for example, have you seen billy elliot, for example? blind casting must exist for that role, for that lead role, because it's so hard to find a boy who can do all those things, having that skill set. and to restrict it to a certain ethnic group is... you know, you're just basically centering on, "okay, he has to be white to play this role," when there are so many other talented kids who could very well do it. so i think they open that role to whomever could play it realistically. and no one even looks twice. >> hinojosa: so there's been progress made. >> i'd like to think so. i'd like to think so. i mean, the last production on broadway that i was in was les mis. and the first first production you pretty much had to be pasty white to be in the show,. >> hinojosa: did you have to audition for that as well? >> no, i didn't have to. >> hinojosa: they just... a phone call? >> they just said, "do you want to do it" i'm like, "sure, i'd love to play eponine." >> hinojosa: wow. >> and then when they asked me to play fantine for the revival, i