and billy buck promises to deliver the foal. and he had a chance to besides but the foal is breach. a or he could smash the mother and deliver the foal. and had i told my son this was a book i read when i was younger and it was a moral ambiguous situation, i can't remember what he said about it, but it definitely provoked conversation about difficult choices. [laughte [laughter] >> okay. we're all going, oh, we're laughing about the pony. >> let's see, there's three books that stand out for me developmentally, of course, "the black stallion" and 13 books after them. the black stallion and the black stallion mare and i read all of them and i was convinced i would move to an island and be a horse woman and i'm still trying to get there. let's see, oh, junior high, that was elementary school. junior high, i distinctly remember reading a collection of already rain hemsbury's plays and biography, it was called then to be young, gifted and a title hideous for that book. that book i still have and i just-- that book was so important to me because it was the first time i read a book by a bl