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the fight against bioterror.l is live in philly. >> if you need medicine delivered to residents in a major metropolitan area no one better than the postal service. they have the equipment, resources and the volunteers. 1500 letter carriers in five major cities, including philadelphia, where bill schneider signed up for the postal plan initiative in the event of a bioterrorism attack. they'll be called to distribution points where they pick up loads of antibiotics and pamphlets with protective gear and police escorts and deliver medicines. >> it's an extension of what we do here. we serve the public. we live here. it's kind of an extended family. and if something like this goes down, people are going to need help. who better than your letter carrier to deliver the medicine needed. >> but like all programs, this one cost money. that money has to come from congress. usps and hhs need $5 million to fund the program for three years or they can't expand to other cities or maintain where they've trained to respond to bi

three out of every colonoscopies were not properly cleaned for tools and they have what people call bioterrord how common is it that this kind of equipment never gets truly clean. >> well, it goes through a sterilization process and they still may be watching those small holes. they are usually inconsequential for patients afterwards because it is sterile dirt. where is this is really clean, dirt, if you would. gerri: that is almost too complicated for my mind to comprehend. but it is highly technical. we are talking about the particular diseases that these people may have contracted in hospitals. these symptoms could take years to show up? the pathology is so different. in fact, it behaves in a much different manner raid the disease is not very common. when it does occur, it can have an incubation. of years and not demonstrate any symptoms. patients cannot display symptoms that can be so hard to study the disease. secondly, it's very quickly to die from. once you start demonstrating the pieces, the symptoms on average, you die within one year. it's a real challenge the. gerri: there is reall

if there was a bioterror attack, some of those workers would come racing back here, including bob schneider veteran that is one of some 600 volunteers in this area to put on protective gear, grab a load of antibiotics and take to the streets with a police escort delivering medicine to every single resident within 48 hours of a bioterror incident. the postal plan initiative is one in cooperation with health and human services in five major cities including san diego, and minneapolis and st. paul. >> i live here, again, this is my home. and i don't want to see anything happen to anyone. so if we can prevent a tragedy and call for people and save their lives, then i am in. reporter: arv had their own medicine, then they go and give it to others as well. but the congress has to appropriate more money or they will run out of funds at the end of the month. this program and for others to die. jon: let's hope we never see that kind of attack. it's good that they're preparing for her. rick leventhal, thank you. jenna: now that survivors of the terror attack are speaking out, we will talk a little bi

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when the government asked for volunteers to deliver antibiotics in the event of an anthrax or other bioterrorack, he didn't hesitate to say yes. >> i live here. this is my home. i don't want to see anything happen to anybody. so if we can prevent a tragedy and save lives, then i'm in. >> reporter: the postal plan initiative funded by the department of health and human services is in place in five cities -- san diego, louisville, minneapolis/st. paul, boston and philly, with 1,500 volunteers who have been fitted for protective suits. in the event of an attack, they take the medicine and head to a postal distribution point where they meet a police escort and make their rounds, delivering the antidote to every single home within 48 hours. >> while we're not in the same class of a fireman or policeman, it's our way of being able to provide support for the public in a time of crisis. >> reporter: but time may be about to run out. the usps and hhs have asked congress for another $5 million to keep the program alive. but the looming government shutdown could mean the end is near. >> i don't see why

greg is a senior fellow of the arms control association and leonard is an expert on bioterrorism andk you for joining us. leonard, when we say, when he says signatures, what does that mean? >> any trace of evidence that the chemical was there or is there now. that can be tissue samples from people who were exposed to it, blood samples from these people or some of the material itself. the sarin gas in particular degrades pretty quickly so you might not find the chemical itself after a few days or even two weeks, but would you find some of the breakdown chemicals from the sarin. >> are you convinced that sarin gas or chemical weapons were used? >> short of being there, every piece of evidence i heard, including the vice president's persuasive remarks convince me it is so. >> greg, are you convinced by the evidence? >> i am also convinced. it does occur to me in this case the intelligence community is being very careful about the language it uses and has built a very convincing case. >> i guess people think it's such a horrible act, obviously, for chemical weapons to be used, but people

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anthrax is a great weapon but not as pan dem cantic weapon, because the problem is if you develop a bioterrorpandemic weapon, how can you be sure it's not going to kill all your people off as well as those people? so unless you want to depopulate the planet, i'm not fairly worried about that. i talk about two major cases of bioterrorrism. we all know about the stories about smallpox being given to the american indians. but the real bioterrorrists have really been the australians. but it's not directed to humans, it was directed at rabbits. the country was totally overrun with rabbits. we introduced a virus which killed off most of the rabbits, and that was very good, but then they gradually became resistant, and it only kills about 50% of the rabbits. someone brought it back to france thinking they could keep it just on their property, and it got all over europe. and, of course, people in europe like rabbits. we kind of don't like rabbits. [laughter] then, of course, the rabbit numbers climbs, so they got another virus, and they released that, and that killed a lot of rabbits. anytime l new z

a bioterrorism expert and author of "the anthrax letters, a medical detective story" joins us. us. a lot of people want to know what this means. signatures of sarin. what does that mean? signatures of sarin? >> well, the signature is simply a term for identification of whether sarin is present or not. it means that if you would find, say, tissue samples from people who were thought to have been exposed or blood or even hair samples, if they have been exposed for some days previously, you can identify by chemical analysis whether you have actually seen sarin present. that would be a signature. >> is that conclusive proof? >> yes. you can develop a series of tests and ultimately some very refined determinations through laboratory testing. you can see the area that was presumably exposed was definitely exposed to this chemical. >> couldn't there be false positives? >> you could initially get false positives. not all tests are down to the refinement level of the actual definition of what the chemical makeup is. if there's been a chemical attack, for example. but you're not sure wha