i have learned enormous amount working with bill whittaker.urnalist through his stories. i mean, you may not know, for example, bill whittaker's dad worked in the old white establishment, the cotton club. he worked at a time there as a waiter when he couldn't even be a patron in the place. his mother was waiting for him in the kitchen, playing cards with ella fitzgerald. this was something that me as a white kid growing up in queens had no idea about. together, you know, we shared our cultural experiences. and we elevated the broadcast. and "60 minutes" i think, rev, "60 minutes" could do better in that regard. it would make it a much better broadcast. >> you shared some of the stories with me about whittaker when we have talked. but you have it all in the book. you worked as a producer on "60 minutes" for decades. they had a number of female and black tv journalists who were trail blazers in the industry, who were still predominantly white, but behind the scenes, racism and sexual harassment were still major problems, from the time you began