>> joining me to talk about this vote, and reverend billy graham's potential influence, is co-editor eric. good to see you, eric. >> hey, fred, how are you? >> i'm good. does reverend graham, does he get certain voters' attention enough to actually influence their vote by speaking out on this? >> yeah, a lot of folks in north carolina today woke up in their local newspapers and saw a full page ad from billy graham. of course, he's a longtime north carolina resident. if you go in charlotte, drive along the billy graham parkway, also home to the billy graham library which draws lots of tourists. he has a very specialist relationship with that home state of his in north carolina. i think this will have an impact. to what degree, we'll see. this is an extraordinarily close vote. there's been a lot of early voting. i talked to an lgbt activist today and he told me, there are a lot of people going out and feeling cautiously optimistic that this bill will be defeated. their organization has poured millions of dollars to fight this. but when you have a person with the gravitas, billy graham i

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billy graham, pastor to the presidents and bill clinton, on opposite sides of an amendment on the ballot tuesday. even though north carolina has a law against gay marriage, it is only state in the southeast that hasn't passed a constitutional amendment, which billy graham and a newspaper ad and his son are now advocating. >> i want you to take a stand for god's definition of marriage and that's between a man and a woman. >> reporter: but opponents say the amendment is poorly written and could strip unmarried heterosexuals of some of their rights. >> amendment one could take away protections for domestic violence victims. >> reporter: so former president bill clinton's recorded telephone ad is being dialed to north carolina voters. >> the real effect the law will be to hurt families and drive away jobs. >> reporter: the north carolina proposal is expected to pass. but this debate in the country is far from over. the obama team will attempt to keep the vice president's comments from becoming a campaign issue. daich david? >> david kerley, thank you. >>> we're going to turn now to the race

this is the billy graham who talked to his close friend richard nixon about what the jews are doing to this country who said during the height of the vietnam war that we're going to fire upon the earth and just recently opposed equal treatment for gay people in his home state of north carolina we take a more compassionate view a more caring view and that's what the national day of reason is really about in this special. i would emphasize that what i write about my book is the many many ways in american law today where real people are harmed religious and nonreligious by religious bias in american law at the federal and at the state level well i mean let's let's expand upon that a little bit what do you mean by the way people are harmed we've been doing a lot of coverage on this show on a lot of the legislation that's being passed in states across the country which i find incredibly harmful if you want to talk about restricting access to women when it comes to their reproductive rights right when it comes to the health services that they can actually access but but that's just one thing

it was one of the great strengths of the billy graham era. the sense ability that transcended kind of fraction my denomination will ?rit off from yours and fight the other denomination. forces that work in the american even gel calls. i think that, you know, property accidents in particular have a tendency to push nondenomination nation lymph too for a. there is, you know, the challenge for all of us but i think particularly for e van gel calls. what tuesday it mean when your, you know, our churches christmasmatic pastor is gone. what is our nondenomination church look like 100 years from now. i think that is a place where, you know, even gel calls might necessarily they -- but 2,000 years. >> okay. >> front row. amanda. -- >> wait for the -- >> i had a question about you spoke of kind of what you saw as the strength of various institutions and mostly referring, my situation to catholicism and evangelicalism, in earlier days, and how you saw it hollowed out in the '60s '70s onward and the problems that you pat robertson on the protestant side

billy graham urged support. u.s. experts trying to determine if the latest al qaeda bomb could have slipped through airport security. the device contained no metal and showed a new level of sophistication. it was seized by the cia after a tip from the saudis. al qaeda had dispatch add suicide bomber from yemen. he was meant to board a flight to the united states with that device under his clothes. authorities leave alaseery was behind the plot and mind the so-called underwear bombing attempt in 2009. >> the plot itself indicates that these terrorists keep trying, they keep trying to device more terrible ways to kill innocent people. and it's a reminder as to why we have to remain vigilant. >> something that is disturbing, this is a homeless man, yelling, pleading for help as he's kicked, punched, tasered by police officers. that man died last july, five days after the beating. one of the fullerton, california officers is charged with second-degree murder, another is charged with manslaughter and excessive force. the

the example i like to use is the difference between the style of political engagement of the billy grahamt martin luther king in the midcentury era and two men who in certain ways for potential heirs, pat robertson and jesse jackson and 1880s and 1990s. graham and certainly king were deeply engaged in political debates and issues and so on. but they were engaged in a manner for the most part unless a later and tanks career and less so for a grand jury in president be, but overall were engaged in a way that did not feel partisan and nearly archaeological. the potential successors actually ran for president at their respective parties. the mission of the preacher seemed to become the democratic nominee for president and i think that shift has been planed itself across the last two decades and explains a lot of why the mainline churches lost membership in the 60s and 70s because there is a feeling that transform themselves in an effort to remain relevant and liberal politics. let's are interested, why would you get up early on sunday morning to go to church. you could just go vote for a demo

. >> but at the same time, evangelist billy graham ran a full page ad in 14 newspapers across the stateg people to vote for the amendment. it read at 39 i never thought we would have to debate the definition of marriage. the bible is clear, god's definition of marriage is between a man and woman. i want it urge my fellow north carolinians to vote for this marriage amendment on tuesday, may 8th. which clearly doesn't really say what the entire amendment is about, governor. >> al, i have great respect for billy graham. he is a personal friend of my family, my husband and i. we love him and love what we has done for america. but on this issue, it is not clearly told in his letter, this advertisement. this is not about gay marriage. this is about civil rights for individuals. and we already have that law on the books. it is absolutely unnecessary and this kind of disinformation permeated the fabric of north carolina. >> let me tirn to other bills you have vetoes. some overwritten by republicans. but one permanently stopped was the voter id bill. something that we talk about a lot on this sh

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you basically move from billy graham on one hand to fill ostein who says billy graham calls it a day d joel ostein. >> you talk about the sort of reverend graham or martin luther king as a more aspirational or demanding form of christianity? >> sure. >> how did we get from that to where we are today? >> sex and money, i think, is a youthful way of thinking. you go back to the new testament, right, you go back to the figure of jesus, you have a strong new testament emphasis on chastity before marriage and mon monogamy after marriage that doesn't fit that neatly, and you have the great wealth that doesn't fit very well with a very material sticistic society the left doesn't want to think about the sexual side, the sort of personal responsibility side of the new testament message, and the right doesn't necessarily want to think about what jesus had to say about wealth and money. so people on both sides sort of fit a jesus to their own premises rather than confronting a jesus who challenges them, you might say. >> is this both a failure of the traditional institutions to hold fast or adap

the reverend billy graham has taken out a full page ad in support of the amendment. it to everybody because it does get attention. it says at 93 i never thought we would have to debate the definition of marriage. the bible is clear. god's definition of marriage is between a man and a woman. randy, you're the grandson of a very well known, well beloved televangelist. do you think religious leaders will ever, ever come to accept that lgbt people deserve the right to marry? >> i do because in fact today there are many religious leaders who already support lbgt relationships, many rabbis, pastors, priests throughout the country who if two men or two women are in love and come to them asking to be married they are very happy to consecrate their marriage. so it's already happening. when it will be all churches i don't know. >> why do you think in your opinion have religious leaders from denominations, all denominations been able to evolve on certain aspects of the bible, out dated aspects of religious teaching. however, they can't seem to embrace the lgbt community as a lo

. >> evangelist billy graham has. >>> california voters can begin casting absentee ballots today for the june primary. county l departments across the state will begin sending out the june 5th ballots today. voters can mail them in or drop them off in specific locations. the last day to request a vote by mail ballot -- they did so by mail. >>> 4:48 is time. muslims will be celebrated at the state capitol today. it's the first ever muslim day in sacramento. muslims will meet with legislatures to discuss issues of interest to their community like civil liberties and immigrants rights. object i haves include educating californians about the culture. >>> more law enforcement officers were on hand for the cinco demicro festival. the goal was to insure yesterday's celebration was a safe one. the santa clara sheriffs department says historically the festival draws gang members. that's why they brought in parole and probation officers. as a precaution private security padded down some people. women had their bags checked. >> i think it's something that is necessary. you never know what peopl

. >> on the other side evangelist billy graham took out full page ads in 14 newspapers urging peopleinition of marriage is between a man and a woman. joining us is reverend william barber, pastor of green leaf christian church, he has been an opponent of the measure for months now. thank you for joining us. first of all, i want to say the news conference with the clergy that were assembled around the state essentially that video has gone viral. a lot of people watching and in that you made the point here that this amendment you do not believe is about whether or not you believe in same-sex marriage, the morality of it but it's about whether or not the majority can determine the rights of the minority. can you explain your position? >> thank you so much, suzanne. yes. the naacp, the 102 branches in the state and our people's coalition, early on we said that this matter was not a matter of constitution but a matter of conscience, that we should not try to put discrimination, hate and division into the framework of our constitution. the reality is when you look at who is behind this, th

billy graham, pastor to the presidents, and bill clinton, on opposite sides of an amendment on the ballot tuesday. even though north carolina has a law against gay marriage, it's the only state in the southeast that hasn't passed a constitutional amendment which billy graham in a newspaper ad and his son are now advocating. >> i want you to take a stand for god's definition of marriage and that's between a man and a woman. >> reporter: but opponents say this amendment is so poorly written it could strip unmarried heterosexuals of some of their rights. >> amendment one could take away protections for domestic violence victims. >> reporter: former president bill clinton's recorded telephone ad is being dialed in north carolina voters. >> the real effect of the law will be to hurt families and drive away jobs. >> reporter: that north carolina proposal is expected to pass, but the debate in this country is far from over. the obama team will attempt to keep its president's comments from becoming a campaign issue. david kerley, abc news, washington. >> thank you david. >>> in other news now, tw

billy graham. from polygram to our vietnam -- ourbilly graham and theird to vietnam veterans and their families. i visited with many of you in vietnam and southeast asia. sharing a message of hope and salvation through a hope and faith in jesus christ. during that dramatic time, i talked with you, prayed with you, and prayed for your families at home while you probably answered your nation's call. the years have blown by and we are all older now. at the age of 93, it is not possible for me to travel to be with you in person for the memorial day ceremony. i would like to take this opportunity to thank you again for your service. i will never forget my time visiting with troops, which i counted to be a great honor and privilege. we all need to look at the thousands of names carved on the vietnam memorial to realize the loss for so many families. for those of you who lost their father, brother, sister, mother, husband, or wife, or friends in vietnam are in the years that have passed since then, are th

billy graham was featured in a full-page up in ad supporting that amendment. >>> he reached across the aisle and it cost him his job. the tea party is now claiming a major victory in indiana for now. yesterday six-term senator richard lugar lost the primary republican election to richard murdoch, a favorite of tea party supporters. he'll face joe donnelly in november. until this year the 80-year-old lugar never faced a primary challenge. after his defeat, lugar was praised by president obama for his service in the senate and his willingness to, quote, reach across the aisle and get things done. >>> as expected it was a clean sweep for mitt romney in tuesday's presidential primaries. romney won the indiana, north carolina, and west virginia contests. with all but one of his primary challengers out of the race, the outcome was never really in doubt. romney now essentially has a free ride to the g.o.p. nomination. >>> maryland police are still looking for a wannabe cop after he robbed a woman in montgomery county about a week ago. >> as ken molestina tells us, police have now released a s

several religious leaders campaigned for the amendment, among them 93-year-old evangelist billy graham. also this week, gop presidential hopeful mitt romney reaffirmed his opposition to gay marriage and civil unions. romney, who is mormon, is this weekend's commencement speaker at the evangelical liberty university. >>> some conservative catholics arurging georgetowuniversity to cancel a graduation address by health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius. sebelius, who is catholic, was invited to participate in a commencement awards ceremony on may 18th. opponents say she should not be allowed to speak at the jesuit school because of her support for abortion rights and her role in issuing the mandate requiring health insurance providers to cover birth control free of charge. these stands put her at odds with chuh leership. >>meanwhile this week, pope benedict the xvi renewed his call for america's catholic colleges and universities to ensure theological orthodoxy. the pope told bishops visiting from the us that the academic institutions must affirm their fidelity to the church'

and the bushes had invited the reverend billy graham to join them. in the camis. this was in the saudi desert on thanksgiving day before the start of operation desert storm. i think mrs. bush was on her fifth thanksgiving dinner at that time. and then once the campaign started it was non-stop. here we were at a beauty salon in new hampshire, and that is -- that is not helen thomas under the hair dryer. i know it looks like her. i'm not that cool. greeting well wishers in pennsylvania, bowling for votes in ohio. and on the campaign plane with marvin bush who is always fun to have around. here with marvin also. we were on a whistle stop tour through georgia. this was several weeks before the election. and after the third debate, after the crowds all come around and everybody shakes hands and takes pictures, mrs. bush bee-lined for ross perot because he had made some accusations that the campaign had maligned his family and his daughters and mrs. bush wanted to set the record straight, that that just was not true. here she is with her newly adopted son, soon to be ad

reverend billy graham is among those urging passage. bill clinton is against it. president obama's vague stance on the issue is coming under renewed scrutiny after two cabinet members spoke out. first, vice president joe biden. and now, the nation's education secretary. >> do you believe that same-sex men and women, should be able to get legally married in the united states? >> yes, i do. >> on the republican side, mitt romney does favor a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, saying the policy should be set federally, not by the states. >>> and romney got an important endorsement overnight, as republicans continue to close ranks. rick santorum officially endorsed his former rival. he said after romney visited him in pittsburgh last week, santorum was in impressed with romney's understanding of the key issues. and he said to keep pressure on romney to hire more conservatives. >>> john edwards intended to create a $50 million foundation for himself after losing presidential bid in 2008, according to testimony in his corruption trial. a one-time friend claim

the reverend billy graham has endorsed a ballot initiative saying on his website "the bible is cleararriage." others, like president bill clinton, opposed the measure. listen. >> the real effect of the law is not to keep the traditional definition of marriage. we've already done that. the real effect of the law will be to hurt families and drive away jobs. north carolina can do better. again, this is bill clinton asking you to please vote against amendment one. >> but some argue the amendment is far more complicated and would have broader consequences. >> reporter: on tuesday north carolina voters will be making a big decision at the polls. the decision to change the state's constitution. amendment one would make marriage between one man and one woman the only recognized domestic legal union in the state. >> the reason we have to put it in other state constitution is that half a dozen other states have by judicial -- had a handful of judges change the laws of those states. >> it's something several other states have done, but amendment one goes a step further. not only would it ban s

and that's what so silly about this claim of mel gibson and frankly of some others including billy graham who's claimed when he saw the film he felt like he was a bystander, like it was a real tv documentary or something. this is clearly a film that comes out of the visions of a lot o people, mel gibson one of them, and this emmer rick person another. >> this goes actually a little bit further, this piece written by o'malley, john w. o'malley, a jesuit. he said the emmer rick-brentano papers are perhaps best treated as devout fiction or well intentioned frauds. that's how her original writings evolved and were added to. so that has to be said in connection with this. >> that's right, he's drawing from all sorts of resources, he's drawing from med evil passion plays, i think he's drawing from the tradition of the horror movie, i think he's drawing from the action adventure movies, there's all sorts of sources that we see here. >> let me give you a real question here on what image may be emerging. some viewers have said that the brutalization of death and jesus leave, for revenge, could we

church leaders, reverend billy graham used their influence to support this ban. six states and the district of columbia do allow same sex marriages. maryland is waiting to see if it will go to the ballot this november. maryland governor martin o'malley tweeted, disapin tpoin to hear about north carolina but confident it will prevail in maryland. a gallup poll shows that americans as a whole are split on this issue. jim, doreen. >> al qaeda's would-be bomber worked for the cia. the informant turned over the bomb intact. al qaeda wanted to blow up a u.s. airliner. being analyzed at quantico in virginia. designed to fool airport security. the secretary of homeland security believes new security measures would have caught it. >> in today's date with all the various lay we have it would not have succeeded. >> white house officials tell nbc news the bomb never got near an airplane. a gun hidden inside a stuffed mickey mouse, ammunition and firing pin inside a stuffed bunny and teddy bear. tsa screeners made the discovery in a buy's backpack in providence rhode island.

noor who heads up an evangelical protestant church there- a world renowned figure on the level of billy graham in that part of the country, and to hear his struggle. i'll tell you- well, let me set it up this way, to show you that, again, how the conflicts exist in a place where you have one dominant religion and then minority religions. we walked in to meet this fellow and it was the end of our trip, and we were not aware of what a prestigious person this was, what a major world religious leader this was. and so we stumble into his office, we're nice enough, he's very polite, he allows us to set up, and we're just getting ready for the interview, and this man, this religious leader, this author of hundreds of books, suddenly breaks down into tears- he starts crying right there. and we're going, you know, "what? what's going on?" well, it turns out he'd just received a phone call, and a muslim who had converted to christianity- and as many of you may know, that can call, in some instances, for a death sentence- a muslim who was trying to leave the country, one of his follows had just been pick

his relationship with billy graham -- obviously billy graham is an evangelical but not a fundamentalist but very different task of mine and graham gets burned by his political involvement with nixon and felt her and really pulled in, but he was never out that she would never mistake fawell for graham. graham did not talk about the political issues the way the falwell did at all, never at any time in his career. to combat duty are seasoned account the question, i will say i think the left is a bad job at reaching out to bishops in my experience to the catholic last, i say that five times a week, but i bet five times a month heavy but to your bishop have you asked for a meeting? in the 1980s, out of nowhere these three franciscan want to give ronald reagan the bread of life. but enough is the bread of life. it's a little statue or some thing. silly couple phone calls are made. reagan goes from one reading or another, studs in the hallway, picture. within a month of her friends this can newspaper, magazine on the ground world has a picture of ronald reagan given the bread of life. try that

his relationship with billy graham -- obviously billy graham is an evangelical but not a fundamentalist but very different task of mine and graham gets burned by his political involvement with nixon and felt her and really pulled in, but he was never out that she would never mistake fawell for graham. graham did not talk about the political issues the way the falwell did at all, never at any time in his career. to combat duty are seasoned account the question, i will say i think the left is a bad job at reaching out to bishops in my experience to the catholic last, i say that five times a week, but i bet five times a month heavy but to your bishop have you asked for a meeting? in the 1980s, out of nowhere these three franciscan want to give ronald reagan the bread of life. but enough is the bread of life. it's a little statue or some thing. silly couple phone calls are made. reagan goes from one reading or another, studs in the hallway, picture. within a month of her friends this can newspaper, magazine on the ground world has a picture of ronald reagan given the bread of life. try that

his relationship with billy graham -- obviously billy graham is an evangelical but not a fundamentalist but very different task of mine and graham gets burned by his political involvement with nixon and felt her and really pulled in, but he was never out that she would never mistake fawell for graham. graham did not talk about the political issues the way the falwell did at all, never at any time in his career. to combat duty are seasoned account the question, i will say i think the left is a bad job at reaching out to bishops in my experience to the catholic last, i say that five times a week, but i bet five times a month heavy but to your bishop have you asked for a meeting? in the 1980s, out of nowhere these three franciscan want to give ronald reagan the bread of life. but enough is the bread of life. it's a little statue or some thing. silly couple phone calls are made. reagan goes from one reading or another, studs in the hallway, picture. within a month of her friends this can newspaper, magazine on the ground world has a picture of ronald reagan given the bread of life. try that

constitution amendment one banning same sex marriage the issue national attention a evangelist supports billy grahamr president bill clinton says it will hurt families and drive away business. the amendment is needed cannot overturn. batt but this leaves the decision with the voters instead of a handful of judges. if the amendment passes your daughter will lose health insurance polls show likely to be approved 54 percent in favor and 40 percent opposed. past two days to members of obama administration cannot in support of gay marriage today education secretary says he believes gay marriage should be legal and vice-president joe biden said absolutely comfortable. president obama stopped short of a endorsement comfortable with same-sex couples entitled to the same rights civil liberties as other americans. prince harry visited british military personnel trip to washington. troupes participating warrior games veterans compete. third in line for the british throne in washington d.c. humanitarian of leadership award for work with injured service members first trip to united states since taking part in an

bill clinton, billy graham. varying opinion, but i'm wondering how long it will be before we hear it from the top. keep at it. >> knock on the door. >> you're a smart one. thank you, work. so here's something, a terrorist linked to the bombing of the u.s.s. cole, killed in a drone attack. drones. drones, why so many drones? and did bin laden know something when he said it's killing us, folks, literally and figuratively. also prince harry being honored for his work with soldier. he's attending an event in washington. we want to take you live. there's a reason the flashbulbs go wild when a he's in town. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ sighs ] [ bird chirps ] [ bird squawks ] ♪ [ bird screeching ] ♪ [ elevator bell dings ] [ sighs ] how mad is she? she kicked me out. but i took the best stuff. i'll get the wrench. ♪ [ male announcer ] kohler's tresham collection. life. with a twist. ♪ >>> this was the year 2000, 11 months before 9/11. and this was the major terror attack. look in the middle, brings back bad memories for a lot of peo

billy graham's. can we pray?venly father, you have blessed this great nation and raised sons and daughters willing to serve. we echo the sentiments and prayers of billy gramm. in this hallowed place, we are conscious to journey with respect, honor, and inspiration. we are taught to reflect. comforting the families of the fallen, soothing the paint in their comrades, who improvised how for the veterans for homeless. we have made the ultimate sacrifice in the defense of freedom and are internally grateful, convinced that we will always remember. amen. >> please be seated. please be seated. ladies and gentleman, please join me in welcoming a truly heroic american. vietnam veteran and medal of honor recipient, brian thackery, reading the presidential proclamation on the 50th anniversary of the vietnam war. [applause] >> thank you. commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the vietnam war, by the president of the united states of america -- proclamation. we have served the 50th anniversary of the vietnam war and reflec

i was surprised about billy graham. were you? >> caller: i was. ulling all of the strings. billy hasn't spoken for himself in a couple of years now. >> it is a ban on a ban. it is likeilling an ant with an iron. it is dead dead! >> you're not dead enough. >> bury it, freeze it, chop it up. still not dead enough. >> kill it. >> stephanie: matthew in asheville, north carolina. hi matt. >> caller: hey mama. calling from the cesspool of sin. >> stephanie: doing the backstroke in that cesspool of sin in asheville north carolina. >> caller: i figured you needed to hear from some of us redneck hillbillies on this issue. it is ridiculous. i've told you i'm straight but i don't hate. that's the motto we should have adopted here. and the sad thing is that i'm sure that a lot of democrats voted for the amendment as well which you know just purely out of ignorance. >> stephanie: matt can you answer that question i just asked vicky. the proponents, what was the point of it? i don't understand. gay marriage is already illegal. this is now taking away protections

and even reverend billy graham who we respect very much out here in north carolina, has gotten into thenning in 14 north carolina newspapers this weekend, saying this is what god wants. he wants marriage to be defined between one man and one woman. do we want god in our government anymore? because like i said we're the only southern state that does not have this on our constitution, and it's really irritating. >> a lot of people talking about this reverend shawn harris who is from fayetteville who cold his congregation to punch their gay children. he said that's what jesus today. >> they do not want to talk about the new testament. i cannot find a person that can give a civil justification for this amendment. i bring up what about what jesus said? they don't want to talk about part two of that book only part one. and it's very frustrating, because i think christianity is a lot more than that. >> the "new york times" wrote a peace on this literally called bigotry on the ballot. this enshrines this obvious constitution. when you look at the later pew poll 47% are in favor of marriage equa