andrea mitchell spoke with king about its lasting impact >> the tennis battle of the sexes, billie jean kingersus bobby riggs. >> reporter: 29-year-old billie jean king was at the top of her game in 1973 bobby riggs was 55 the self-described male chauvinist had been ranked number one and was convinced he could beat her. >> the male is king. the male is supreme. >> reporter: 90 million people watched around the world >> look at that crowd. >> what did you need to prove in that match 50 years ago for women? >> i knew the match was much bigger than a tennis match i knew it was about social change. >> reporter: king shut down the doubters beating riggs in three straight sets. >> after i won, he came up to the net and said, i underestimated you. >> people underestimated you a lot as one of the very early pioneers. >> i think people underestimate women in general, and i'm sure they underestimated you too. >> reporter: king's victory that day cemented her status as one of the greats. >> every day since that day, someone has brought the match up, so i know that it affected a lot of people, so i thin

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it was her work off the court that has made her the true icon she is today >> this is billie jean king. 50 years ago, king found herself at the forefront of change in june of 1973, she brought dozens of fellow athletes together for a vote to form the women's tennis association it would give the top female tennis players a united voice for the first time and help them make a living playing the sport they loved were you worried there was a chance this could fail >> yes i was very worried. >> reporter: how would you describe the energy in the room? there is so much at stake there. >> they were very quiet. but they were listening and i gave them the old pep talk think about 50 years ago and how big that would be. anyway, they voted yes. >> reporter: the u.s. open also made history later that year, becoming the first grand slam to offer equal prize money to male and female champions, all thanks to king's determination and her threat of a potential boycott. what were you being told at the time as to why women were being paid less? >> people don't like you as much you don't make as much money

for her to say ah, ah, ah, you, billie jean king how does that feel >> it feels great. ation >> you, billie jean king how does that feel >> from her interview, as we celebrate the 50th anniversary of the women's tennis association. that is astounding to see how she said that, like, wow, never thought of that. >> so many women think of her that way >> thanks >>> a history-making mug shot. the picture worth a thousand words, as former president trump

meant for women in and outside of sports. >> the tennis battle of the sexes, billie jean king versus bobby rigs. >> 29-year-old billie jean king was at the top of her game in 1973, bobby rigs was 55, the self-described mail chauvinist had been ranked number one and was convinced he could beat her. 90 million people watched around the world. >> look at that crowd. >> what did you need to prove in that match 50 years ago for women? >> i knew the match was much bigger than a tennis match. i knew it was about social change. >> king shut down the doubters. beating rigs in three straight sets. >> after i won he came up to the met and said i underestimated you. >> people underestimated you a lot as one of the very early pie owe national hurricane center. >> people underestimate women in general. >> king's victory cemented her status as one of the greats. >> every day since that day someone has brought the match up. i know it fakted a lot of people. i think it helped change the hearts and minds of people to believe in women more, to help them more, to just get in there. >> people still come

in the 70s, i spoke — billie jean king in the 70s, i spoke to— billie jean king in the 70s, i spokeof the _ spoke to her for my book and one of the things she talked about, — one of the things she talked about, she knew very clearly at the lime — about, she knew very clearly at the time and still understands very— the time and still understands very clearly now, was that in order— very clearly now, was that in order to _ very clearly now, was that in order to get real change in these _ order to get real change in these metrics like pay and prize — these metrics like pay and prize money, sponsorship dollars. _ prize money, sponsorship dollars, we need to have a culture _ dollars, we need to have a culture change. it's about changing hearts and minds, not 'ust changing hearts and minds, not just trying — changing hearts and minds, not just trying to win this argument on court. that's what she did — argument on court. that's what she did with bobby riggs. i think— she did with bobby riggs. i think that speaks to what we see in— think that speaks to what we see in sports like tennis. th

[cheers and applause] >> game, set, and match to billie jean king. >> reporter: billie jean king's gritr winning the u.s. open in 1972, the tennis icon threatened to boycott the following year over equal pay, rallying her fellow female players to do the same. it worked, and the tournament became the first sporting event in the world to award the same prize money to male and female competitors. >> we have set the standard for so many other sports, especially women's sports. >> reporter: her legacy recognized at the start of this year's open by former first lady michelle obama. >> let us remember that all of this is far bigger than a champion's paycheck. this is about how women are seen and valued in this world. >> reporter: a tribute fit for a king. nancy chen, cbs news, new york. >> norah: well, billie jean king started a movement, and there is still more work to be done. that is tonight's "cbs evening news." i'm norah o'donnell. good night. ♪ ♪ . >>> at 7:00, for the first time pg&e is looking at power shut offs as fire weather approaches. >>> red flag warning leading up to a first ale

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. >> norah: and honoring billie jean king and the decades long fight for equal pay. >> women's tennisorts. >> go for it. yes! [laughter] use of ♪ ♪>> norah: good evening, and thank you for joining us on this tuesday night, and we come on the air with breaking news, and th new storm track from the national hurricane center.% hurricane idalia is now a category 2, packing sustained winds near 100 miles per hour, and it's gaining strength. the life-threatening storm set to make landfall first thing tomorrow morning, but parts of florida are already getting heavy rain and wins right now. extremely warm water temperatures in the gulf of mexico, largely from climate change and those persistent heat domes this summer, are fueling this hurricane. forecasters predict that this storm could turn catastrophic, wiping out coastal communities along a section of the gulf coast, and it could be, and it probably will become of the strongest storm to hit what's called the big bend region ever appeared and we are now learning idalia will also hit georgia and possibly south carolina as a hurricane. millio

here's cbs's nancy chen. [ applause ] >> game, set, and match to billie jean king. >> reporter:'s billie grit on the court was legendary. but it was her fight off it 50 years ago that changed sports forever. after winning the u.s. open in 1972, the tennis icon threatened to boycott the following year over equal pay, rallying her fellow female players to do the same. it worked, and the tournament became the first sporting event in the world to award the same prize money to male and female competitors. >> we have set the standard for so many other sports, especially women's sports. >> reporter: her legacy recognized at the start of this year's open by former first lady michelle obama. >> let us remember that all of this is far bigger than a champion's paycheck. this is about how women are seen and valued in this world. >> reporter: a tribute fit for a king. nancy chen, cbs news, new york. >>> that's the overnight news for this wednesday. for some of you, the news continues. for others, check back later for "cbs mornings." and remember you can follow us online anytime at cbsnews.com. report

tennis has had a bit of a head start because of the dynamic push by billie—jean king, her very famousr bobby riggs. it's about to celebrate its golden anniversary in late september, 50 years. you sometimes you need one advocate to open the door. we have a pattern in the united states of assuming that male sports are the standard, and that allowing women to play is, you know, some kind of pathway towards fairness. that sets up a real parameter that it's almost a privilege for women to step onto any court. they have to prove themselves, they have to come up with the funds. the structure has been set up early on to set up early on to support and mentor men, initially to have men bringing other men along. a big gap we have in the us, not simply the pay and equity in women's basketball that you mention, but the struggle for women coaches and women athletic directors to be in the leadership positions, to help nurture other women's sports. micaela, if i can bring you in, you have been writing about sport and feminism. sport is a place where on some level sexism appears to be tolerated where

that half century of leadership and her enduring legacy. >> the tennis battle of the sexes, billie jean king29-year-old billie jean king was at the top of her game in 1973. bobby riggs was 5. the self-described male chauvinist was ranked number one and was convinced he could beat her. 90 million people watched around the world. >> look at that crowd. >> what did you need to prove in that match 50 years ago for women? >> i knew the match was bigger than a tennis match. i knew it was about social change. >> king shut down the doubters beating rigs in three straight sets. >> after i won, he came up to the net and said i underestimated you. >> people underestimated you a lot as one of the early pioneers. >> i think people underestimate women in general. i'm sure you're unestimated, too. every day since that day someone has brought the match up. i think it did help change the minds and hearts of people, to help women just get in there. >> people still come up to you, 50 years later. >> they do. it's vivid for them. >> king holds 39 grand slam titles, it's her advocacy for equality including winni

billie jean king tweeted trans youth deserve to play and thrive.ast year when lia thomas competing as a woman became a collegiate champion in the 500 yard freestyle beating u.s. olympians. another controversy about the contribution to the local community, he wants to talk to the u.s.t.a.he says there are inequities. you have to understand usta is nonprove sxit pays 5 million to in taxes to city government and they pay for the facilities here. there is contribution from tennis back to the community. >> ainsley: absolutely, and thousands go to the stadium to watch tennis and stay in hotels around the area and contribute to restaurants and give back to the community. thank you. great to see you this morning. >> thank you. >> ainsley: chaos in new york city yesterday as protesters clash over soaring migrant crisis and mayor of los angeles says migrants are not envited after governor abbott sent a bus to the city. dan patrick will join us to react next. to invest themselves in learning? when we set out to develop acellus gold. we decided to take this ch

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open as part of a ceremony honoring billie jean king as the tournament celebrated the 50th anniversaryize money for men and women. >>> for more, download the cbs news app on your cell phone or connected tv. i'm shanelle kaul, cbs news, new york. >> announcer: this is the "cbs overnight news." >>> we are tracking an increasingly dangerous situation down in florida where two-thirds of the state is under a state of emergency, preparing for a major hurricane. within the next 36 hours, the national weather service warns tropical storm idalia will strengthen to at least a category 3. right now the system is in the caribbean, stalled over cuba. the warm waters fueling the storm on its path to slam florida's gulf coast. millions in the sunshine state are under evacuation orders. governor ron desantis telling floridians get to higher ground and stay somewhere that can handle a hurricane of this magnitude. and we're now learning that president biden spoke with the republican governor this morning, offering the help of the federal government for storm preps and cleanup. nearly 1,100 national guar

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dr morris brings up the battle of the sexes with billie jean king in the 705, and i spoke to billie jeanw very clearly at the time, and still understands very clearly now, was that in order to get real change in these metrics like pay and prize money, sponsorship dollars, we need to have culture change. it's about changing hearts and minds and notjust trying to win this argument about who is really better on the court. as she did with bobby riggs. i think that really speaks to what we see in sports like tennis, as you bring up, there are many stars who are much bigger and have bigger fan bases on the women's side, they draw bigger viewership numbers and still the sponsorship gap exists. i think that speaks to the underlying bias that still really haunts the sports industry. you mentioned changing culture there. if we look at the issue of maternity leave, that's something in the field of soccer anyway where fifa has said female players must have maternity leave. so the rules are there to protect them, but it's not necessarily the case that the culture is there as well, michaelia. absolute

billie jean king, the icon, i got a chance to speak to her yesterday.e next 100 days is the key and just imagine where we can go from here. >> absolutely right, amanda. so true. seeing all the sponsors behind the players there because that was what was really important, to get the sponsorship money into the final. >> without a doubt. what it's done for parity of female positions in sport in terms of enthusiasm is huge, that you can feel that here, it's made a big difference. >> yeah, absolutely. the quality of the sport, you can't question. >>> now to a story in the spotlight this hour -- i don't think we have time for that. >> the final spotlight. >> the return. the return of you is the spotlight. >> thank you for joining us. "early start" is next. love can get a little messy... good thihing there's resolve. love the love. resolve the mess. with new scope e squeez mouthwash concentrate,e, just add water. squeez to control the strength of your mouthwash. and find a zoneol all your own. ♪ ♪ scope ueez. bug spray works best when your family actually wears

billie jean king is here. we just got the chance to speak to her, too.alking about what a landmark tournament this has been and how as far as she sees it, the next 100 days is crucial in terms of how we use the momentum that has built over the last month to move not only women's futbol but women's sports. there is so much pride about what has played out here over the last few weeks and the fans arriving, as much as they want their sides to win, are well aware of what this tournament has done. >> it's a testament to how the women's game has progressed. look around you. look around you in the stadium tonight. there's a blend of people in the crowd. you know, it's men, it's women, it's people of all ages. the atmosphere is fantastic. long may this trajectory for the women's game continue. >> it's been excellent and everything they have got behind it is incredible. the queen of spain. >> the queen of spain. queen latisha is coming. prince william has says he will be watching from back at home. we understand will be waiting to welcome the lionesses back if th

billie jean king, this is a woman the big ten is the most lucrative sport for women.rt and said we want equal pay for women, she was making $10000 for her when in the fellow who $1,125,000, almost three times what she got. this week the men and the women's players the person who wins a big competition will take away $3 million. so the equal pay continues, just a bigger check. let's move on to the debate that sharpening on the issue of transgender athletes, there is a big disagreement, king has supported inclusion of transgender athletes competing in professional tennis but another famous women's tenor player martina said no. listen to this quote that she wrote in the london times letting men and two men compete if they change their name and take hormones and sound fair no matter how l those athletes thrw their weight around, she says rules on trans rewards sheets. the issue receiving national attention last year when transgender ncaa athlete leah thomas competed as a woman, we heard all about that. i got to tell you the big theme for this year is probably going to be

first lady michelle obama, kicked off the opening night ceremony with a stirring tribute to billie jean kingng the 50th anniversary of the first sporting event to offer equal prize money to both female and male competitors. six seated american teenager ko ko goff recovered from a 30 set loss. on the men's side novack djokovic made a winning return to new york city after he missed the u.s. open a year ago because of his refusal to take the covid vaccine. row alled to a straight set victory that will put him back at number one in the worldwide rankings. the tournament claim its first upset victim in the fourth seated who was eliminated in four sets against a 63rd ranked from spain. time now for the weather and the hurricane now bearing down on the florida coastline. let's bring in meteorologist angie lassman for a look at that. angie, great to see you. we mentioned earlier in the show, there's some historic and dangerous implications here. >> yeah, definitely. and you mention it is now a hurricane. that's as of that 5 a.m. update. really for people along the florida gulf coast especially the m

tournament begins on monday, it will be celebrating the 50th anniversary of women's tennis pioneer billy jean king'sgs in straight sets, as she was the first grand slam to award women equal prize money to me. in that same year she won three slams, the triple crown. i went to see her last night at the tennis center to talk about her incredible role in sports history. what did you need to prove in that match 50 years ago for women? >> i knew the match was much bigger than a tennis match. i knew it was about social change, and it did accomplish that, and every day since that day, if i'm out of the apartment, if i'm out in the public, every day someone has brought the match up. so i know that it affected a lot of people. so i think it did help change the hearts and minds of people to believe in women more, to help them more. to just get in there. >> people still come to you 50 years later, people remember this in. >> they do. and it's vivid for them. >> and you can catch a lot more of my interview tonight, and monday right here on msnbc. and i bought a t-shirt, this graphic, just to commemorate the incr

the best tennis players in the world competing at the billie jean king national tennis center. grand slam champion and espn analyst, rennae stubbs to give us all the things we need to know? who to watch. we are so excited to have you. so excited for this tournament to start. we'll start with the women. who's on our radar, especially as far as these really talented americans are concerned? >> yeah, absolutely. the highest ranked american is jess pegula. i'll be looking for jess to have a great tournament. i have actually predicted her to get to a final. she has this wall about the quarterfinal. she's lost in so many quarterfinals at grand slam level, but i feel like this might be the time. she had a great leadup. she won a tournament in canada which is a wta 1,000. that was her best result on tour, or equal to her best result. i think she'll have a good tournament. the court suits her and coco gauff. we cannot talk enough about coco gauff. she came out of wimbledon not looking good. confidence was not there, and she wins washington, d.c. she wins cincinnati, and then comes into

there will be at least 25 americans serving up hope to the host country at the billie jean king nationalcenter, 14 men and 11 women, more than any other nation. three seed jessica pegula is the top ranked american woman, having a strong year making the quarterfinals at two of the three grand slams so far. what will it take to go deeper? >> i just need to win a quarterfinal. [ laughter ] i mean, i'm always going to try to win every single match no matter what round it is. >> reporter: coco gauff still only 19 years old had a disappointing first round exit at wimbledon last month but dominated in the tune-up in cincinnati knocking off defending u.s. open champ iga swiatek en route to the title. as for the men, maryland native ty -- frances tiafoe captivated the crowd last year on his path to the semi-finals, stunning rafael nadal along the way. this year he's the ten seed at his favorite tournament. >> this is one of the places where i actually like enjoy playing generally. it's just fun. super fun out here. the atmosphere is crazy. >> reporter: chris eubanks also won hearts and minds with

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billie jean king proved it and billie jean king proved it wrong end.nd you, i wrong in the end. and you, i mean. right. maybe the mean. yes. all right. maybe the lioness is up against one of one of our england team. would they? how they do? but how well would they do? but that's not the point, is it? the point should the man's point is, why should the man's game be given much more fuss than the woman's game? >> gets a far bigger >> well, it gets a far bigger global audience, but it's started later. physicality it's another big tall button. course is will prince william attend the final? he's been widely criticised. if it was a blokes match, of course he would be there. everybody's saying should he attend or not? >> yeah, well i think he will. yeah.i >> yeah, well i think he will. yeah. i just i >> yeah, well i think he will. yeah. ijust i mean >> yeah, well i think he will. yeah. i just i mean we're not yeah. ijust i mean we're not being told one way or the other but it doesn't. that's not the point. mean i can imagine if point. i mean i can imagine if

those who had money to participate in that sport sport, billie jean king, didn't come along for lot of time later. i had already decided what i wanted to play by that time, there were no role models, as you all have at this time. there was no media attention to any women playing sports because there any it was frowned upon at that time by to see a female wanted to do anything that was active you saw women as models for automobile sales. that was a place where it was acceptable. i gymnastics cheerleading they were the other sports that women could participate but as time went i noticed that models around wanted to hold it and draw and do whatever with it that i could. so i really learned through that range and whatever other kids was playing with. we've come a long way from stage. we now have media attention, not the flood we'd like, but it's available. we have these instruments that can follow scores and, follow our teams and see who's doing the best and ready to enter the playoffs. it would. there's interesting story that relates to one title nine, which probably was the one major fac

club dog show have announced that next year's event will be moved from madison square garden to billie jean kingl tennis center in queens what could possibly go wrong [ laughter ] that was a monologue, everybody. we're off. [ cheers and applause we've got a great show for you tonight. he is an emmy-nominated comedian whose new film, "spirited," is out tomorrow the one, the only, tracy morgan, will be here with us tonight [ cheers and applause and he is a terrifically funny comedian, whose international music collective, "temps," just released their debut single, "no, no," which is out now james acaster will also be joining us [ cheers and applause he's a very funny man. but before we get to all that, well, the knives are out in the gop as republicans begin to bicker with each other and look for someone to blame after their party collapsed in tuesday's midterms and joe biden had the best midterm showing of any sitting president in 20 years. republicans and right-wing media are blaming everything from voting machines, to young people, to women, and perhaps, most shockingly, they're really pissed a

well, you know, i'm thinking of billie jean king. i think she blurbed it. right. and how much she spoke out at great cost to career and her financial well-being, everything else. and right now. i don't know how many of you are following the french open tennis. forgive me. i am. but there's big dispute with one of the belorussian players about whether she's speaking out enough and the ukrainian players will not shake her hand. and they're very angry it and there's a big debate going on whether this belarussian player should be saying more. it's a you know, it's a tough call, but i agree with you. i mean, i think people who have a platform should speak. i don't think they should hide behind the platform. you have a question? thank. and i think your point the speech has made certainly over 200 years ago may not have great gained traction at the time, perhaps women were sowing the seeds for further social reform. you know, ten, 20, 30 years. i'm just interested the research that you did, whether there was any how long did that change take? you know, was it uniformly?

also the night session a ceremony honoring billie jean king. this whole place is named after her. 're marking 50 years of equal prize money. that's a fight king led. as for the men, it's been 20 years since an american won a grand slam. that was andy roddick in 2003. there are 19 americans seeded this year. frances tiafoe had the big run to the semifinal. look out for him. also the return of novak djokovic. he missed last year due to pandemic travel restrictions, but he is back, as it is u.s. open. cannot wait. it's on espn starting today, guys. >> you're by lgi, la guardia. [ laughter ] we can hear the planes flying overhead. oh my gosh. great two weeks. great two weeks. coming up the college student that was killed as he tried to enter a house a few doors down from his own. what we know this morning. >>> a top soccer official has been suspended after kissing player on the lips following spain's world cup win. the latest fallout. >>> plus bob barker passing away at 99 years old. this morning we are remembering the price is right host. but first back over to ginger. >> let's get yo

. >> virginia wade and chris evert and billie jean king.an, no one said, oh, they're great for women. i'm just great. >> teams had a massive fight on her hands. do you remember when she played the man in that exhibition ? exhibition? >> well, that's probably not a good idea. but anyway, but but, but just to point, you but just to prove a point, you know, it a big, big deal know, it was a big, big deal when women fought and fought and fought any kind of fought to gain any kind of parity in tennis. >> these things take a long >> and these things take a long time to change. >> no , now we're getting >> but no, now we're getting there with women's football and women's isn't it women's rugby as well. isn't it just football? and we should be appreciating them as sportspeople, not just the footy hills of that. >> okay, okay. >> okay, okay. >> we're not there yet. >> we're not there yet. >> we're not there yet. >> we are not there yet. okay >> we are not there yet. okay >> well, you think this is going to bring up because, i mean, one of things tha

. >> virginia wade and chris evert and billie jean king.an, no one said, oh, they're great for women. i'm just great. >> teams had a massive fight on her hands. do you remember when she played the man in that exhibition ? exhibition? >> well, that's probably not a good idea. but anyway, but but, but just to point, you but just to prove a point, you know, it a big, big deal know, it was a big, big deal when women fought and fought and fought any kind of fought to gain any kind of parity in tennis. >> these things take a long >> and these things take a long time to change. >> no , now we're getting >> but no, now we're getting there with women's football and women's isn't it women's rugby as well. isn't it just football? and we should be appreciating them as sportspeople, not just the footy hills of that. >> okay, okay. >> okay, okay. >> we're not there yet. >> we're not there yet. >> we're not there yet. >> we are not there yet. okay >> we are not there yet. okay >> well, you think this is going to bring up because, i mean, one of things tha

again, i think you look you go back to billie jean king's day when she was billie jean moffat and tryingt the misogyny of the men who ran tennis. and it took a long time to make that point clear, didn't it ? point clear, didn't it? >> yeah. i mean, it took a long time to ban cigarettes from sport and it's taken a long time to ban gambling from sport. it takes a long time to get this message . that's one of message across. that's one of the appalling things about it. but the message will eventually it will get across the penny will eventually drop and someone will eventually drop and someone will do something about it. but it will take a time . it will take a long time. >> good to see you >> okay, harry, good to see you this morning. yeah, thanks very much indeed . interesting. wider much indeed. interesting. wider points on that. i think . and on points on that. i think. and on the kiss itself , john's been in the kiss itself, john's been in touch and says this story has made me feel very uncomfortable when my wife's friends come to our house, i always greet them with a kiss on the lips.