republican members in the house, that are dealing with their own immigration reform bill, and that was left to sit and withers and die. the question is, does the united states of america and does the house of representatives really think that there is going to be absolutely no political cost -- >> that's the point, yes. >> if immigration reform does not happen. and don't they realize the economic costs of no immigration reform in this country? the president spoke very eloquently about the economic benefits of immigration rmp. and the republicans that are so worried about amnesty, there's an amnesty right now in this country. there are 11 million people in the united states that you and i don't know where they are, don't know who they are, don't know who the good ones are, don't know where the bad ones are. that's amnesty. >> and here's the political strategy, as i've seen it, from observing this on the republican side. there was so much pressure that built up in the wake of the election and the senate passed the bill. and my read on this is the house and john boehner are just like, if we pretend this doesn't