>>s well, one of the more recet parts of cia history is the assassination of osama bin laden .why don't we look at some of the artifact you have there? ab seeing that this was relatively recent history, when was this declassified? is this newly declassified stuff that were about to see? >> the about about raid was 2011, and so pretty shortly thereafter, the artifacts au related to it were declassified. the newest artifact i'll get to in a little bit, are the boots that belonged to one of the members of the assault team officer that are now on display here in the museum. so the story, of course, begins with the attacks of 9/11. we have three artifacts from the n three different attack sites. we've got a safe from the world trade center building, we've goh the gym bag that belonged to the youngest passenger on flight 93. she was headed back to college that day when the plane crashed in shanksville, pennsylvania, and her gym bag was found in the wreckage. and then, finally, we have a metal and ribbon that belonged to a young naval officer who f was in the pentagon that day, sh and

the guards and one of osama bin laden sons were shooting and then eventually bin laden was shot and then body had to be taken out of the compound, loaded onto a helicopter because we had to be sure about identification to have credibility with the world and we had to blow up the helicopter because it was an advanced helicopter with advanced electronics. we didn't want the pakistanis to get it because we thought they were given to the russians and the chinese. all of this was going on and i think we were holding our breath for 20 minutes. it was just so intense. thankfully, president obama made the right decision and it worked. david: when something like that is happening you cannot say to your husband i have a secret, i can't tell you. bill: she called me as soon as it's over. they said we got him and i said who? because he knew how hard i tried to get him when i was president. and he said bin laden, hilary didn't tell you? and i said mr. president, didn't you tell her not to tell anybody he said, sure she did not tell anybody. you asked me in the beginning i said the polarization was be

>> i'm not giving osama bin laden -- you're making ate binary argument, neil.saying is is theize that people hate america for its freedoms, that was never true. when i was a kid, everybody around the world loved america for its freedoms. the reason that americas are the reason america is less safe now. >> neil: i understand that. ever remember usama bin laden citing those bases for these attacks. >> yeah, that's exactly what he cited. he cited the bases that we put around mecca and saudi arabia. he said that that was what made us -- to we were allies of usama bin laden during the afghan war. >> neil: was that the same approach in 93 and then he did it again in 2001? i don't want to belabor the point but it sounds like much of what we endured on 9/11, you're saying, was of our making? >> my memory of that, neil, you can go back and check the record, my was that we move those bases. i could be wrong about this. after 1988. i think it was after the kenyan embassy attacks. i could be wrong about my history but i am very, very certain that is the reason that usama b

bin laden -- hilary didn't tell you? and i said, mr.sident, didn't you tell her not to tell anybody read she did not tell anybody? he said sure and i said she didn't tell anybody. you asked me in the beginning i said color is a was because it had been awarded. this because the left too easily gives up on people. ♪ david: final question for both of you, we are just about out of time. so, secretary clinton, in your long distinguished career, what would you say you are most proud of having accomplished? hillary: i had been senator of new york for about eight me. [applause] david: wow. you look back on your service, what are you most proud of having achieved? bill: can i add one thing to what she said? one thing i like about george w. bush, we have fought, we have disagreed, he started out more conservative than his father. we do speeches ether that are really funny now because we badmouth each other in a funny way. but he will listen. he will listen. and if he thinks you are right, he will switch. and if he thinks you are wrong, he will ar

and he said bin laden, hilary didn't tell you? and i said mr.sident, didn't you tell her not to tell anybody read she did not tell anybody. you asked me in the beginning i said color is a was because it had been awarded. it's because the left gives up on people. ♪ david: final question for both of you, we are just about out of time, so in your long distinguished career, what would you say you are most proud of having accomplished? hillary: i had been a senator for about eight months when 9/11 happened and it was the most devastating, horrible experience for our city and our country. but it was also an absolute mandate to act, to help people who had been directly affected, to help victims families, to rebuild new york. it was so bipartisan. he started with a question about that, i just want to tell a little story here because chuck schumer and i were the only plane in the sky on september 11 -- 12th because we were flown down to meet with the governor and mayor giuliani to survey what had happened. and it was just overwhelming to have seen it fir

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and osama bin laden is dead now. i think that is a great thing.not believe the conspiracy theories. like i said, people have trauma for that and they tried to find an answer for that does not exist. because sometimes the truth people do not take, and that is just the way it is. thank you for taking my call, and thank you for your journalism and questioning people on the basic facts of reality. thank you. host: all right, benjamin. fred is next, philadelphia, pennsylvania. caller: good morning. a little bit of history i think people really forgot. back during the clinton administration, the terrorists tried to bring down the world trade center than with those vans that were in the parking lot and all. i think that was the beginning. i worked in the world trade center back in 1982 and 1984 for a communications company. our communications were in the buildings -- i forget which one they were but the one with the antenna, and communications were on the 10th, 11th, and 12th floor. we had to run data cables in the ceilings there. once we took those pane

who followed osama bin laden to the end of the earth and send him to the gates of hell 12 years ago.year i made the decision to take out zawahiri, the number two who met the same fate and today our intelligence community assessed and declassified memo that al qaeda threat from afghanistan and pakistan has reached a historic low. so all of this has changed over the last 22 years. the resolve of the american people has proved we never bow. we never bend. we never yield. our longest war is over but our commitment for preventing another attack on the united states and our people and allies will never, never rest. never. terrorism including political and ideology violence is the opposite of all we stand for as a nation. but settles our difference peacefully under a rule of law. we're going toin it to track terrorist threat in all forms whenever it may be. we're going to continue to disrupt terrorist activity wherever we may find it. and i will never hesitate to do what is necessary to defend the american people. just as i will never forget our sacred duty for those of you who serve. never

the man for usama bin laden and by reports.he recruit as much as they can -- he can saudis to be sure that he create a problem between america and saudi arabia. so, if people in america fall for that, that means he succeeded in his plan. >> bret: you are credited with going after jihadi extremism in the country. >> the country was conservative before. saudi arabia was conservative. america was conservative before. time change. reform comes. that's what happened in saudi arabia. >> bret: after the khashoggi killing president biden called sawedy the pariah nation and he visited here closed fist pump. warm hand and a smile g-20. it's fair to say the relationship with saudi is complicated. how would you describe your current relationship with president biden? >> the only thing that doesn't change in politic that is changing. so, always a change in politic that serve your goals as a nation. we have today great work with president biden. we are working in the big work building between india, saudi arabia, europe, we are working with

and he was not successful and getting bin laden. but then he went north with the anti taliban leaders. and it was all a pretty adventurous commission for the when ambassador. and that was just the start of it. then there was north korea in 2006, in north korea, trying to reach out and get retrieve from the korean war. and -- only conducted on back here, but we got him back from north korea for his family and some sort of release for them. but that was just the start, setting up his foundation and all of the other were kyiv dunson. he was not a traditional diplomat but that was his talent. he was very passionate and committed. >> what was it, andrea, that made him as a person aside from being a politician, so uniquely talented at negotiating the release of so many of these individuals? i think for many people as they think of phil richards and i know that he held so many titles, as you just talked about. so eloquently from the governor to ambassador to congressman. but so many will remember him as being the man who brought individual

if we'd found osama bin laden , if we'd found osama bin laden, we could not have done what the americans when the americans took out osama bin laden dead. americans took out osama bin laden dead . good laden and shot him dead. good riddance to bad trouble, in my view. says. we couldn't do view. he says. we couldn't do that because of the european court . court. >> okay. firstly, my view as well , andrew, i >> okay. firstly, my view as well, andrew, i share that >> okay. firstly, my view as well , andrew, i share that with well, andrew, i share that with you about what the americans did, that is something that did, but that is something that the americans can do and there are lots of reasons around and it's not really connected to the european court of human rights . european court of human rights. it's connected to how the united kingdom and all other institutions in the echr actually operate out their military operations . and if military operations. and if those want to change, then we have the opportunity to do so. there are 27 nations in nato . we there are 27 nations in nato. we can

en 2011, el perro militar cairo fue parte de la investigaciÓn que acabÓ con la vida de osama bin laden de largo. todos lograron salir del lago sin sufrir mÁs que un tremendo susto. 14 pies. maykel certamen de miss universo a partir de 2024 permitirÁ que todas las mujeres mayores de 18 aÑos del mundo puedan concursar. anteriormente debÍan tener entre 18 y 28 aÑos de edad. esta no es la Única regla que ha cambiado. a partir de 2022 en la organizaciÓn comenzÓ a aceptar a madres de familia y mujeres casadas. en 2012 miss universo puso fin a su prohibiciÓn de concursantes transexuales. escuchemos algunas reacciones. >> yo tengo mi opiniÓn personal y como directora tengo que reservarmela. tengo que ir con los lineamentos de la organizaciÓn. no sÉ cÓmo se va a manejar. no me imagino una persona de 70 aÑos en el tren de competencia que es muy exigente. >> pudieran crear no solo un "miss universe", sin obtener diferentes concursos de belleza dentro de la misma organizaciÓn y a eso le llamarÍa mÁs inclusiÓn. maity: me gusta lo que propone migbelis. leÓn: hunter biden es acusado de varios cargos

because we were attacked by osama bin laden and al qaeda on september 11, 2001. they were based in afghanistan. we delivered justice to bin laden on may 2, 2011, over a decade ago. al qaeda was decimated. host: that was the president from two years ago. jerry, your reaction. mr. dunleavy: president biden's whole argument is that everything that happened in 2021 was inevitable. that the chaos and death we saw was inevitable and there was nothing he could have done to change it. as we lay out in "kabul", that is simply not true. i will give you one example. all of president biden's advisors and military commanders were telling him about the importance of holding onto bagram air brace. -- bagram airbase. because of his decisions bagram was closed. everybody told president biden that bagram is a safer place to do an evacuation from than a small airport in the middle of kabul. if we had maintained bagram, it would have meant a safer evacuation, a more orderly one. we would have had far fewer americans left behind, far fewer afghan allies left behind. we could have kep

because we were attacked by osama bin laden and al qaeda on september 11, 2001. they were based in afghanistan. we delivered justice to bin laden on may 2, 2011, over a decade ago. al qaeda was decimated. host: that was the president from two years ago. jerry, your reaction. mr. dunleavy: president biden's whole argument is that everything that happened in 2021 was inevitable. that the chaos and death we saw was inevitable and there was nothing he could have done to change it. as we lay out in "kabul", that is simply not true. i will give you one example. all of president biden's advisors and military commanders were telling him about the importance of holding onto bagram air brace. -- bagram airbase. because of his decisions bagram was closed. everybody told president biden that bagram is a safer place to do an evacuation from than a small airport in the middle of kabul. if we had maintained bagram, it would have meant a safer evacuation, a more orderly one. we would have had far fewer americans left behind, far fewer afghan allies left behind. we could have kep

sacrificed again and again to defend our democracy and deny terrorists safe haven, those who follow osama bin laden and sent him to the gates of hell 12 years ago. and last year i made the decision to take out zaila hearing, the number two who met the same fate. and today, our intelligence committee has assessed and declassified memo that al qaeda has reached an historic low. all this has changed over the last 22 years, but the resolve of the american people has proved that we never bow, we never bent, we never yield. i -- longest work is over, but we still need to prevent -- our commitment to stopping further attacks will never rest. never. terrorism, including ideological violence, is the opposite of all we stand for as a nation. we're going to continue to track terrorists threats in all forms wherever it may be. we will disrupt terrorist activities wherever we might find it. and i will never hesitate to do what is necessary to defend the american people, as i will never forget our sacred duty for those of you who serve. never before has america hats -- asked so much for so many over such a susta

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negotiate with the russians and by the way, we violated the sovereignty of pakistan in 2011 and killed bin laden himself, we could do this only thanks to diversification. i think that many people misunderstand our desire to have good relations with russia, although other beliefs are possible. i don't even believe that the allies believed in this, like me. we should not choose mood music or a positive attitude towards the country as our goal, the goal should be specific tasks that advance national interests , in the case of my country, the interests of the united states of america, so for a while we this is how it ended, of course, for two reasons : firstly, putin returned and he was not interested in cooperating with us, and secondly , mass demonstrations against putin's regime arose in 11 and 12 years and putin accused us and me personally of these demonstrations, as a result of which cooperation on other issues such as iran or north korea or even syria, which was being corrected in 12-13 years , turned out to be impossible with putin, who was in the kremlin, because you know them very well , s

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and when it came to the 9/11 families, he goes, look, bin laden was attacking us as well. the time. the 9/11 families i know every time dealing with saudi arabia, i understand that it's personal. i mean, for us, 13 of the hijackers. >> ainsley: 15 of the 1. >> brian: were saudis but they weren't sponsored by the saudi government. it's very important to point out. we have not seen an economy grow like this and this is the future in the middle east. >> steve: well, regarding saudi arabia and the hijackers coming from saudi arabia, his quote was if americans believe saudi arabiaen government behind 9/11 then bin laden succeeded in his plan to wreck relations between the united states and saudi arabia. meanwhile the 9/11 families united group say saudi arabia is still blocking access to 9/11 related court documents which they have been trying for over 20 years to get in saudi arabia, you know, they are doing this p.r. push but they are just not helping those families. >> lawrence: still looks like america doesn't have the same place on the world stage anymore. it looks like th

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taliban radical islamic movement that seized power in the country osama bin laden in the eighties he he created the terrorist organization al-qaeda and declared jihad. now in the united states, 9/11 was part of al-qaeda's program to combat the so-called distant enemy, the basis for the strategy was to launch an attack against the west, particularly against the united states, to demonstrate the strength of its group. ben. laden managed to demonstrate, the united states expected new terrorist attacks immediately. yes, the question arises. what are we going to do? we’ll remake the doors on airplanes, we’ll even take away models of something that shoots. i remember we were flying. eh, i had one for my youngest son. then, in my opinion, he was probably 6 years old, and he had a keychain with a small pistol. this is how he was not allowed on the plane. i had to give this keychain to him. he cried a lot. but it was a pistol keychain , a pistol is not allowed. this is how paranoid the situation was. here. like this tightening tightening tightening this life vice president dichaini secretary

pakistan in 2011 and killed bin laden himself, we could do it only thanks to diversification.nk many people misunderstand our desire to have good relations with russia, although maybe others believed. i don't even believe that our allies believed in it, like me. should choose music for the mood or a positive attitude towards the country as their goal the goal should be specific tasks that promote national interests in the case of my country the interests of the united states of america so for a while we did this is how it ended, of course, for two reasons: firstly, putin returned and he was not interested in cooperating with us, and secondly , mass demonstrations against the putin regime took place in 11 and 12 years, and putin accused us and me personally of these demonstrations, cooperation with other issues, such as iran or north korea or even syria , which were fixed in 12-13 years , it turned out to be impossible with putin, who was in the kremlin , who when here to beat the russian beams, it is not necessary, because you know them very well , since you lived in moscow fo

and speaking of grievances, here is the full text of bin laden's letter to america, where he outlines his grievances against the country. this was released just after the 9/11 attacks the following year in 2002, calling on americans to embrace the religion of islam as well. i will not read it here, but if you would like to read it, it is at theguardian.com. lou is in tampa, florida. caller: good morning, c-span. good morning, america. i think that it is a sad day. and, you know, we can't put our finger on everything that transpired before this horrible act happened, but a good friend of mine up in new york -- i was up in new york at the time. a good friend of mine, his father, worked for -- worked on campus fitzgerald. he was never found. i feel bad. i feel really bad for all the people that lost, the fathers, the mothers, everybody. it is a solemn day. i could never go to the museum. i went to the pools. and all those firefighters and ems, police officers, all those ray people. and they are still very brave. we've got to come together. i know this country is divided, but we got to pe

intelligence was tracking bin laden and we were in afghanistan. then we went north where he met other afghan leaders who were favorable to the u.s., they went on a small yuan plane, it was very dramatic there. if he was a great negotiator. we went to north korea in 2006. he was always eager to take on very difficult tasks and of course, in more recent, years the hostage negotiator, alex. >> andrea, you mentioned the we're tracking. what you're seeing there in the lower corner of a screen, that is president biden who has arrived with our first lady in gainesville, florida, making his way to some hard-hit areas. he's going to meet with fema officials and people who have suffered the ravages of hurricane adalja. we will keep an eye on that. but continuing with you, andrea, it seems like north korea is the place where he made an indelible mark on his diplomacy skills. he was a man who could largely be credited to, my understanding, with having opened up this, as peter baker said, hermetically sealed community. this country that, for decades, had been

themselves or whatever and then the second level penthouse that's the anti-terror suite that's the bin laden suite and i was hoping we were going down into the shoplifters but no we we ended up going up in the lift and then you're stripped uh and you you dna taken your fingerprints and uh and uh and all of that and and then you're putting your you, your shoes are off and you're you're putting the cell or whatever uh and then you have a weak cry to yourself, you know, you get in underneath the blanket and he just you know all you want your mommy, the uh and then so and that went on shocking at that stage to see that they were their the main prosecution witness against us was the man who they said who they say killed six people uh and that's how perverse the the psni uh the investigator was they weren't trying to find uh you know uh they weren't trying to find justice for the locking island families uh they were using the killer against us to try and you know to try and shut us up mental it just just illustrates very clearly how how dysfunctional this place is doesn't it but you've also been b

the al qaeda leadership, osama bin laden, they had safe havens. individuals would come and go from these areas without disruption from the world intelligence of law enforcement services. and for 9/11 itself, they were able to recruit -- recruit people not only from the arab world but also from germany and they were able to travel to afghanistan. they subsequently held meetings in malaysia and spain and other countries without interference. and of course they travel to the united states where there was, at vet -- at best, it confused and limited to try to discover jihadis linked terrorists in the united states. if we fast forward five years later, we see all that has changed. it was disrupted by the u.s. invasion, even the invasion, havens around the world were under pressure and this could be in the form of drone strikes taking out terrorist leaders. as happened a year ago with the killing of our cowardice -- with the killing of al qaeda's leader. it could be in the form of special operations that are happening around the world to go after suspect

if osama bin laden is alive, he would still meet with osama, here is his answer, although i think thererpose in kim’s goal, they want to agree to take ammunition , moscow is very much in need of ammunition , which is in storage for the 10th anniversary. эти вклоды дизы 10-летыев взраинете let the korean war there, the weapon is simply unmeasured and it is not necessary to produce it, and it is only necessary to deliver it. there in pyatin remains patronizing in relation to north korea, today ukraine will take such actions without beijing's approval. well, it's too risky , you know, if you press the button to get involved in this war , then beijing will be presented with a western country. and how is it that the withdrawal of the koreans is carried out by the hands of the koreans? and it is prohibited to establish a language for the purpose of permanent security because of security and the guarantor of security in the world. weapons you want to be a part of this world, in which the norms of international law are ignored, you declared that the pipes and the mask in this strange situation