there are lots of them starting with the cia man, bing garland. i think that, you know, war there were bunch of people who stayed in vietnam for a long time and they they saw what it was like mostly civilians working for the cia and other agent sees and in many ways they got to it by the country and thought that they could somehow make it better but were unable to do it. and edward lansdale is a good example of that. there've been a lot of books written about his role in in advising the government about how to fight against emergency and in and use more intelligent tactics than. we did. but i think when you see that kind of a war where the south was corrupt in manyays it didn't represent people many of the people were stealing goods. you could go to the black market and buy everything that american soldiers were meant have from sea rations to jeeps, almost. and it was easy to become cynical quickly. and the whole body. count idea that that we were going to figure out how won the war by counting the number people would kill. that was just completel