the reverend billy graham. graham: blessed is the team that will lead america to a new day. we pray this humbly in the name of the prince of peace, who shed his blood on the cross that men might have internal life. -- eternal life. gigi: the times he got into a little bit of trouble as people might've read. that mr. nixon use the language that he did that came out on the tapes and it was very hurtful to my daddy. he had known him for very long time and it was a big surprise to him and hurtful when all of that came out on those tapes. he was also very close to the bushes. he went to kennebunkport several times on vacation with them and enjoyed their family. he also enjoyed president johnson. president johnson was quite a colorful character and he was down at the ranch quite often. i would guess that he was more that he was invited probably more often to those events of the white house. graham: and don't forget another thing, jesus belongs to africa as much as he does to europe and asia. he was born in that part of the world that touches africa and asia and europe, and jesus w

about billy graham after he died. some i think brutally unfair to his legacy and race but they were pretty good. billy graham, there is a famous picture that gets created out there, he desegregated his revival meetings and so forth but was never a strong advocate. he never did anything in a positive way to combat racism, so this is a big hurdle and one of the issues in the next 20 years or so that they will havee to deal with, one of the most important. yes, sir. >> being jewish, i don't carry an evangelical card. [laughter] a couple things, it seems in the new testament jesus is all about helping the poor and caring about the community and nonmaterial. for the life of me, maybe nobody understands this by the 81% of the evangelicals seem so harsh against programs for the poor but those in the individual morality that surprises me a also how would you define evangelical? what happens to people that are not christian, how do you evangelicals view without? they are the movement and other theologians the most famous defin

i am the eldest daughter of ruth and billy graham. of being introduced as the eldest and oldest, especially the older i get one they love the the longest. daddy was in charlotte until the day he passed away. he felt himself a farmer's boy from charlotte. he never felt himself anything more than that. my granddaddy had a dairy farm down there, so my daddy grew up milking cows in the morning before he went to school, and when he came back from school, the same thing. when he first discovered the calling us when he went to bible school. he accepted christ as savior when he went to an evangelist meeting as a teenager. he went to college, and then he was in tennessee at that time. you know, he got sick one day, he had the flu, he was not feeling well, and he did not really feel like he was getting what he wanted at that particular college, so he saw a brochure about a bible school in florida, and he solved time to use, -- he saw home trees, orange trees. we are alike. we both like warm weather. he went to florida bible college. he found hi

at the death of billy graham, many journalists would ask me where will the next billy graham come from, and my response would always be the next billy graham may be passed out drunk in a frat house right now. or the next augustine may be running a planned parenthood clinic right now. god increasingly takes every unlikely people, chuck coulson, c.s. lewis, and turns those people around very suddenly. a mission that sees itself in light of the cross will not be intimidated to define sin, for there can be no grace where there are no sins to forgive. at the same time, will conduct itself with the sort of kindness that the scripture says led us to repentance in the first place. a church that is confronted with the cross in its own sin and with the love of god for the world will then do precisely what jesus modeled and what the apostle paul mandated to deal gently with those who are on the outside, while holding high standards of accountability for the doctrinal and personal integrity of those on the inside, first corinthians five. rather than is often the case, the reverse. cruciform evange

even billy graham, so close to one of the last -- so close to nixon, he was one of the last to confront him. there is a great biography that suggests while everyone else thought nixon was guilty, billy graham was supporting him. but today's evangelicals don't learn that lesson and how that damages their witness to the world. host: you wrote in the book he later regretted that. guest: he did. as he reflected back on his life, he said that was one of my greatest mistakes, cozying up to political power. host: donald trump was a winner, and he managed to convince american evangelicals he could score a culture war victory on their behalf. he would shelter them from mexican strangers threatening white evangelical america. he could protect them from muslims preparing to kill them and their families. he would defend them from political correctness propagated by the liberal media. he would deliver the supreme court. guest: evangelicals have been motivated by fear or a longtime. they always believed they have been the guardians of american culture. in some ways, they have been for much of its his

he was like the revivalist you know, billy graham, come forward and you'll be save and i suppose i'deen speaking so positively about my o perience of being an openly gay man that he felt this was e moment for himo join in. and he came out. of course, we see a huge reception. i've had a better case. i was at a school once and say, you know, everyone's worried about coming out because they're worried about people's reaction. i said there are gay teachers in your school n who care not come out because they're frightened your what rction will be. that's why there isn't a singlem openly gay in your school here. >> a man stood up and said i'm staff here and i'm gay which he never said before. kand 1300 kids l around and applauded hill. that was his coming out pe ence. total acceptance. >> you're the first openly gay man to be knighted by the queen. >> seco, second. the first was angus wilson, the nevillt. >> but mou were the first openly gay famous person. >> well, that was signf the times. my year as an actor which was thout to be worthy of knighthood could not be. i pedded by the fact th

jimmy carter who he beat in the 1980 election and i'm fascinated that gary wills in april after billy grahamas close to you passed away, was doing a book review in the new york times about jimmy carter's latest book saying when reverend graham died there were all these stories about presidents he had been within jimmy carter with someone he didn't know and may have expressed surprise evangelicals voted last year in overwhelming numbers for a religious president, no reason for surprise, the religious right has long been not religion but ideology. you talk about the president's agenda. it is more about ideology than religion? >> certainly. we don't look to washington dc to bring the bible to the united states. that is the job of the church of jesus christ. government has a responsibility to maintain order and preserve citizens freedom. that is exactly what donald trump is doing. he is fulfilling his god-given responsibility securing the border and keeping the nation safe, the most religious liberty oriented president we ever had and that is why evangelicals continue to support this president a

three agreeable ministries came out of california and they are the billy graham association, he lost his crusade out of 1950's, jamesthe kennedy and bill bright launching campus crusade for christ out of california. california is a place where the seeds are planted deep for conservative values and the christian faith. will beope that they revival springing out and i can see some of the fruit this morning. there was a man that embodied kindness and conservative values as he approached me coming the opposite direction. i was walking doing pretty swag in my crisp suit about to go to the summit and he stopped as he was coming my way and said, excuse me, sir, may i? and i said yes? and he said your fly is open. i said thank you. i kept walking and i thought my yes, there is hope, there is one is in california who committed to kindness, christian charity, and conservative values . there is hope for california. and the flight here was great, i sat next to two teenage girls coming back from hawaii and we had a great time, i was able to share the gospel with them. i am sharing the gospel and

i'm interested, searching for an answer, as billy graham is. >> at this time priests and people of the to them. people get very angry because now talking about religion, belief system. you play with somebody's belief system and their religion, now you got a problem. and they got the powers that be crazy. shut him up, you've got to silence him. >> someone saw lenny bruce in club in chicago making jokes about the pope or something, and two detectives went on stage because of that remark and handcuffed him in front of the audience and took him away. you can't even imagine that today. >> they found it was obscene enough to put me in a jail cell for the last 24 hours. thing i wish they would do is tell me what words were obscene? >> in court a cop is reciting what he thinks my father is talking about. when my father had the microphone doing this, he was imitating priest doing holy water in the pews. cops wrote down it looked like he was pretending masturbation. it got fierce, really fierce. >> there were funny great comedians and blue but they chose him to make some ridiculous point. they t

and i'm fascinated by the fact that -- billy graham passed away. was a book review in the new york times about carter's latest book and it was about faith. when reverend graham died, there were all these stories about presidents he had been with. he wrote, many expressed surprise that evangelicals voted last year for trump. it's not religion but ideology. it is really more about ideology than religion then? >> well, certainly. we don't look to washington, d.c. to bring revival to the united states. that's the job of the church of jesus christ. government has a responsibility to maintain order and to preserve citizen's freedom, according to 1 timothy 2. that's exactly what president trump is doing. he's fulfilling his god-given responsibility in securing our border and keeping our nation safe. i think that's why evangelicals continue to support this president as a 75% approval rating. it's not that we have sold out at all. we believe that sin is sin, but we also believe that all of us can find forgiveness that we need through faith in jesus christ.

and billy graham. important people, but it wasn't about big numbers of people.or of annapolis say he was turned down with a no-brainer request. now, i'm afraid i know the answer. and it's because president trump doesn't like the media. i know that sounds extraordinarily petty and callous, but more facts. trump is the man who mocked john mccain for being captured during vietnam. in fact, he allowed her to stay at a job, and still attacks mccain with his thumbs down swipes about the senator's vote on an insurance bill. a bill that would have taken insurance from more people. >> trump unfortunately is entire when i capable of disrespecting people no matter their predicament. if it suits him or his interests. look, look at what's happening on the boarder. kids ripped from their families, still not returned. despite promises to fix it all. yes, trump did say he respects journalists after the mass murder, but why would you believe that? why would you believe he's not lying again. i don't have time to play all the attacks on the media, you know the truth. and now you k

they are the billy graham association. he launched his crusades out of california in the '50s.ou have kennedy ministries and bill bright launching campus crusade for christ out of california. california is actually a place where the seeds are planted deep for conservative values and the christian faith. i have hoped that there would be revivals springing out of california. i can see some of the fruit this morning as i was in los angeles airport. there was a man that just embodied kindness and conservative values. as he approached me coming the opposite direction i was walking feeling pretty swag in my crisp suit about to go to the summit. he stopped me as he was coming my way and said excuse me, sir, may i? i said yes. he said your fly is open. and said thank you. and i kept walking and i thought there is hope. there is at least one man in california who is committed to kindness, christian charity and conservative values. [ cheers and applause ] there is hope for california. and the flight here was just great. i sat next to two teenaged girls who were coming back from hawaii on

even billy graham got close to nixon, one of the last people to confront him during watergate.grapher,great grant lacher, who suggested that else-- that when everyone thought nixon was guilty, billy graham was supporting him. -- today's evangelicals guest: you wrote in the book that he later regretted that. guest: as he reflected back on his life, he said it was one of my biggest mistakes, cozying up to political power. book, donalde trump was a winner, and he managed to convince american evangelicals he could score a cultural victory on their behalf. he would shelter them from mexican strangers threatening white, evangelical america, from muslims preparing to kill them from their families, -- political correctness by the liberal media. he would deliver the supreme court. believedey've always they've been the guardians of american culture, and in some ways, they have been, but things have changed, especially since world war 2, especially since the 1960's. many are left fearful about the way the country is changing religiously in, some ways. when people are afraid, they turned t

say he is from the black mountain area of north carolina, part of the same church that reverend billy graham was a part of. he went to turkey to pursue his passion and serving christ through missionary work. but in 2016, after the coup attempt, president erdogan implemented emergency powers and swept up thousands of people and put them in prison. pastor brunson was in prison for almost 19 months without charges, in a turkish prison, about 17 months in a cell that was designed for eight prisoners that had 21 people in it. i was in turkey about four months ago when i first met pastor brunson personally to visit him in prison, to let him know that that as long as -- to let him know as long as i am in the u.s. senate, i am going to work hard for his release. i sat in the a turkish courtroom i told pastor brunson that i would be back and i will continue to be back until justice is served. now, i don't want to get into too many of the details, so i will tell you he was in a courtroom today for another five hours. if it was -- badr any resystem -- beared any resembles to the time i was in a courtro

he is part of a church affiliated with billy graham and has been a missionary in turkey for 20 years. he was incarcerated in 2016 and akiewfd of being -- accused being part of a coup attempt, an illegal act that people who were involved with should be held accountable. he was not one of them. and also suspected terrorist activities. back in the late winter i heard that after the indictment, after almost 19 months in prison without charges, after the indictment was issued, he was concerned that the american people were going to look at this indictment and turn their back on him. and i felt like i needed to be able to look him in the eye and tell him nothing could be further from the truth. i traveled to turkey and i met with him in the prison outside offish mir -- ishmir to tell him i would be his voice and i talked to senators and more than 70 signed on to a letter expressing their concern. this is about an illegal incarceration of a minister with a nato ally. pastor brunson has been in prison 656 days counting today. we just got word this morning that the turkish authorities will rel

graham. son of billy. >> interesting, we have to get more on this.e haven't really gotten into this russia angle on it. very interesting. >>> coming up in next hour. man who wrote the art of the deal, tells us why trump has such putin envy. great rachel ma dough here to sense of all of this. met. there's a lot of innovation that goes into making our thinnest longest lasting blades on the market. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. it's about delivering a more comfortable shave every time. invented in boston, made and sold around the world. order now at gilletteondemand.com. gillette. the best a man can get. your mornings were made for better things than psoriatic arthritis. as you and your rheumatologist consider treatments, ask if xeljanz xr is right for you. xeljanz xr is a once-daily pill for psoriatic arthritis. taken with methotrexate or similar medicines, it can reduce joint pain, swelling, and significantly improve physical function. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infe