. >> that could be a har binger of things to come.stock market, it's been on a tear this year as well. when you talk to americans. look at the number from the cnn/orc poll. 24% believe the economy is starting to recover. 39% think it's getting worse. >> yes. >> the skepticism, it's pervasive in the numbers. why? >> it's interesting. it's not just in this survey but in a lot of the consumer confidence numbers. they were down very dramatically in october, down again in november. part of that was due to the fact you were seeing the government shutdown this fall, the problems with the rollout of obama care. there was this sense that the government is not getting its act together and it's a headwind to growth. but i think in another sense, you talk about the stock market being up. you have to remember that the top quarter of americans, the top 20%, 25% of americans, own 75% of the stocks. so sure, you feel that stock market ticking up if you're wealthy, but if you don't own a lot of stocks or you don't own a home in a strong -- >> you feel