they didn't know that bin laden was there. when i said to o'neill how dangerous it do you think it was and he said a one-way ticket. he said suicide mission. he said if he is there there is no question in my mind that when our helicopters hit the compound it is going to explode and when that happens and we go into the main house where we think if bin laden is there, that's where he's hiding. they will have bodyguards and throw hand grenades at us and overwhelming force. he said i was perfectly prepared to die if i could get bin laden. that was a bargain that i was willing to make and he said i was doing it for the one who went to work on 9/11 in the world trade center and the plane hits the tower and at a certain point confronted with a choice between the inferno where it is 2500 degrees fahrenheit and looking out the window to a story drop and decides going out the window is the better alternative. there are strange different breeds but god bless them and am i glad we have them at the tip of the spear. >> let's go to the bott

the man who shocked, actually shot bin laden.as interested particularly because there is controversy which you addressed a little bit obliquely whether he took too much credit and the raid. be presented very factually what happened. there was some controversy whether he was the sole person who shot you, you may definitive statement he was the sole person i gather admiral was in deed who did. he was quite forthcoming. really trying to liberty is to set these record straight in terms of his role? >> first of all if you tell the story of the raid and how they got bin laden the person who actually took him out it's a pretty important part of the story. it's not going to set the record straight for i remember when he first came out and did an interview, want to make it clear he was not the first book. there another one who wrote a book first. there is something broke the seal code for this secret group of warriors they didn't talk about their mission and i certainly did not take credit for their mission. he did not write the first boo

bear| hunting, looking for bin laden? and al-qaeda hunting, looking for bin laden?more generally. but it was very difficult to start nation—building when you needed to work from the ground up words. i think people can see the campaign evolved, but by then, we made a mistake. ., , , evolved, but by then, we made a mistake. . , , ., , mistake. there has been a big debate about how our — mistake. there has been a big debate about how our armed _ mistake. there has been a big debate about how our armed forces - mistake. there has been a big debate about how our armed forces should l mistake. there has been a big debate | about how our armed forces should be configured in the future. a big review came to out, lots of talks of concepts we barely understand. does what's happened in afghanistan make us think, hold on, before we abandon all that stuff about mass mobilisation, let's remember we still need an army?— still need an army? yes, and of course, still need an army? yes, and of course. some — still need an army? yes, and of course, some of— still need an army? yes, an

what is it like being a conservative bin laden county, virginia school board. tonight we speak to a man in a unique position who gives us a

up next, the man who tried to get the taliban to cough up bin laden three years before 9/11, the formerd of saudi intelligence, on what keeps him up at night. he joins us next with what is in store for the middle east. age is just a number. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein. >> tech: when you get a chip in your windshield... trust safelite. boost® high protein also has key nutrients this couple was headed to the farmers market... when they got a chip. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> tech: that's service the way you need it. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ - [narrator] every three minutes, a child is born with a cleft condition. without surgery, some will die. those who do survive face extreme challenges. operation smile works to heal children born with cleft conditions. we need you. there are still millions in

culminating in the fact that a summa bin laden -- osama bin laden was living there for so long. i would be extra narrowly disappointed if i knew there was an agreement that pakistan embedded with be allowed to escape. it is not sank there were not pakistanis embedded. i knew the chairman for a number of years and he had been killed by an extremist group. as to why mr. rumsfeld did not prosecute this i don't know but i would ensure you to have general franks testify. >> the question on afghanistan, if you look back on the experience and afghanistan, what do you think we accomplished and what opportunities were missed under what do you think are the main lessons learned from the intervention in afghanistan on nationbuilding, providing development assistance, on joint civil military operations. i pose that for whoever would like to take a shot at any of those pieces of the question. >> our longest term impact was through our support for education, particularly for female education. we have a generation that has grown up in a free immediate environment with the curriculum that is no

then in may 2011. us special forces, kill bin laden in pakistan and troop numbers within reduced to 3 and a half 1000. in september 2018 peace talks began between taliban leaders and u. s. diplomats in qatar that led to the eventual withdrawal of all coalition forces from afghanistan in august this year. and that happened as the taliban seized back power will aspect of him. saddam, he's an afghan us on analyst and he says 2 decades of progress made by us intervention will be wiped out with the taliban back in power when they intervention us happen that the people who thought this would be the end of the suffering. a new dawn for the country, there wouldn't be democracy, and a liberal value that promoted and modern governing that institution with the international community engaged and particularly of america the most power on the rich can be honest. he would be here that many, many carriers would improve development much. they would be a broad base government ought to be, but it would also they would be human. right. and i think williams right chris, thank you bye bye. after the withd

and that was osama bin laden mentor and wrote the guidebook for international terrorism.with an international airport to fly anybody or any terrorist or suicide bomber anywhere he wants. the powers of the state insecurity services as interior minister. they have a central bank some governments are talk about unfreezing billions in assets and an army with american equipment. billions of dollars at his disposable one —- at his disposal. this is a nightmare i think we fully understand the ramifications. he is building a fountainhead of jihad in the middle of nuclear arms states what could go wrong. steve: exactly that's i want to talk about it with you tonight because to mentioned this issue in passing. so it is more than that more than just offering a safe haven you put the terrorist in charge of the country. >> that is right but this cancer will spread and not stay there and i think what you see the spread into india and pakistan this could default into a regional proxy war at play. that is how dangerous this is and meanwhile you have biden selling us fiction with countert

on his vision and bin laden sitting down to lunch, he stepped 45 minutes to whack him and wanted tohe rest, it has to hit him so the chinese to missed their target yes, after a circumnavigation can missed the target by 25 miles, they fail in american testing, the systems testing, edwards entitled lake, it's a fail actually hit the target and i bet you the chinese are angrily pointing fingers at each other because within the community they look kind of silly. kennedy: while it is there some clutching and congress amongst intelligence and defense sites? >> we have no defense for it. our ground-based missile defense in alaska is meant for midcourse interception, a ballistic mission which is like shooting an arrow to probably your house. that's what it's meant for anything over the north pole. it's theoretically chinese can shoot this hospital because it.north but why would they? hours back. there's not a sputnik moment. it's only sputnik moment if we didn't have an identical technology we could have marched before sputnik in 19 to seven. however, it's extremely serious because china fe

. >> let me go to ambassador now in the obama ministration during the time of the bin laden rate which was another opportunity to find a way to leave afghanistan. we understand the way to open the taliban that predated, tell us how the obama administration killing but modern ending the fighting in afghanistan and negotiation established during the obama administration. >> you are right, obama approved the search of troops other than u.s. troops so it was in december of 2009 is hr laid out. he did that at west point. the next month inside the white house what we consider possible for mother or rumors and possibility the taliban might want to talk to the united states that process developed 2010 and by november 2010, administration officials authorized by president obama in the head of the political office based in cutter and germany assisted by german intelligence so parallel to the troops surge, there wasn't to explore, there was nothing certain about this or even likely about this but in terms of success for the conservative effort consummate and bring into alignment military and vert

this footage shows osama bin laden�*s former security chief, amin al haq, returning to his homeland fromified by the un. despite repeated requests to the haqqani network for an interview, they did not agree to one. the taliban continue to insist they have no links with al-anda, and will not shelter them. but there's another terror threat that's already very real. islamic state in afghanistan, or is—k. it killed at least 182 people, including 13 us soldiers, outside kabul airport during the evacuation. and despite taliban claims to be fighting back, a week ago, more than 50 died in a suicide bombing at a shia mosque in kunduz. during the last 20 years of war, millions of afghans have been driven from their homes. just this year, an estimated 665,000 have been displaced. shahr—e—naw park in kabul is now home for many families with nowhere else to go. other than three loaves of bread that we got a couple this family has been here for two months. the world food programme says 1a million are at risk of starvation. people queue for hours to get money from the bank, and withdrawals are tightly

one thing president biden points to a lot is the death of osama bin laden in 2001 when he was killediden says that was the last thing we wanted to accomplish. that is certainly true in terms of the original goal of dismantling al-qaeda but then that raises the question of what we really trying to accomplish for the ten years since then? >> why do you think american leaders believe they can remake of the countries, other societies, transform the politics? whether it's vietnam or iraq or afghanistan. in fact, president bush, president obama, president trump all say they would not engage in nationbuilding and yet they did, over 20 years. why? >> that's a a really good quen and i think one that our leaders haven't answered. there there was one interview in the afghanistan papers with a former navy seal made jeffrey eggers who worked at the white house on the nationals could he staff under bush and obama and he served in afghanistan, too, and he raised that same question. said why do we think we can transform societies like this? why do we take on these enormous tasks as a country? he sai

what can you tell us how they obama is ministration through the killing of bin laden related to ending fight in afghanistan for negotiations to establishli during the obama administration. >> president obama proved a surge of 30,000 units and 10000 others in december of 2009 as hr that he did that at west point. the next month inside the white house we began to explore what we consider possible openings with the taliban. there were a lot r of threads of possibility tolerant might want to talk to the united states. that process develops 2010 and by november 2010, administration officials authorized by president obama, the head of the taliban political office in germany so parallel to troops search, to try to explore, there was nothing certain about this or even likely about this in terms of success but we have the openings explore diplomatic openings with the taliban an effort to complement bring intoat alignment literary and political finances. with the killing of bin laden in 2011, but wasas followed a coupe months later by the end of the search itself, beginning of the end troop leve

bear hunting, looking for bin laden? and al-qaeda more generally.ery difficult to start nation—building when you needed to work from the ground upwards. i think people can see the campaign evolved, but by then, we made a mistake before. there has been a big debate about how our armed forces should be configured in the future. a big review came out, lots of talks of concepts that many barely understand. the importance of cyber, and so on. does what's happened in afghanistan make us think, hold on, before we abandon all that stuff about mass mobilisation, let's remember we still need an army? yes, and of course, some of the challenges we're having at the moment would explain why we need a force of national resilience. but the bottom line is that we've already learned a lot of lessons from the afghan campaign, and we know very well that if you are going to get involved in these sorts of environments again, you need to have the basic insight to have an effect. if you go in there without that, you are going to fail. we've already begun to get the army in

not least why the tele bonds offer to hand over osama . bin laden was rejected by the bush administration. 2 decades of war followed with countless lives lost. and at the end of it all the millions and militants back in charge. our senior correspondent is in cobble and asked what's really been achieved the afghan born and is just shy of its, its 20th anniversary, the, the war, a vengeance that was launched by the united states. as revenge for 911 and quickly morphed into something else. one of the most protracted conflicts in modern history, an exercise, and a nation building before losing all lame and tylenol towards the end. neither the united states nor any of its allies, still knew what it is that they hoped to achieve. here. the end result is that it was unanimously considered an abject failure. metallic banners is back in control. and more absolutely than it was before the united states invaded afghanistan. and the question that we're hearing now in the halls of congress, in parliament's, in europe, in the press and either on television internationally is, is who the we lay. we need

the awful irony here is that the real her son, gall bin laden's messengers, he's known who rabbani was mistaken for was captured and handed over to the cia in 2004. he was later released in 2007 went back to his old ways and was killed in a drone strike. and still mohammed rabbi the is serving someone else's time in guantanamo the years. and the presidents came and went. they admitted that the arrest was a case of mistaken identity, and yet he is still there. guantanamo is all about lies, hypocrisy and broken promises. they promised me that they might let me out for a view of my detention, but that came to nothing. you can almost track his tragedy in released cia and pentagon documents. he was initially tortured at the sole pit at atoria cia jail in afghanistan, where terrible things were done to inmates to extract confessions. rabbani was allegedly identified as the man mentioned in several cia torture memos who was hung by his wrists in arn chains and who attempted to amputate his own hands for stop. the pain being cleared for release may be a personal victory for him. but in practic

our mission to degrade the terrorist threat of al qaeda in afghanistan and kill osama bin laden was a success. i believed that our presence in afghanistan should be focused on the reason we went in the 1st place to ensure afghanistan would not be used as a base from which to attack our homeland. again. we did that. we accomplish that objective. a former pentagon security unless michael maloof told us the u. s. withdrawal has made it even harder to remove ices from afghanistan. isis is now imbedded in a highly remote mountainous region. would make it much more difficult to try to extract them. and ice with k has as demonstrated to taliban, which is what sir. against that while they may think that they run f canister them, they actually control events. and they've demonstrated that with their suicide bombings, the united states is unable to get any basis in the region. the over the horizon concept really doesn't work. all that well. and, and the ordinance is flowing against isis or all kinds of targets. now has to come from the gulf, it was bite and who wanted to get out and the and bit

many questions, i'll still be asked not least, the wind, the turbans also to handle the asylum. bin laden was rejected by the bush administration that led to 2 decades. a war countless lines last and at least. and, and they and they militants back in charge. i senior correspondent, murat, gas damp repulse. now from cobble. when will the conflict has achieved the afghan war? and it's just shy of it's it's 20th anniversary, the the war a vengeance that was launched by the united states as revenge for 911 and quickly morph into something else. one of the most protracted conflicts in modern history, an exercise in and nation building before losing all lame and tylenol towards the end. neither the united states nor any of its allies still knew what it is that they hoped to achieve. here. the end result is that it was unanimously considered an abject failure. metalli banners is back in control. and more absolutely than it was before the united states invaded afghanistan. and the question that we're hearing now in the halls of congress, in parliament, in europe, in the press and either on televi

not least why and a ton of been offered to honda. osama bin laden was rejected by the bush administration that led to 2 decades of wool countless lies low, stunned, and banned the militants bank in charge of our siena. correspondent, murat, gas, damp reports now from carmel on remove. the conflict has achieved the afghan born and is just shy of it's it's 20th anniversary, the the war a vengeance that was launched by the united states as revenge for 911 and quickly morphed into something else. one of the most protracted conflicts in modern history and exercising and nation building before losing all lame and tylenol towards the end. neither the united states nor any of its allies still knew what it is that they hoped to achieve. here. the end result is that it was unanimously considered an abject failure. metallic banners is back in control. and more absolutely than it was before the united states invaded afghanistan. and the question that we're hearing now in the holds of congress in parliament, in europe, and in the press and in there on television, internationally is, is who the we blam

out, many questions are still being asked, not least why the taliban to offer to hand over osama. bin laden was rejected by the bush administration. and that, of course, let a 2 decades of war lives lost and at the end of it all with the militants back of the top in charge. our senior correspondent, reporting from kabul is more out against death, with the latest on the cost of this war. the afghan war and it's just shy of it's it's 20th anniversary, the the war a vengeance that was launched by the united states as revenge for 911 and quickly morphed into something else. one of the most protracted conflicts in modern history, an exercise, and a nation building before losing all lame and tyler towards the end. neither the united states nor any of its allies still knew what it is that they hoped to achieve. here, the end result that is, that is that it was unanimously considered an abject failure. metalli's is back in control and more absolutely than it was before the united states invaded afghanistan. and the question that we're hearing now in the halls of congress, in parliament, in europe,

many questions are still being asked not least why the tanner bands offer to hand over sama, bin laden, was rejected by the bush administration, that led to 2 decades of war. countless lives lost and at the end of it all the militants back in charge were a cast here for post. now from couple on what was really achieved the afghan war. and it's just shy of it's it's 20th anniversary, the. the war a vengeance that was launched by the united states as revenge for 911, and quickly morphed into something else. one of the most protracted conflicts in modern history, an exercise in a nation building before losing all lame and tiring towards the end. neither the united states nor any of its allies still knew what it is that they hoped to achieve. here. the end result that is, is that it was unanimously considered an abject failure. but taliban is, is back in control and more absolutely than it was before the united states invaded afghanistan. and the question that we're hearing now in the halls of congress, in parliament, in europe, and the press and he's there on television, internationally i