and--and i explained that she had created this novel concept called biomimicry, and they nodded, and anderson, which, you know, these were good ol' georgia boys. i mean, he's a a good ol' georgia boy, too, but these were good ol' georgia boys, and-d--ad you could just feel it in the room. no one said it exactly, but it was like, "but, well, she's a girl." ha ha! [laughter] i tell you, you could cut it, and, um, and i said, "yeah, she is thehe female part of our species. that's true," and... [laughter] and then when they said yes, then i had to convince janine to come to interface... [laughter] and--and she said, "oh, really?" you know, "what could i possibly do for a carpet comompany?" and, u, but she did come, and not long after, she went for a walk in