so much like lynn was to global communism, bin laden was a unique visionary. the unique attitude problem posed by bin laden's al qaeda was its incredible effort to grasp itself on the top of the movement. it's one progress of call option was brought together largely and in most significant ways in the region we're talking about here. talibanistan. so i think that's important as a marker as to why this is so important in the chapter i established and assess the five elements of bin laden's al qaeda that made it historically unique and conspicuously severe threats and then go on from there to argue that why the threat is received and what applications it has for us to better appreciate dynamics, the region dynamics that underlie the present and the future in south asia, particularly in afghanistan and pakistan. first i argue that the five elements of the bin laden's al qaeda that made it unique was it aspired to be a wa court order session dedicated to planning, recruiting and training and organizing of this is important work, catastrophic global terrorist incid

it is called the killing of so is ma bin laden. did torture play a role in finding osama bin laden and killing him. >> yes it did. it played a role it didn't play a key role but definitely speaking specifically, the fact that there was this fellow called ahmed from kuwait surfaced in a number of the early coercive interrogations. at the time the interrogators and the c.i.a. didn't know who that was in particular so i would have to say the most important piece of information and i don't know how we obtained it exactly was connecting that from kuwait to a real person ahmed. that was really the key. so i think those who argue that the hunt for bin laden really gained traction when we attach that name to a person can argue i think fairly that from that point and including that point there was no torture involved. but the fact that we were interested in this ahmed came from a number of interviews that are actually fairly notorious. >> rose: peter same question. >> well look the senate intelligence committee has spent three years investi

>> it provided the lead information on osama bin laden.the enhanced interrogation program was much more than just getting osama bin laden. it was protecting the country and saving american lives. years. >> a couple of factual questions about the film. the main character, was that a fictional composition of different people who were looking after bin laden? i understand this is classified. was there one person that was really that template? did you actually really give italian sports cars to middlemen to obtain information? if so, which cars were they? [laughter] the deadly attack on the outpost, did that really happen because the local person was so eager to talk to the person? >> first of all about maya, all of us can claim we know a maya. clearly, the character in the movie is a composite. my wife will kill me. we were talking to her sister the other day and she said something about the movie being politically correct by making the woman the heroine. my wife responded this is an incredible band of sisters that spearheaded the ubl cell. t

also the hunt for osama bin laden. former director of the national security agency and the director of the intelligence agency. i got to know him back in 2006, when i was asked to write the president's speech revealing the existence of the interrogation program. he was very kind to give me access to all the intelligence and introduced me to the men and women who conducted the interrogation. but he is not only one of the smartest people i know. he is one of the most compelling witnesses. when he came into the office, the program had been suspended. he was not involved in its initial creation. he conducted a partial assessment. he gathered all the information and had to advise the president whether or not to restart it. he concluded he could not advise the president not to have an interrogation program. we will ask him to explain why that is. jose rodriguez is the former director of the cia service. he was an undercover officer, becoming the head of the cia's counter-terrorism center. including the interrogation program

his latest book is "the finish: the killing of osama bin laden."writes for "the atlantic" and teaches journalism at the university of delaware. jane mayer, you've written that "zero dark thirty" "distorts a difficult history, seems to turn torture into morally neutral entertainment." give me the essence of the problem you see. >> well, the filmmakers say in the beginning it's based on real accounts. so it sets up an expectation that it will be accurate history of what happened during those years in the war on terror and instead what it does is distorts the history, i felt, by leaving out the complete moral and ethical and political context in which this torture program took place. there were fights from start to finish about whether torture was something appropriate for the united states to get involved in. it's not just whether it worked but it was whether we could do better and whether it was illegal and wrong. and not a whiff of that is in this movie. so i felt by missing it, it missed the real drama of that period. >> brown: you wrote "the crit

his latest book is "the finish: the killing of osama bin laden."ites for "the atlantic" and teaches journalism at the university of delaware. jane mayer, you've written that "zero dark thirty" "distorts a difficult history seems to turn torture into morally neutral entertainment." give me the essence of the problem you see. >> well the filmmakers say in the beginning it's based on real accounts. so it sets up an expectation that it will be accurate history of what happened during those years in the war on terror and instead what it does is distorts the history i felt by leaving out the complete moral and ethical and political context in which this torture program took place. there were fights from start to finish about whether torture was something appropriate for the united states to get involved in. it's not just whether it worked but it was whether we could do better and whether it was illegal and wrong. and not a whiff of that is in this movie. so i felt by missing it it missed the real drama of that period. >> brown: you wrote "the criticism i

it is called the killing of so is ma bin laden. did torture play a role in finding osama bin laden and killing him. >> yes, it did. it played a role, it didn't play a key role but definitely speaking specifically, the fact that there was this fellow called ahmed from kuwait surfaced in a number of the early coercive interrogations. at the time the interrogators and the c.i.a. didn't know who that was in particular so i would have to say the most important piece of information, and i don't know how we obtained it exactly was connecting that from kuwait to a real person ahmed. that was really the key. so i think those who argue that the hunt for bin laden really gained traction when we attach that name to a person can argue i think fairly that from that point and including that point there was no torture involved. but the fact that we were interested in this ahmed came from a number of interviews that are actually fairly notorious. >> rose: peter same question. >> well look, the senate intelligence committee has spent three years inv

. >>> the hunt for osama bin laden that parted a senate investigation. writer opens up about the zero dark controversy. >> keep it right here, >>> from new york city, this is "nightline" with terry moran. >> thanks for joining us tonight. the numbers are shocking. each year americans throw away enough food to fill 730 football stadiums. to bring that closer to home, maybe, the average american family throws out $190 worth of food every month. and part of all that waste might be due to surprising mistakes you might not realize you're making. for our series "easy money". >> reporter: met rebecca dickinson, a stay at home mom feeding a family of four in new jersey. she makes breast breakfast, packs school lunches and cooks dinner four times a week for her two kids and husband jeff who is a financial planner. add it up enit is a significant bill with a challenge. what is your weekly food bill? >> close to 300. >> all in? giving or take. >> reporter: 1200 to $1500 a month. >> yeah. >> reporter: but how much goes to waste? the average u.s. household tosses out

whatever it is, i bet it tastes good fried. [ laughter ] then, controversy over the new bin laden film. they shouldn't have let him do his own singing. [ laughter ] and my guest, chris kluwe, is an nfl punter and gay rights advocate. wow, pretty brave for an nfl player to admit he's a punter. [ laughter ] jimmy kimmel starts in his new 11:35 time slot tonight. but since he's my direct competition, i refuse to mention him. this is "the colbert report." captioning sponsored by comedy central ["the colbert report" theme music playing] [cheers and applause] thank you, ladies and gentlemen. welcome to the report. [crowd chanting see stephen] [cheers and applause] thank you, ladies and gentlemen. [cheers and applause] welcome to the report, folks. i have to thank you for that and i want to thank you for joining me in here, out there nation, we all know the economy's not in great shape. just today the dow dropped fifty five-- of whatever it is. [ laughter ] dow-lers. [ laughter ] so i was glad to hear that one of my investments skyrocketed in value today. >> forever is going to cost you more,

we saw it happened with bin laden in afghanistan. here we're seeing it happen in mali. i do think it's a monumental problem. and you know, we kind of have this--what i would almost call a naive geopolitical outlook of my enemy's enemy is always my friend. we've seen time and again that that simply is not true. >> glenn, question for you, do you feel like this feeds into what you write about often this perpetual war that we're in. this perpetual war on terror. do you really believe federal agents are totally unaware of the fact that these people are going to flip on us? or do you think--i know this sounds conspiracial, but this has been done knowing in the fur that they possibly could flip on us and then help fuel more wars in the future? >> yeah, everything we're talking about tonight is not unknown to the u.s. government. there are reports going back a decade that the reason there are so many people in the world who want to hate us and want to talk us we interfere with their countries, bomb their countries invade them. back up israel. we'll continue to fuel the very wa

it's the same picture of when we got bin-laden. it's great we got bin-laden.s concerned about gun control. to see oh, i'm so struck about it it would have been nicer if he would have done something about it before with gun control. gabrielle giffords will be meeting with connecticut governorgovernancey wymangovernor governor ygovernor i didn't nan. in 21 days we've had 427 gun deaths since the the connecticut massacre. it's a slow massacre and we're all living in it. >> congress has proposed ten pieces of legislation in order to deal with gun violence. democrats proposed eight new gun safety bills and republicans proposed two bills eliminating begun-free zones. to give a sense of what democrats are trying to get accomplished when it comes to gun control they want to ban high capacity ammunition and close loopholes and they want anyone who gets a gun to have a background check. the guns have to be registered. we need to comprehensive database to keep track of those who do buy a gun so only the most responsible individuals get their hands on guns. it's interesti

analysts to conclude that bin laden was hiding in abbattabad.inees subjected to enhanced techniques, but there were many other sources as well. contrary to what her film might suggest "zero dark thirty" director catherine bigelow seems to agree. >> i think it's been a very controversial issue. it's been debated since the early part of 2000 and it will ton to be debated. since it's part of the history we had to show a few sequences of enhanced interrogation but again there are many techniques that led to the compound in abattabad. >> john: and those secrets are shown, and shown well but the question is were those a lead to bin laden. joining me now to discuss the cover surrounding the film jim clemene, former fbi academy interrogation instructor and allison bailes, a film critic for "more" magazine. welcome. is the film pro torture. and is the torture that led us to bin laden. >> unfortunately it does. it shows that in the torture he gave up the information. the one character maya, who was there to show how horrendous torture was she goes on to h

they had the bin laden stamps and all the buildings. is that for irony? after that things kind of changed and the world trade center bombings and september 11 of course we all know what happened that day. i was actually flying that morning and we had come back from the middle east, from another rotation. monday september 10 was our first day back. on the morning of september 11 i was actually flying and i had come down very very early and somebody said you have got to look at this. i remembered thinking as i looked at that first tower, what kind of a of the pilot could hit a tower that size on a clear day? i thought it was an accident. and then the second plane hit and we obviously figured that out. they sent a bunch of those up to close down the airspace over the united states. i talk about their too because for pilot that is really eerie. ..

if we stay after killing bin laden, we have lost our purpose. he said the worst thing we can do is get bogged down without getting out. it wasn't that long ago, but it was interesting to look back a year and eight months ago to when bin laden was killed. i mean, at the time, anybody else think that maybe that would have meant we would come home from afghanistan? it seemed like one of the real possibilities that opened up with that almost unbelievable news on that cold night in may. but we did not leave afghanistan after this happened. this was roughly 600 days ago. we've got another 700 days ahead of us before the white house says this war will officially end, nearly two years from now. but how many american troops are left there between now and then? and what are those troops expected to do? how much fighting are they going to be doing? how much of our 11 and a half yearlong war is going to continue to result in americans getting hurt and killed between now and then? all of that remains to be decided. what is going to happen in afghanistan this

>> he didn't tell you about osama bin laden. he didn't tell you how to get him. didn't tell you how to find him. >> some of these people were not going to tell us everything. >> so you don't break them, and they told you lies. >> there is a limit to what they will tell us. >> here is what i had heard. that khalid sheikh mohammed told you the courier had retired and threw you off the scent for a while. >> that was the one secret he was going to take to the grave, and that was the protection of the sheikh. he was not going to tell us. >> so, david corn, there are two of the principals, ali soufan and jose rodriguez, telling significantly different stories. how are we to sorts this out? >> mike isikoff and i wrote a book called "hubris" going into the case of al libi who the fbi was getting information from. the cia came in and took him away from the fbi. he ended up in an egyptian cell, and it wasn't just that he didn't give information that was useful. he gave false information. he cooked up a whole story that saddam hussein was working with al qaeda and training

. -- to kill osama bin laden i.ators say that the movie claims that waterboarding beatled to the discovery of osama bin laden. the pakistani teenager shot by a taliban gunman is out of the hospital malala yousafzai was shot in the head. the attack prompted international outrage, and at the girl became a symbol of courage and hope for many trade issue will continue to receive outpatient care as she works to fully recover. adam caskey here. a brisk morning. but good things ahead. >> things will slowly warm up over the next couple of days. closer to 50 by the middle part of next week. >> i will take a 50. >> it will come with some rain. we could use some moisture. sorry, scott. this is culpeper earlier this morning right around the sunrise. thank you for posting that on my facebook page. look at that northwesterly wind, about 10 miles per hour. at times it feels like 30, and with the highest costs, it feels like the upper 20s -- the highest guessts, it feels like the upper 20s. this is frostburg, maryland. still plenty

>> he didn't tell you about osama bin laden. he didn't tell you how to get him.t tell you how to find him. >> some of these people were not going to tell us everything. >> so you don't break them, and they told you lies. >> there is a limit to what they will tell us. >> here is what i had heard. that khalid sheikh mohammed told you the courier had retired and threw you off the scent for a while. >> that was the one secret he was going to take to the grave, and that was the protection of the sheikh. he was not going to tell us. >> so, david corn, there are two of the principals, ali soufan and jose rodriguez, telling significantly different stories. how are we to sorts this out? >> mike isikoff and i wrote a book called "hubris" going into the case of al libi who the fbi was getting information from. the cia came in and took him away from the fbi. he ended up in an egyptian cell, and it wasn't just that he didn't give information that was useful. he gave false information. he cooked up a whole story that saddam hussein was working with al qaeda and training them t

. >>> the new film "zero dark thirty" is about the manhunt of osama bin laden.it's seen by some as being quite controversial but the movie is receiving loud buzz from oscar voters. >> bigad shaban has that story. >> reporter: military speak for 12:30 a.m. tells the story of the ten-year manhunt for osama bin laden and the daring raid that took out the al qaeda leader. the c.i.a. agent refused to give up the search. >> there are two narratives about the location of osama bin laden. the second narrative says he's living in the city. >> reporter: this woman gave up everything for this mission. the charter she plays is based on a real person but she's never met her. >> she's real. she's completely real. she doesn't look like me. i couldn't be more different than her in that. i'm a very emotional girl and this is a girl who's trained to be unemotional. and trained to be analytically precise. >> reporter: the hurt locker team director katherine bigelow and mark bull made the movie based on firsthand accounts. >> hopefully through playing her it's banking her and givin

osama bin laden was shot in the head. should we release them?on't know. >> obama: photos of someone being shot in the head floating around. >> cenk: let 'em go, let 'em go. and historic as usual, global warming all over the united states and now it's costing business in mississippi. and then we have a person who is an activist for the dream act and then all of a sudden her mother gets picked up by the authorities. get a look at this reaction. [ sobbing ] >> cenk: she's going to be on the show today. and then finally here we go again, another republican talking about legitimate rape. >> it is true. we tell couples all the time who are having trouble consuming because of the woman not ovulating, just relax. >> cenk: now wait until you find out the number of women who get pregnant because of rape in america. it's a stunning number. this is a stunning show. go time. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: all right we got some good news about afghanistan, and the good news is we're leaving. president obama met with hamid karzai, the leader of afghanistan. >> the for

. >> sean: and that led to bin laden?ly we got the true name of him. >> sean: but without the techniques, the things he opposed wouldn't have allowed him to make that decision, is that a fair statement? >> that's a fair statement. >> sean: two navy seals who watched the movie are here to set the record street. joining me is the authors, a seal team six. thanks for seeing the movie. howard, you heard, this is a guy that set up, organized, witnessed enhanced interrogation. no enhanced interrogation bin laden, liberals are going nuts, it's inaccurate? >> i spoke to mr. rodriguez and i know he's telling the truth. my other reaction is, watching the movie, after watching the movie for about 30 minutes you realize that this is an effective technique. you realize that the cia operatives, tier one guys are doing a great job and in the background it shows the president of the united states saying that we need to achieve some type of moral morality, we need to get our morality, moral superiority and i'm sitting there and literally

but that hasn't happened when it came to bin laden. president obama made the announcement. most of the world rejoiced that had finally come to pass. felt more at peace because of it. not that many conspiracy theories of things that the military didn't carry through. >> andrea: there were a couple on random blogs after it happened. i don't want to make a perverse spectacle out of his death. but i was thinking about it today. i remember pictures of the ambassador stevens and how beat up he was. and i thought you know what? i do want to see the photos. i want to see the knowcos. they're terrible. i understand there is a fear about them inciting violence. i have news for you. i won't tiptoe around and i don't think the country should tiptoe around the radical islamists. they will try to kill us anyway video or no video. so i don't think we should just dance around and stifle our rights not to anger them or upset them. >> bob: my concern the most ally we have there is turkey. i would like to see nothing to tip that over or put people in har

why would osama bin laden want to be 35 miles from islamabad?hy would he want to be steps away from pakistan's equivalent of west point? did any of this make sense? >> narrator: the president called together his national security team. >> he said to his national security team in the situation room, "i want everybody to tell me what your view is, what you would do, what your recommendation is." and he got a very mixed response. i think of the people in the room, it was probably 50%, roughly, were in favor of the raid option that we ended up taking. >> narrator: only the president could make the final decision on whether to send u.s. troops into pakistan. >> he also knew that if it had gone wrong, there would not only have been dramatically negative consequences for the men he sent in, and for our country's security, but also for his own politics. it very well could have been a career-ending decision. >> narrator: the president decided to authorize the operation for sunday, may 1. >> i think that was one of the longest days that he's had as presid

suggests water boarding is what lid to the killing of osama bin laden.ide, members of the world can't wait and amnesty international staged a protest trying to stop movie goers from seeing the film. >> are we, have we lost our}/ moral compass? that is what i hear when i think torture. >> most people had the same reaction as antonio. >> it's not a documentary. it's basically a work of fiction. >> the film makers have been quick to point out it's a movie but cia did provide and now, senators are writing with questions about what sort of access they were given and what information was obtained through water boarding or other quote, enhanced techniques. >> you believe whilegmq watching this movie water boarding leads to information that leads them to elimination of osama bin laden. that is not the case. >> in december, the acting cia director called the film a drama. and adding this strong impression key is a false impression. some told protestors they were wrong. linda was uncertain she thought about water boarding. >> it's hard to say. >> i'm asking you if

>> it provided the lead information on osama bin laden. enhanced interrogation program was much more than just getting osama bin laden. it was protecting the country and saving american lives. it allowed us to do it for 10 years. >> a couple of factual questions about the film. the main character, was that a fictional composition of different people who were looking after bin laden, i understand this is classified, was there one person that was really that a template? did you actually really give italian sports car to middlemen to obtain information? if so, which cars were they? [laughter] the deadly attack on the outpost, did that really happy? -- happen because the local person was so eager to talk to the person? >> first of all a boutmaya, all of us can claim we know eightmaa maya. clearly, and the character in the movie is a composite. my wife will kill me. we were talking to her sister the of their day and she said something about the movie being politically correct by making the woman the heroin. by what responded -- my wife responde