. >> billie earl johnson. : charlie, who started out as a bodyguard for billie earl, says billie and "mr. john" tried to get him to shoot nancy howard. >> this [ bleep ] man, he tried to get me to kill that woman. >> did he really? 'cause he -- >> do you want the truth? >> yeah, i want the truth. >> you got that recorder on? yeah. >> i gotta have the truth. >> yeah, you're [ bleep ] right that son of a bitch tried to get me to kill that woman. >> reporter: now out of jail, charlie told us that sometimes john transferred money between bank accounts and sometimes john met charlie and billy and handed over packages of cash at a hamburger joint or gas station, and john was always pressing them to get the hit done. >> i mean he was, "hey, do you think you can get it done now? what's the chances?" you know, "where are y'all at?" billie would tell him, "you know, hey, we're -- we're about an hour away. we'll call you when we get close." "okay, well, call me when you've got confirmation." you know, "i want -- i want th