billy graham in a football helmet. john is an expert on the religious world in america. really sees tebow as next generation as sort of evangelistsw, a football hero and people like him for all kinds of other reasons i think makes him a very, very compelling figure in all kinds of ways >> you know what's confusedy. >> why has tim tebow and what he does been at all controversial? he's a guy who praise on the sidelines, so what. why is that a controversy? >> he prays in the huddle, too. >> fine, so what? i don't get why this is a story and why it's a controversy and why we all comment on it. >> he plays a game in an industry covered by 100% cynical people. >> then maybe that's the story. >> well you know what i like? there's an important piece and another important piece is there's a race dynamic that's happened with tim tebow as well where, you know, we've had similar type of quarterbacks that have been both in the college ranks but haven't made it to the pro ranks, the running quarterback but didn't have the mechanics and never quite got that shot. the fact that there is a national obsession with tim tebow goes well past the whol