well, it is gut wrenching and redoubling the efforts, not only in birkenhead, but making sure that wea duty to make sure like we've done throughout feeding britain projects that we combine voluntary bodies who have been terrific in birkenhead, are given the resources to make sure that every child, even though we provide 2,000 meals during the school holidays, there was that little girl turning up, she hent been covered saying, "can i come in, i'm hungry?" you will have heard some say it is because parents can't budget properly? there are clearly pa rents budget properly? there are clearly parents who couldn't give a toss and it is ludicrous to deny and you wonder why the hell they have got children and then there are others who are at their wits end trying to do their best by their children. who are driven almost mad by the difficulties of budgeting particularly when the government ta kes particularly when the government takes money off by sanction. particularly we are now at the almost at the end of this of we hope almost at the end of this of we hope a period of welfare cuts for fam