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the guards and one of bin laden's adult sons were shooting. eventually, bin laden was shot. his body had to be taken out of the compound, loaded onto a helicopter. we had to be sure about identification to have credibility. and we had to block the helicopter because it was an advanced helicopter with advanced electronics that we did not want the pakistanis to get. we thought they might give it to the russians or the chinese. all this was going on. we were all holding our breath for 20 minutes. it was so intense. thankfully, president obama made the right decision. it worked. >> [applause] david: when something like that is happening, you cannot say to your husband, i have a secret. i just cannot tell you. pres. clinton: she called me as soon as it was over and said, bill, we got him. i said, who? he knew how hard i try to get him when i was president and nearly did once. he said, bin laden. hillary did not tell you? i said, mr. president, you told her not to tell anybody? he said sure. u.s. about the polarization. it is rewarded but also the left too easily gives up on peopl

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, the mythical search for osama bin laden, because they were to penetrate very deeply, the geography, topography. is very different in gaza than it was in afghanistan, it's not mountainous, it's not quite as rocky, um, presumably, if if i'm not an expert, but if you talk to people who are, uh, as you say the use of j damms here will just will just pulverize gaza, i mean it will turn it in to sandbox, and literally, in which there is nothing. it will pulverize everything. um, are they going to use that? i don't know, that seems to be the intention. it, it should be noted that hamas has said, mean as i said, hammas knew this would be the response. hamas knew about jayds knew the the moral bankruptcy of the people in power in israel, and they say, bring it on, come on, we're ready. um, is that bravado? is that? suicidal or is that something else? i don't know, but uh, as i said, they had to know this was what was coming, and you know, the palestinian people have nothing to lose, they have nothing left to lose cuz they have nothing. um, it's a very dire situation. i don't, you know, is th

because like hamas, bin laden wasn't in the country we were bombing.ma got him ten years later in pakistan using special forces. bombing afghanistan did buy us a 20 year occupation that got us more enemies in the muslim world when we scooped people off the battlefield and threw them in gitmo and when we threw in a war against iraq based on lies by a bush administration that traded on our anger and fear, the world rose up against us as we committed torture and tossed former iraqi police and soldiers into makeshift gulags and those prisoners later turned into isis. oh, and the taliban are back in control in afghanistan, so again, what is the goal? of mass bombing gaza? is it to find the people hamas militants abducted on october 7th? okay, how? by flattening whatever shelter they're taking from the bombs. don'tia risk killing them all by bombing them with the palestinians? just some relevant questions. and trust me, people do want answers. over the weekend, protests erupted around the world with hundreds of thousands of demonstrators rallying in cities i

what bin laden was forced to do after 9/11. focusing on cure curriers, not electronic messages.t's a discovery. it speaks to hamas' preparations for this attack. >> israel has had a complicated relationship with the united nations for decades. even more tension maybe for the last several hours. what's going on here? these were the words from the u.n. secretary-general, speaking to antonio gutierrez. saying, these are his words, that the october 7th assault, did not happen in a vacuum, his words. and then, noting what he called a suffocating occupation of the palestinian people by israel for a number of years. have a listen to how he put it before the u.n. yesterday. >> it is important to recognize the attacks by hamas did not happen in a vacuum. the palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation. >> reporter: queen rania speaking how the u.s. and allies responded to israeli casualties how they are not reacting on a similar scale to casualties in gaza. it's important, john, because it affects key relationships out here. israel says it will block visa

one, we had killed osama bin laden and, had really significantly degraded al qaida. the point that they were kind of on a pathway to to defeat really to the surge had not had the results that the more optimistic forecast had had in afghanistan. and what obama took from that is not that okay now i need to surge more troops. what he took from that is, you know, there's just a limit we can do militarily in afghanistan and so we have to we have to begin draw this down. we have to begin to reduce american troops there. we're taking really high casualties at the height of the surge, reduced the cost. you know, congress, which had been very enthusiastic about the surge was getting frustrated, paying the bill for hundreds of billions dollars. and afghanistan and begin to train afghan security and see if we can create a political and dynamic where the afghans themselves since then on their own, clearly you know we we executed that drawdown we were down to about 10,000 troops by the end of the obama ministration. we did not remove all troops precisely because our assessment in

that memory is fading but two wars, the cairo speech, arab spring, osama bin laden, benghazi, reestablishing diplomatic relations with cuba and the iranian nuclear deal just to name a few. those of us who have jobs where we think we are pretty busy and we have a lot to deal with, look at that list and you say, boy, i have such an easy job. with that, i will take my easy job and step aside and welcome pawprints. the conference research director for the obama conference who will moderate the panel and introduce our panelists. >> thank you very much for that wonderful introduction and welcome to this really important session, today. thank you all for being here and all of your support for the conference. thank you to the conference director and wonderful friends that work on this project. thank you to honors college for coming, today, packing this room. it is great to see so many people here. thank you to all of the conference participants who have already given us a wonderful day, yesterday. and thank you to everyone else for attending. like i said, this is a really important panel foreign-pol

. >>> plus israel's bin laden. we'll look at the mysterious hamas commander behind the attacks. to launch this attack an planned to that these people hostages, reason dictates that they planned in advance locations to hide these hostages and keep them safe from israeli intelligence and efforts to get them out. so woulone could guess that thee scattered in various locations. >> and a daunting mission of rescue of up to 150 hostages. the u.s. has owned fbi and pentagon personnel into help. >> casting a wide net and also keeping the options wide open as we get more information. but we don't have enough began rarity to be able to fine tune the options. >> let's bring inbeganrarity to tune the options. >> let's bring in general steve anderson. thank you for being with us. there are just so many unanswered questions here. and obviously they raises spec ter of the hostages potentially being moved or scattered about. what do you think is the most likely location for these people? do you think some have been moved to egypt, what is the starting point? >> thank to you asking me to join yo

is located in a manner that is highly in terms of proximity close to us when you guys went after bin ladennd i heard my friend congressman gallagher spoke your enemies were across atlantic ocean and bora-bora are the caves that we don't know where they are, our enemies are five or six or seven blocks from where we are right now. imagine the fact that the level of threat that we are not continuing to live under the threat and we will eradicate hamas and the military capabilities and political abilities in order to make sure they will not continue a threatened israel. trey: you are correct, americans will not live the way israelis have to live. we will be watching this every single day as long as this war continues. thank you for joining us on a sunday night. >> thank you so much congressman, you are 100% right, 7000 rockets what would america do, nobody would accept that, no doubt about that. trey: we would not be talking about a cease-fire i can tell you that. we will talk to you again soon. israel is not the only country with border security issues, the insecurity of her own southern bord

role in carrying out rescue missions, whether it's going to eliminate a terror master mind like bin laden or extract someone from a booby-trapped cave, our guys have done it. karen hamilton is a u.s. navy seal and trained forces in congress in virginia. sir, under what circumstances would american forces get involved in this rescue operation cause we have pretty clear indication including from the administration that our special ops forces are there and present. >> yeah, laura. thank you for having me and our heart goes out to the people of israel and what they're enduring and it's atrocious and it's become a norm for reality and lifestyles and i would imagine there's u.s. personnel on the ground advising, assisting and we have some of the most advance technology and some of the most extreme and compelling tactics that i know that the israelis would benefit from. i would imagine that right now some of our personnel are currently there giving their strategic incite and advice and council for the z israelis and planning for the missions. >> >> laura: i think operational details that nobody

and despite trade a few weeks after bin laden. yeah like three weeks. yeah, he went down. yeah. and and it's it's just this and it's the fiscal responsibility thing to which like it's impervious to any facts, right and the flip side that is that the democrats are seen as the more social, you know, social program party. and i think i mean where does it come from is is a good question i think i think of it as sort of a in the in its modern form when we had power projection capabilities think of it as really going back to truman and who lost china. yeah but i think you know we often talk about the advantage that a nixon has in going to china the hawks advantage in making peace to me it's it's that the the advantage that a hawk has this the flipside of the doves curse right the hawk and can evade can get around the constraints the hawk and can pretend like the river is not problem and just decide to go to iraq because hawks are the from the party that owns national and i'm not suggesting that's correct i just think it's a political reality and so when a hawk decides not to intervene

jon: we know what seal team 6 did in taking out osama bin laden.d months to rehearse and you know they built a model of his c compound. they would not have that kind of preparation in a situation like this. which does give you pause, as to whether or not american forces could or should be involved. >> and also, in in addition to what you said there is the issue of tunnels and where are the people, this is a very difficult situation, let me shift a little bit, i think you know a lot of people are looking too far down the game tree fbefore israel has even puts it offe offensive forward, let's give this time, let's not make decisions for israel, i heard president of united states on 60 minutes say israel should note occupy gaza, this is not the time for that conversation. and if we want israel to do what is best for its nation, based on national interest it has to have the opportunity to play this out. and so i think even on the u.s. side, the fact that we have a secretary of defense, who is -- and our own president, who says, this is an important fig

he denounced bin laden and said that you cannot do this to civilians. we get to where we can have a jerome perez and how do we as faith leaders get people back to that, where we might not agree, i'm first two state solution. they might not agree, but we can talk. we are not condoning killing each other, and particularly those that aren't even in the military that have nothing to do with what either state is about. >> you're absolutely right. this is certainly a larger challenge. it's not just to think in the long term for how to bring peace, but how do we stop? how do we stop this unbelievable and overwhelming bloodshed? i will tell you, i am a peacemaker, of been working for peace. building bridges of understanding across all lines of difference in israel and among palestinians. this war isn't against palestinians. palestinian deserve dignity. they deserve the rights. what hamas is doing is not fighting the liberation movement. they're fighting to simply wipe israel off the map. there cannot be a lack of clarity about that. this isn't just an objection

osama bin laden said the american retreat could drive american forces out of the region. it literally set the stage for 9/11. we can't signal restraint. we can't signal retreat in this moment. we've got to make it clear that america stands with israel and we're going to stand strong for our interests in the region. >> there is a difference, an important one, between retreat and pause, and you bring up 9/11, and this, you know, has been referred to many times as israel's 9/11. i would love your reaction to what general stanley mcchrystal told our jake tapper back in 2021, and jake reminded us of it on his show yesterday, in terms of reflecting on what he wished america had done at that moment. here he was. >> i thought about it a lot. right after the 9/11 attacks, i would have made a decision inside the u.s. government to do nothing substantiative for a year. and what i mean by nothing, no bombing, no strikes, et cetera. i would have gone around the world as the aggrieved party and built up a firm coalition for what we do about al qaeda. i would have done a mass effort to

that degree is similar to americans and we're looking at osama bin laden.have to go after those individuals because, clearly, they will not stop. >> it's hard to make a parallel to osama bin laden with what we did after 9/11. because you made huge mistakes, destabilized the entire region in the fog of the moment. >> right, and the reason why bring that up is because the most difficult vote that i had to make as a member of congress was whether we go into afghanistan or not. and i voted that way. and i still feel that we did the right thing. errors being made. hopefully, with a government that is working on both sides, not just one way, that they will learn from some of those mistakes. also, what is important is continuing to have the dialogue in conversations with the countries in the region. lock them in also. and i think that is something that i know our administration is working on right now, which is vitally important. and i think, also, we've got a look out before we make all the allegations, we've got a look very carefully at what involvement iran did

americans set themselves the goal of crushing the taliban regime, which had provided refuge to usami bin ladenentrusted responsibility for the september 11 attacks. the americans very quickly took control of kabul and drove the militants out of the city, but the taliban were nowhere. did not disappear, they simply scattered across afghanistan and neighboring pakistan, as a result , the construction of democracy started by the states turned into an endless war and ended in their defeat. edmund dzhelbunov figured out why this happened. this is how the counterterrorism operation, which became the longest armed conflict in us history, ended ingloriously. washington sent troops in october 2001. responsibility for the september 11 attacks was placed on al-qaeda, banned in russia, and its leader osama bin laden. who was hiding in afghanistan, however, in addition to the fight against international terrorism, the states were also interested in the distribution of spheres of influence in the middle east. this situation was used by the united states for expansion in the middle east, with the goal of cre

bin laden as evil as bin laden, and they're going to stay in the population centers daring the west and israel and coalition forces to take them out because they know that they have allies in the media, whether it's local in the middle east or throughout the world that are going to show the images and try to make this about propaganda. this is what the marines faced in fallujah in april and the reason why it took six months to gets that civilian population out of fallujah for november 2004 and that cost hundreds of american lives. in an effort to save civilians, americans have given their lives in the war on terror, israelis will do the same thing in order to save innocent lives. they'll sacrifice their own. that's the difference between us and the enemy. >> steve: david, thank you very much for joining us live today. >> thank you. >> steve: you bet. all right, we've been looking live gaza city, more smoke and dust filling the air. trey yingst is live on the ground along the israeli gaza border. next, as you look at port of gaza, another boat on fire. ♪ ♪ ♪ lowe's knows you want to make

importantly convenient version, which made it possible to link the plane racers with alkaida to osama bin ladenhe year, one gets the feeling that the german prosecutor’s office is trying to cook up something digestible, something that can be fed to the public, and at the same time contains minimal political risks. actually, this is the reason for the lack of results. they cannot blame the usa and britain, russia is the point. they tried, but it didn’t work, so they cling to the cover version about some ukrainian activists who obtained powerful army explosives somewhere in europe , hired a boat, sailed to the nordic streams, laid mines, sailed away, and then a week later, somehow brought bombs into action, it even sounds difficult, and although most critics, the authorities are ready to accept this semi-fantastic plot as a basis ; in any case, it can say something about the performer, but not about the customer. to what extent are we considered stupid for feeding these tales? ukraine doesn't do anything the americans don't want because it can't afford it. federal government. has known about this

we all blame bin laden for taking down the twin towers. trump sent the troops to the capitol and destroyed the capitol. the republicans need to hire somebody that can work for the country. host: who is that? caller: robert stauber. host: tiffany in pennsylvania, democratic caller. your turn. caller: i oppose jim jordan. i'm ok with a temporary speakership. i think our best interest is put somebody like liz cheney or adam kinzinger who is willing to put party behind and the people first. that's where i stand. i am totally against having two geriatric old men running for president. i am a die-hard democrat. and i would give my vote to chris christie hands down. host: let me go back to the speaker race. your idea of adam kinzinger and liz cheney, it's not likely, under that scenario, that hypothetical, you say to your democratic party get behind those nominations. caller: absolutely. they were able to be impartial during the january 6 hearing. that's what we need. they put people before the party. that's what we need in congress right now. i

this is not like an osama bin laden figure that you want to eliminate. >> juju: for nearly three decadest often behind the israeli response, benjamin netanyahu. he's long been affectionately nicknamed "bei bei," educated at top u.s. schools, mit and harvard. he's served as the lo longest-tenured prime minister in history. what explains his staying power? >> netanyahu has a bloc, a base of voters who really, you know, come out for him time and time again. for them, they call him king bebe. he's managed to lock his base. >> juju: his increasingly right-wing base cheering the expansion into the west bank. >> the right-wing government's policies have meant in recent years that resources have been diverted from protecting these very fragile southern communities in israel and instead battalions were sent to the west bank to protect jewish settlers. >> juju: netanyahu's leadership has often been mired in controversy. >> he's standing trial for corruption on three charges. but he himself has really kind of cultivated the far right as an influential bloc. >> juju: throughout much of this year, hu

we knew that osama bin laden was the mastermind. do you know who the mastermind is? >> sure.are two people in gaza. they are the ones responsible specifically for this attack. they are backed, again, by iran. they are backed financially, they are backed with weapons, with training, with logistics, with communication, with political support. iran is the source of so many of the problems of the middle east. >> the u.s. says it has no evidence that iran was behind this specific attack. does the israeli government know that iran was behind this attack? >> there's a question of whether iran knew about the timing of this specific attack. but iran is behind hamas. hamas, 93% of their military budget is iran. they have meetings all the time, iran and hamas. so, whether they knew the attack was going to happen on this day or three days later or a week later or two weeks later, that's a separate question. without iran, this attack cannot happen. that, i can assure you. >> is an attack against iran under consideration? >> iran is a country that works every single day for israel's destru

of course, that's rich, of course, coming from osama bin laden.mas has done actually is on a larger scale, more grotesque, more inhumane than even what zarqawi was doing that caused the condemnation of osama bin laden. those words about hamas being worse than isis, worse than al qaeda in iraq, i mean, they ring true. this is a savagery unlike any i think any of us have seen. >> you know, joe, wait until the world gets the information on all of the autopsy reports now being conducted in israel on the victims of last week's invasion of israel but from gaza. those autopsy reports will tell the tale and tell the truth of exactly what you just said. hamas is worse than isis. their behavior has been worse than isis. unfortunately, going forward, we'll hear a lot about proportion, let's be proportional in the israel's invasion of the gaza strip when it occurs. let's be proportional. in other words, let's not kill too many people. it's amazing how we think this is a movie. as a culture, war is movie that you can move and stop whenever you want, that the c

first and foremost, mohammed deif, who i see as israel's version of 0sama bin laden.s overseas, former political leaders who still have a close connection to hamas overseas, as well, but the operational leaders, individuals like mohammed deif and others, are absolutely in gaza and they are the architects of the death and destruction that we saw a week ago. can the israelis find mohammed deif? that's going to be difficult. they've been looking for him for nearly two decades. he's an individual who has very savvy communications and operational security, but absolutely, he is the individual that they have to identify, find, prosecute or eliminate. reminder the pictures that you are seeing on your screen preparations for a press conference with yoav gallant and the us secretary of defence, lloyd austin. we understand their press conferences due to start in about an hour. we are also expecting at some point to hear statements after discussions between the us secretary of state antony blinken and the palestinian leader mahmoud bass. we will bring you that as soon as we get

when 3,000 americans were killed in 9/11, if someone said to the americans don't go after 0sama bin ladenstan which is housing the fellow, we would've said you have to be kidding me. they killed 3,000 americans. if you take the small population of israel, and they lost 1,300, and you extrapolate it up to the 330 million of the united states with the same proportion of civilians, it'd be 30,000 to 40,000 americans killed. looking at what happened in 9/11, 3,000 died, we were going to go after those people that did it. imagine if 35,000 had died. i think you have to recognise that from the israeli viewpoint this was an unforgivable assault upon their people and they cannot have safety for their people wherever their people live, as long as hamas is committed to killing all thejews. you have that perspective, you have their perspective, you can understand why they are conducting this operation. we will have to leave it there. thank you so much forjoining us on bbc news tonight. thank you, sumi. to give us context of what the assistance will look like for those in gaza and the west bank, my c

he's also the author of the important book "the rise and fall of so youosama bin laden." we know of at least two intelligence assessments warning of potential violence by hamas just before the attack, but those assessments didn't mention the scope abehind hamas' brutality. >> go back to the yom kippur war 50 years ago. there was intelligence of the possibility that egypt and syria might attack israel at the time. but the assumption from israel policymakers is israel and s sya would not launch a war. there were assumptions made by hamas that hamas was quiescent because they were getting aid from qatar, from egypt, that gazans were working inside israel and that hamas wouldn't do anything this big. i think there were these intelligence warnings apparently also from the egyptians, but i think they were sort of ignored because they didn't fit the assumptions policymakers had about what hamas might be capable of. >> u.s. officials, as you know, are still weighing to what are extent iran was involved in the hamas attack against israel. what will it take for the u.s. intelligenc

responsibility for the september 11 attacks was. on al-qaeda, banned in russia, and its leader osama bin ladenhiding in afghanistan, however, in addition to the fight against international terrorism, the states were also interested in the distribution of spheres of influence in the middle east. this situation was used by the united states for expansion in the middle east, in order to create a long-term military presence, a network of strategic military bases on the territory of afghanistan, from where it was possible to contact china, russia and iran. that indestructible freedom will turn out devastatingly. defeat, then, of course, no one suspected, especially initially, the operation against the taliban, a movement under un sanctions for terrorist activities, had a different name, endless justice, which ultimately lasted for 20 years, but abenladan himself was a guest of the taliban, was considered a guest, which means a sacred figure, in many ways for the afghans, secondly, osama bin the incense belonged to relatives, already relatives, to the leader of the taliban, muliomar, and in a word,

when 3000 americans were killed in 9/11, if someone said to the americans don't go after some of bin ladenthe fellow, we said you have to be kidding me. they killed 3000 americans. if you take the small population of the israelis, a new extracted to be 30 million of the us with the same proportion, it'd be 30 to 40,000 americans killed. looking at what happened in 911, 3000 argument we were going to go after those people that did it. imagine that 35,000 had died. ithink that did it. imagine that 35,000 had died. i think you have to recognise that from the israeli viewpoint this was an unforgivable assault upon their people and they cannot have safety for their people were over there people live as long as hamas is committed to killing all the jews. as hamas is committed to killing all thejews. you have that perspective, you have their perspective, you can understand why they are conducting this operation. we will have to _ conducting this operation. we will have to leave it there. thank you so much forjoining us on bbc news tonight. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let

when we were attacked on 9/11, no one stopped and was worried about al qaeda or osama bin laden.ly eliminate hamas and the u.s. needs to stand behind them. >> twenty-nine americans are dead, how do we answer that effectively? how do we send a message it's not okay? >> look what happened in iran when they had our hostages during the carter era and it changed when reagan came into place you are very strong, 15 people from what we understand our hostages, we may see some of them executed. this is a real issue, we need to unite and stand strong and remember what worked in iran during the hostage crisis. it was not appeasement, it wasn't weakness. reagan came in and we got our hostages back. >> thanks so much, appreciate it. we will call you again. straight ahead, is it time to bring back president trump's redline? i will ask mark teasing next what is worse than having no american ambassador in israel? having one that works behind the scenes to give admin access to the financial system without telling anyone. jack lew. his confirmation hearing is set for monday for republicans, they e

they went into afghanistan in search of al qaeda and osama bin laden.n iraq they went in and toppled saddam hussein. so joe biden is saying don't let the rage take over. the rage not just over the killings, the rapes, but now 199 hostages, israelis being held in gaza. israel wants to rescue them. maybe they should let negotiations get folks released. i don't know if israel will allow for that and delay the ground invasion. >> dan and david, we have to leave the conversation there. thank you for your perspective. >> thank you. >>> stay with news central. in just moments we'll take you back to israel to get an update with a spokesperson for israeli defense forces on that hospital blast in gaza. we're back in just a moment. says its war with hamas, quote, will not be short. the chief told israeli armed forces if other enemies get involved israel will have to expand its fight. joining me now is the colonel of the idf. colonel, appreciate you being with us. a u.n. spokesman is declining to acknowledge israel's demand that the chief declare palestinian terror

the september 11 terrorist attacks was placed on al-qaeda, banned in russia, and its leader osama bin ladenition to the fight against international terrorism, the states were also interested in the distribution of spheres influence of the middle east. this situation was used by the united states for expansion in the middle east, with the aim of creating a long-term military presence, a network of strategic military bases in afghanistan, from where it can was... china, russia and iran. of course, no one suspected then that indestructible freedom would turn into a crushing defeat, especially since initially the operation against the taliban was a movement under un sanctions for being terrorists. there was another name, endless justice, which ultimately lasted for 20 years, but samyladan was a guest of the taliban, was considered a guest, this means a sacred figure in many ways for the afghans , secondly, osama bin incense belonged to relatives, already relatives, to the taliban leader muliomar , and in a word its issuance was practically excluded, did not begin - the first operation of the am

you remember by sheer and utter osama bin laden to live. osama bin laden lived in sudan. so that kind of led the effort of a lot of people, god bless your colleague syndicate john danforth. president bush appointed danforth to be special envoy but sudan to everybody interested following the fall of the berlin wall. next, china. when you would go go to chinn remember crist spent and i would go and talk to the underground of catholic bishops and emmett till's the story of the watch what took place at tiananmen and we talked to tiananmen square people, family members and everything china just kind of woke up the world to see what was taking place in china. thirdly, editing this is very important, i don't see it today, i didn't mean that as criticism but i don't say today, the faith community was really involved. i wrote down the names last night, chuck olsen. chuck was just, god bless him, he was on this thing. michael horowitz and i think senator lieberman for michael horowitz with her work this issue. he was with the heritage foundation organ hudson foundation at the time

enormous casualtieses from a surprise terrorist attack at hands of islamist orchestrated by osama bin ladenstan to hide. they harbored him. when president obama to his credit send special forces to pakistan to kill him, they were outraged. now they stand up in human rights council of the un and make a statement that is false. israel left gaza in 2005. blockade? not been a blockade. food and water get into gaza. series of lies and to have a moment of silence for gaza and not acknowledge israelis were massacred, it is out rage. >> todd: sickening. you worked under trump administration, would hamas have attacked if trump was still in place, would iran have felt emboden to help hamas and hezbollah? >> i don't want to engage in counter factual, look at the world for four years, russia invaded ukraine during the obama administration not during the trump administration. russia invaded ukraine in the biden administration and iran had crushing sanctions that had regime on its knees and now they have been empowered, emboldened and supported. president biden made a strong statement about israel right

you think of about more recently osama bin laden thinking that the united states was a weak horse and could be attacked with impunity and eventually he was tracked down and killed by navy s.e.a.l.s. i think that's a common experience that democracies have a hidden strength that dictators and terrorists don't perceive. you're seeing that right now in israel where they've been able to mobilize looiz in just a few days more than 300,000 reserves, that's an a boston thing number. you've seen in russia in the last year people were fleeing the country to avoid being called up to serve the country. israelis are coming from all over the world, flying home to fight and dee if end their country. i think hamas is going to be surprised by the veracity and effectiveness of the israeli response. >> and you know this in any war civilians always seem to pay the highest price, but this was something that was precipitated by an attack, a terrorist attack by hamas on civilians here in israel and israel has decided that it is going to respond in a very different way than in the past. it has declared war.

he was the vice-president when they got bin laden.thought that was the time of for the united states to pull out and move on. if terms of the rage, they are prioritizing keeping innocent civilians in gaza safe. last time i talked to president biden was on friday. i asked what worried him about an israel ground operation into gaza? his answer was death. when he talked tonight about bringing terrorists to justice. i don't think he is worried about terrorists dying. he's taken out terror leaders. he is talking about innocent civilians. he is working the phones to get aid to the innocent civilians. if hamas take the food, water and medicine, it will stop. i think when he talks about he wants them not to make any mistakes, it's just he wants to make sure that the israels adhere to the rules of war and innocent people are not caught in the cross fire which is almost impossible if innocent people are used as human shields. >> sean: they were told if you stay you will die. joining us now fox news contributor charlie hurt and tomi lahren and f

george w bush during the iraq war, you an making excusinged for saudi arabia, i will give -- osama bin laden. what new sanctions is he talking about and where it, it show me the facts. >> he there is no consequence as a result, he is in an awkward position, if administration rec nic recognize iran's role they would have to admit their policies have failed. he has nothing to say. >> look, he does not have to stay there he could move away from podium. and take another job. i am still hot on this john ratcliffe and robert o'brien have given powerful testimony yesterday, last night on the show and friday evening on the show, americans were kill, rob, americans were killed. they have been taken hostage. and the iranians or puppets have been shooting at american assets in the middle east, now these are actions of war, i don't understand, united states has not declared war, clea clearly and plainly against them they still have this fiction, that is driving me crazy that iran was not directly involved in the hamas operation. how do you defend that view? >> you don't. in the end of the day there are

>> judge from israeli officials compare the leader from hamas to usama bin laden.lling 1400's release in october 7th massacre and the leader of hamas, here is his name. the head of israeli forces calling the dead man walking, as you mentioned, believed to be in the gaza strip. and joined not long after 1987, two years later arrested by israel for involvement in abduction and killing of two is a release in torture and murder of four palestinians he considered to be collaborators. sentenced to life in prison, yahya sinwar serving 22 years in israeli jail and released as part of a prisoner exchange and abducted israeli soldier in 2011. the israeli soldier spent over five years in hamas captivity. he returned to gaza and became a popular leader in hamas, affiliate of muslim brotherhood. and judges, she will know, the israeli forces and intelligence services go back to 1976 with the raid, of course, 2010 israeli commandos and intelligence operatives went to uae to track and kill senior hamas leader. judge. >> judge jeanine: all right, lucas, thank you so much, stay safe