. >> billie earl johnson. reporter: charlie, who started out as a bodyguard for billie earl, says billie and mr. john tried to get him to shoot nancy howard. >> this [ bleep ] man, he tried to get me to kill that woman. >> did he really? because he -- >> do you want the truth? >> yeah, i want the truth. >> you got that recorder on? >> yeah. i've got to have the truth. >> yeah, you're [ bleep ] right that son of a bitch tried to get me to kill that woman. >> reporter: now out of jail, charlie told us that sometimes john transferred money between bank accounts and sometimes john met charlie and billie and handed over packages of cash at a hamburger joint or gas station, and john was always pressing them to get the hit done. >> i mean, he was, hey, do you think you can get it done now? what's the chances? where are you all at? billie would tell him, you know, we're about an hour away. we'll call you when we get close. okay. well, call me when you got confirmation. i want this thing done. and i was like, damn, wha