could detect fentanyl before it reached the borders of our country. 75% of all the opioid deaths now have fentanyl in the bloodstream of those victims. so for 10 minutes in his office, we spoke about that issue. and then, for the next 50 minutes, we talked about robert f. kennedy. his knowledge of robert f. kennedy and john kennedy and ted kennedy was enormous. his ability to relate the message of robert f. kennedy to today was powerful and deep. and his message today is something that i think reflects to the american people his ability to understand what robert f. kennedy was trying to signal to our country. i give you my friend, the great congressman from the state of florida, marco rubio. [ applause ] >> thank you. i'm honored to be here. a personal story, my parents arrived here in 1966. they did not become citizens until 1976, but my mother tells me she was an american well bef