smith, toe bin smith, pat dorsey, eric bowling, along with democratic strategist, sarah flowers. welcome to everybody. ok, eric, bottom line, is pork in the healthcare bill good or bad medicine for the economy? >> honestly, i'm sick and tired of government telling me how i'm going to work and play, and now i'm going toer and sismse the bottom line, the healthcare bill was supposed to address the availability of healthcare and the cost of healthcare. it really wasn't supposed to go and tell me when i'm going to work out and whether or not i should go buy, you know, a squash that toe bin -- >> don't start calling me squash. a brenda: we're not going there, ok? air, the argument from supporters say this does exactly get to the point of the cost of healthcare, because it's prevention. >> it absolutely does. this is prevention. what we're calling pork here, because it's a nice buzzword, really is prevention. it's the tactics of how you make a healthier community. and in the end, how you save dollars. we're talking about creating jungle gym as soon as that kids can go outside and play

smith, toe bin smith, pat dorsey, and welcome to everybody. government-run healthcare takes a hit, stocks take off. a coincidence? >> not at all. this is absolutely a reaction to people saying, wait a minute, if we don't pass this insane idea and we're not going add 5% surcharges on the people who actually earn the money, pay their taxes to the united states, we're not going to be in a situation where we're forcing millions of people into a plan that already we can't afford and that we were going to pay for it with money that we don't? that is exactly why the market came back this week. brenda: chart man, you always talk about resistance. well, healthcare reform hit resistance, and stocks broke out. is that what wall street is trying to say? >> listen, i agree with toby. in fact, i'll even expand t. i think everyone's kind of getting the feeling that this whole kind of socialist move that the government's trying to force on everyone is at least slowing down a little bit. look, let's -- toby is right about healthcare. it looks like, you know, t

bin laden? i'm shepard smith. this is the news. as his poll numbers take another plunge, the president hits the road trying to sell his health care plan to real americans. >> it may be coming too soon for some in washington but it's not soon enough for the american people. shepard: but he still faces a fight back in d.c. >> the president has been on a mad tear. we need to slow him down. shepard: now a big setback from a fellow democrat. and osama bin laden's son apparently killed in a u.s. attack. what does that mean for the most wanted terrorist on the planet? his name, saad bin laden and sources tell fox news that it's likely he was killed in a u.s. air strike in pakistan earlier this year. the news comes for a deadly month in afghanistan. the 35th u.s. service member killed today in the southern part of that country. that's where the marines are trying to take back the taliban strong hold. the air strike that may have killed bin laden's son happened in the tribal area near the border of pakistan. that's why osama bin laden and o