he is the billy graham of iran. in 1979 he and his wife for mayor radical muslims on the streets of iran. and in 1979 with millions of other muslims, they were shouting death to america, death to america. a little time passed and he thought maybe not death to america quite yet. we would like to go to graduate school in southern california. [laughter] the promised land. so, amazingly they got visas, got accepted to school and they came and then they started going through culture shock and whether shot in food shock. they felt disoriented. their marriage started breaking up and then his wife thought, met some christian wimmer who invited her to go to church. and she became a follower of jesus christ. her husband was not that happy with her. as a radical american, that to america kind of guy. but he thought, she is nicer now. maybe i ought to go visit this church and find out what the heck is going on. so she goes-- he goes and becomes a follower of jesus christ. [applause] and, he now has a television ministry, and sa

. >> what were the roles of norman vincent and billy graham? >> they were actually crucial as part of nixon's strategy. graham moved to europe in the summer but continue to hold meetings in europe of leading protestant evangelical leaders strategizing about how we can beat this catholic i. one of the things that came up was to host a meeting in washington, d.c., and early september at the mayflower hotel, one of the large hotels there, and peel chaired the meeting. it was a secret meeting. 150 clergy were there and they strategize the whole day about how to plot against kennedy. them media infiltrator that meeting and then there was an impromptu press conference afterward that just absolutely exploded. at that point and john kennedy was on his first campaign trip in california, which was going abysmally. and it went off like a bombshell when the kennedys lord that people like billy graham and were organizing millions of protestants around the country to vote against him. kennedy actually had an informant inside that meeting who told him and tol