mike birbiglia. >> seth: birbiglia, who wrote and directed it. >> mm-hmm. >> seth: but, you know, part out. >> exactly, right, right. they never tell you. they just kind of look at you like, good for you. [ light laughter ] but when i auditioned -- the time that i auditioned for "mad tv", the guys had come in, and what happened was all i had heard was that they were looking for three women to replace. they were only going to replace three women. and i was just like, "well, i don't have a vagina, so i'm good to go." >> seth: yeah. >> you know, i just figured i was fine. so, you know, because the hardest thing is when you hear a producer is there. >> seth: yeah. >> and then all the tenants of improv, you're trying to keep them intact, which is care about the fellow player. you're doing a good job if you make them look good, team work, collaboration, but you really want to go -- i'm here! [ laughter ] hire me! and so it's really, really difficult to -- you start to become ambivalent, you know? >> seth: yeah. >> but that night for me, i thought, "oh, they're not looking at me. they're not