let's go straight to birmingham. claire marshall is there for us. >> i am here with three young people, all of whom study here at the university, and all of whom will vote for the first time in the next election. let me introduce you to these three. challenge you for joining us. it has been a difficult year for politicians. how do you feel about them? >> a lot of people are dissolutioned about politics and it is sad. personally i'm quite in favor of it. i am looking forward to politics in the next year because i think today we are going to outline policy for local people, how people can be better in the work place and tackling unemployment. >> i don't feel particularly disi will louised, though i think it is very easy to see why young people might feel that way. you go to university and you come out with thousands of pounds of debt at a very young age and high levels of unemployment as well. until the government continues to make issues about this, young people will fill disengaged. >> what are the politicians doing?

quick -- picked up very quickly on that theme before we talk to some young people in birmingham about their perspective. i'm sure there will be interested what do you think that parliament is impressing people outside with the seriousness of its intent? >> i don't think it is impressing people at all. i think that attempts to change the expensive system is too little, too late. why on earth did it take the scandal being across the front page of national newspapers for three months for us to realize that we need to do that? nick cleeg has been arguing for a citizens' assembly. that would make a real difference in the long term. if you look at the kind of people have found themselves in the middle of the scandal on expenses, they were much likely to be in very safe seats. if you look at who found themselves in real difficulty. in order to get rid of these, the system of safe seats, that would make a real difference for politics in the long term. make people genuinely accountable to the public. >> what about the response to it? >> the expectation is that we will continue the job of refor

the views of young people from birmingham university.ack to you. >> claire, thank you very much. it brings to us a discussion about what is the next six months going to be like in terms of the wider political debate as we approach the next election. what are people going to be focusing on? what kind of election campaign are we actually looking at? >> well, we already know what the themes are of the two big parties and the question is whether anything breaks up or combrupts their capacity. -- interrupts it. government has an important role in people's lives and tory government would not give the money or give the support that labour argues they need. we're hearing from heather tether and look, there's important reform that neither of these two big parties are committed to. that's the narrative they've got. they've written the scripts. they are at agencies preparing the customers and writing the leafets. the speeches are already written. the question is which real events break that up -- if we'd been talking a year ago, lehman brothers has

eight inches, the purple shading by birmingham north of atlanta and back to the carolinas. that's over the next two days. >> what i find amazing is the storm is not that strong. but yet look how far inland people are going to get 8 inches of rain. >> it's because there's a cold front here. that's going to drag it up kind of like a conveyor belt and throw it across the entire mid-atlantic. that's the reason why you see rain that far inland today. >> all right. thank you. >> you've got it. >> i know you know the news because you watch the show and we just fill your brain with it. well, prove it. challenge your friends. challenge yourself. text your knowledge of the news. you can pick your favorite anchor. no pressure but i am one of them. at least i hope i am. cnnchallenge.com. good luck. >>> if you have plans to fly for the holiday season, we have good news about the airlines. also ahead, just because you're 106 years old doesn't mean you can't do the shuffle. see how a veteran celebrated his birthday. >>> okay. here's what's making headlines in some of the papers. the "l.a.

thank you to your guests in birmingham.nd really it brings us to a discussion about what is the next six months going to be like in terms of the wider political debate as we approach the next election? what are people going to be focusing on? what kind of election campaign are we actually looking at? >> we already noaa the themes are of the two big parties, and the question is whether it breaks up or interrupts their capacity to get that. we have been hearing again and again from chris, they have had 12 years. they have had their chance, and government has money it essentially. we hear that government has an important role in people's lives and a torre government would not give the money or the support that labor argues they need. we're hearing from the liberal democrat, look there's important reform that neither of the parties are committed to. that's the narrative. they have written the scripts and their ad agency are preparing the commercials and writing the leaflets and the speech is written. the question is what real e

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notice some of the heaviest rain all the way inland up into birmingham, alabama. atlanta, georgia could see several inches of rain. and because of that, we have flood watches posted. likely, these will change over to warnings into tomorrow. very heavy rain expected for this region, and also back out as far west as texas because the storm is pretty wide. here is what to expect as we break it down for the next 12 to 24 hours. possibly coastal flooding, power outages likely due to the intense winds. and this is headed toward the mid atlantic, so as we go through the next couple days, we'll see the wind and rain. christie, hopefully it will die down in intensity by that time. >> thank you very much for the late latest. >>> the suspect in the ft. hood shootings, major nidal hasan is now conscious and talking at a hospital in san antonio. officials aren't saying whether he is talking about the rampage it is. 16 victims are in the hospital and 7 in intensive care. the commander at f hood is focused on helping victims to heal. and wants to prevent any future outbursts of

lastly, students and faculty at the university of alabama birmingham participated in the school's oldest tradition, the gurney derby. each team has two men and two women and one nonliving passenger on the gurney which is a doll of some kind. >> so they're not real people, little pets or something. >> it would be a much bigger story if it were. that is a look at sports. >> all right, rafer, thanks so much. >>> police call it the home depot of stolen property. officers in missouri city, missouri, found pickup trucks, farm equipment, brand-new appliances, in a field outside a dilapidated house. deputies were checking out a report someone there had shot at a neighbor's dog and found an 8-year-old boy living in the home with a loose python. deputies arrest add woman and are looking for a man they saw get away. >>> a sex tape of former miss california usa carrie prejean apparently led to her sudden legal settlement with the pageant according to a source close to the case and the story is getting a lot of attention on cnn.com right now. tmz says it got the home video in the summer but it was to

birmingham, alabama, 3.88. even gainesville, 3.82 inches of rain. the rain continues around the carolinas and virginia, now maryland, too, and philadelphia might get showers. that's about it. heaviest rain buford, i-95, this region here. savannah, you'll pick up rain and thunderstorms, too. not severe. heavy rainmakers. see that off and on. heavy shield out of charlotte going through piedmont into the raleigh area. durham getting decent rain. greensboro moving northward through virginia into washington, d.c. it's going to be steady for the entire morning. if you think we're not going to see delays in the airport, i think we are. we're going to see a lot of them. atlanta, d.c., as the clouds hang in low, they are going to hang in tough, too. what about warnings for flooding. we have them there. bright shaded green areas, atlanta, greenville, back towards charlotte. dark shaded green, those are the flash flood watches. the reason pretty easy. a lot of rain potentially there. talking maybe as much as five inches of rain near the beltway of washington,

so this is a welcomed sign for mark fox because saturday night in birmingham, of course, a game he'd like to forget, they came out and hit the first three and u.a.b. went out and rattled off the eight points. crawford had 21 and georgia was never closer than double digits in the second half. litterial: good quality win for u.a.b. u.a.b. has an up and coming team. for georgia to go in there and play again especially with the youth of georgia and with them not having much depth. matt: and georgia with 71 points tonight. 11 points above their season average. litterial: a welcome sign by coach fox. i mean, you know, you're playing against asheville, a team that, you know, doesn't have the manpower that you have, but just to see georgia come out here and play well, play with confidence, run their offense, you know, be efficient in their offense is really, really good for coach fox and this team. matt: the georgia bulldogs may end the night with as many three-pointers as they had in the first three games combined. litterial: to consistently knock down that shot. they have to trust their st

the mountains in toward kentucky and ohio, too. 37 degrees currently in nashville. 39 in birmingham.0 degrees in dallas. a different week this week than last week. i'll have the rain across the gulf coast. rain across chicago, on the light side but still out there for the morning. that's the cold front, zeros in toward detroit later today. light rain possible around cleveland. more coming in in half an hour. >>> if you have a tax-free flexible spending accounts for doctors and dentist bills, the health care proposal could hit you hard. ♪ back to the street where we begin ♪ ♪ feeling as good as loves can ♪ >> i like them. >>> dick cheney reportedly told the fbi, i don't recall when asked about how cia agent valerie plame was outed. the 2004 interviews included in some newly released documents. remember, plame's husband was critical of the bush administration. cheney's chief of staff, scooter libby, was convicted of lying about the leak. president bush computed his sentence. >>> about 300,000 people converged on atlanta over the weekend for one of the largest gay pride festivals in the

rain shield now getting in through the northern parts of georgia through atlanta, back towards birmingham. the yellows, reds coming down at rain of one to two inches of rain per hour. flash flood warnings, the areas in light green, dark shaded green. where all of the watches are. you can see it's across a better chunk of northern georgia, getting into the carolinas. next 48 hours, can you see the rain shield as it goes on through georgia and south and north carolina. ultimately offshore and then becomes a coastal-type storm by thursday and friday t will affect the northeast. whether he get more about that tomorrow. yeah, we're going to see some more ramifications about this storm as it moves into the atlantic. >> so for our friends in the south, some of them need it because of drought concerns before. but we're talking about a lot of rain here. >> talking about the possibility of maybe eight inches at the most for areas around atlanta and the carolina mountains. too much. >> thanks, bob. >> you got it. >>> we have seen brawlsfessiona games. we have been telling you this story, we're talki

western parts of alabama, north of birmingham, the reds, oranges, yellows, that's two, maybe 2.5 inches of rain per hour falling in that one spot. again we've already seen doppler radar estimates of over 5 inches in in that one region. mobile, you're basically on the dry side. little light rain. looking at the center of circulation right about there. i want to show you some video from a couple minutes ago from orange beach. this is around alabama. you can see the way it goes. sun beginning to come on up. this is alabama. you can see it. choppy waves out there. it's not that big of a storm surge. calling for about to 4 to 5 feet, that's about it, it's the heavy rain, the wind, that's what we're going to expect for at least the next couple days. you can see the rain as it stretches towards atlanta and the carolinas. flash flood watches are out there. dark shade of green, light shade of green are all the warned areas and we talked about it before, the rain coming out of the gulf, moving through in towards north and south carolina. more on that coming up, robin, in a bit. where you see the

host: birmingham, alabama on the independent line, ted. caller: this is ed, not ted.heila, well-articulated. thank you. i wish someone would address the issue of certificates in states. i think we need an industrial engineer to look at why we have and mri on every street corner in the u.s. what is happening in rural alabama is hospitals are losing the ability to have diagnostic centers. the denominator underneath that service for those machines is isolated in the offices of only five or six positions. so, you have a very inefficient system. host: i will interrupt. two reasons -- a bad connection, and you're talking about the policy of the healthcare debate which we have had a lot of segments on. we're focusing on the money here. next is a call from mary on the republican line. you are last. caller: i called in before. the public option, if anyone has ever tried to get on medicaid because they did not have money for health insurance, the public option is not the way to go. people who try to get medicaid -- it is a terrible system. you have a timeline to turn informatio

birmingham, alabama is up first in this short set of open phones. go ahead. scott on our independent line. caller: yeah. i am so tired of people like that lady that was on a while ago saying it was the housing market that caused this problem. it was jobs getting sent overseas. clear ags the nose on my face and i want to say happy late theaving my ua brother in syracuse who demalled yesterday. host: on our republican line, happy thanksgiving. i would like to say god bless sarah palin, and i believe the reason that democrats are so afraid of her is because she's so honest and non-politician-like because she actually says what she means and not what people just want to hear. host: white house saw lobbyists often during the health care debate. from the associated press writeing the list included george hall very son is t chairman and c.e.o. of kiezer health plans and from the blue cross and blue shield association and other clients, byy tauzin, the head of the pharma and other numerous lobbyists. in florida on our democrats line, barry. caller: hi. happy thanksgi

edward is joining us from birmingham, alabama. good morning.aller: good morning, matthew, and thank you -- i want to applaud you for your resignation on principle. i think we need more people like that. i want to approach this -- my comments and get your response from a guns and butter kind of thing. a lot of the debate, as you've seen on the health care debate and other things, is all about deficits and money and so on, so forth. i'm of the opinion that we don't need to be there in afghanistan or iraq period. we can be an ally or offshore or provide support in other ways, but to fight these as wars, like vietnams. and the ussr, they share a common border with afghanistan. fought them for 10 years to their demise. from my perspective, it's an endless waste of human being and money and we could use that money much better in many other ways. host: again, while that comment was coming in, this twitter comment regarding vietnam was, do you see the request for more troops similar to the generals' demand for more troops in vietnam? guest: i do in a l

edward is joining us from birmingham, alabama. good morning. caller: good morning, matthew, and thank you -- i want to applaud you for your resignation on principle. i think we need more people like that. i want to approach this -- my comments and get your response from a guns and butter kind of thing. a lot of the debate, as you've seen on the health care debate and other things, is all about deficits and money and so on, so forth. i'm of the opinion that we don't need to be there in afghanistan or iraq period. we can be an ally or offshore or provide support in other ways, but to fight these as wars, like vietnams. and the ussr, they share a common border with afghanistan. fought them for 10 years to their demise. from my perspective, it's an endless waste of human being and money and we could use that money much better in many other ways. host: again, while that comment was coming in, this twitter comment regarding vietnam was, do you see the request for more troops similar to the generals' demand for more troops in vietnam? guest: i do in a

i'm a professor of medicine at the university of alabama at bathrooming -- birmingham and director to the only transportation center that has based by d.o.t. in the school of medicine. i want to acknowledge my long, long time friend chuck hurley who is ceo of mothers against drunk driving whom my wife and i have known for many, many years because we established the first m.a.d.d. chapter in the state of illinois about 25 years ago. my question is for major salmon. and it is based on some of our experience in trying to affect anti-drunk driving legislation. you indicated that new york state has issued thousands of tickets. aside from the offenders who pleaded guilty and sent in their money, among those who have chosen the fight the ticket, and i suspect there has been a substantial number, and among that subset who may have been successful in fighting the ticket, are you aware of the legal theory that they have used in their defense? and i say that in the anti-drunk driving context. because we were astonished during our lengthy experience with mothers against drunk driving during which