i was lucky to grow up in segregated birmingham alabama. that might sound odd but my parents had a believing i could be anything i wanted including president of the united states or whatever i wanted to be. now, the way they did that was interesting because they had two important mantras. one was you have to be twice as good. they meant this as armor against prejudice but i told my students if you work hard enough to the twice as good you were going to be confident and no one will be able to throw you off. they said the minute you describe yourself as a victim, you've given control of your life to somebody else. you can control the response to your circumstances and then they would say your armor will be a high-quality education and then they had several others which were funny so my father would say somebody doesn't want to sit next to you because you are black that doesn't matter as long as they move. [laughter] [applause] and what he was saying is don't let somebody else's prejudice bring you down. so i say to young women and minorities

this scene takes place in birmingham, alabama.bors, with the draft strictly policed, the penalties of being a slacker are severe. slogans grow into passions, a hatred of all things german. a harvard professor finds in music the traits of war, lust and cunning. shops owned by german-americans are boycotted, sometimes wrecked. sauerkraut becomes liberty cabbage. teaching german is banned and president wilson worries that the war spirit may become the mob spirit. ♪ ♪ >> nine months of american participation in the war, four whole divisions shipped overseas, more units leaving every week and no visible impact on the stalemate on the western front. impatient for news of victories, the public has received only reports of the first american deaths. the spirit of over there is becoming muted. the farewells grow somber. ♪ ♪ >> the materiel of the home front is stalled in transit as the railroad burdened by mismanagement and strikes finally break down. even on the home front, every day is a battle. ♪ ♪ war production sputters under a variet

we will start it with a call from birmingham, alabama on the line for democrats. it is pollack. you are on -- paula. you are on c-span. what should the senate do about health care? are you there? caller: yes, i am here. host: what should the senate do in congress to? caller: i am originally from germany. i was over there. people did not pay anything for medicine or going to the hospital. raised they have taxes 5%-7%. medicine,have to get they have to put dollars or six dollars of the medicine. when they get to the hospital, they don't have to pay anything because they take it from the taxes they raise. i was republicans would do something like this where people don't have to worry about paying a much when they go to the hospital or to the emergency room or anything. that is what i would like for them to do. i am kind of nervous. host: we appreciate your call. thank you very much. let's move on to rebecca on the line for republicans from massachusetts. go ahead and welcome to c-span. caller: this is my first time. i'm very happy to get through. one of the things that has come up

there were at least ten water rescues of drivers in the birmingham, alabama area.several inches of rain fell in a short period of time, as it did in alabama, it can overwhelm storm drains, especially in urban areas as you can see. streets flooded in phoenix after a second round of storms dumped more rain, more than two inches fell in just one hour. it was especially severe in apache junction. drivers ignored road closed signs. and in southern arizona, officials say they were very lucky they were able to rescue all 17 hikers from a flash flood. the first group that was rescued included a 4-year-old boy. his father was holding him above the water. the helicopter rotors got within 20 feet of this canyon wallace it lowered a deputy to where the hikers were stranded. the operation took all >> grad it wlad it was a succes. >>> getting to the altar is the top priority for a groom. having your tuxedo pretty close second. >> that's true, but the guy in this picture went without his tux after delta airlines lost his luggage. >> he and his bride were getting married in ice la

it is estimated 3 inches of rain fell on are a small town south of birmingham, alabama. one driver had to be pulled out of their car before it was swept away. >>> the eagles will hold their first team practice this afternoon. carson wentz welcomes brent celek to the training camp yesterday. the first practice is saturday morning at lincoln financial field. >>> it was an impressive win for the phillies they shutout the houston astros last night 9-0. the team traded all star relieve er to the colorado rockies for 3 players. >> reporter: thursday morning we're making progress, slowly trucking along, but more progress needs to be made in fishtown. this water main break from a complfd -- frankford avenue head to front street instead of frankford avenue. that means the detours continue on septa bus routes 5 and 25. mass transit looks good, as does the ben franklin bridge this morning. no problems on the area crossings. >> reporter: on the big board we have a warm one, 68 degrees by 7:00 a.m. 80 by noon. 85 by 3:00 p.m. we're going for a high of 86 degrees around 4:00 p.m. and

i saw in segregated birmingham, alabama, we couldn't go to a movie theater or you could go to a restaurant if you were a black person, where you are most certainly a kind of second class citizen, i saw black citizens still actually devoted to the institutions of american democracy. i had one incident in the book that encapsulates it for me, and i was six-ish years old, and my uncle alto, my mothers brother had picked it up from school and it was election day. there were long lines of black people waiting to vote dick and i said to my uncle, well, this must mean that man wallace, george wallace can't win. i knew in my own six-year-old way that we probably didn't want him to win. and so my uncle said oh, no, no. he said, we are a minority so he's going to win. i looked at my uncle and i said, then why do they bother? and my uncle said because they know that one day that vote will matter. and as i went around the world as secretary of state and i saw long lines of liberians are afghans or iraqis, south africans, in latin america, people voting sometimes for the first time can i thought to mys

from birmingham, alabama, please welcome back bobby wesson. >> whoo! >> how you doing? back. >> how you doing, buddy? [cheers and applause] >> welcome back. we'll catch everybody up to date on your game in just a little bit, but you won the getaway trip for your wife, um, who obviously means a great deal to you on many levels. >> my wife's a trauma nurse. my wife works very hard. she gives a lot of herself to her patients, and i'd really love to give something back to her. she needs a break. >> yup, well, you got that trip in hand. >> mmm. >> so now we're on a journey for the million. and for that, well, you're at $5,000. you reached that threshold. you are 9 questions away from that $1 million. still have two lifelines. "50/50" and "plus one" are both still there. so let's get back into

heavy rainfall caused severe flooding outside birmingham, alabama.s much as 3 inches of rain fell in an hour. cars were washed away out of parking lots and employees of a bowling alley had to be rescued by boat. the city manager says storm sewers were overwhelmed by the volume of water. high temperatures in that part of the deep south will reach the 90s today. it'll be a little cooler to the east, hotter to the west. temperatures will only reach the 80s in the midwest and northeast and 70s and 80s along the west coast. >> still ahead right here get ready for more changes at the airport when it comes to your electronics. >>> overnight justin bieber behind the wheel of a vehicle that allegedly hit a member of the paparazzi. a new video and what police are saying next. >>> plus, the murder mystery at sea. a woman found dead on a cruise ship, the investigation underway as the victim is identified overnight. >>> residents of the foothills north of burbank are back in their home after a brush fire scare. hikers at a nature center had also been told clear o

called" antarctica is melting, and giant ice cracks are just the start joining me now from birmingham alabama to discuss this is robert kunzig, the senior environment editor for "national geographic." >>> dñ first of all chunk of ic the size of delaware seems almost impossible to, put our heads around, but that's actually a small piece when you think of the size of antartica >> it is and it's even just a small piece high of the lar son sea ice shelf, larson sea is a floating slab of ice size of vermont and new hampshire combined and what's happening is a rick that has been growing years now, this year really accelerated. as you said, it's about 15 miles wide, it -- and it's been growing from south to north. basically going to slice a big chunk of ice off the ice shelf and that chunk will be the size of delaware >> we have a picture of one of the crack, scientists have been looking and studying and trying to get at isn't of these cracks a long time. how deep does it go down and why are they so concerned >> the crack, where larson sea meets the sea, it's about 600 feet thick. and most of that i

near birmingham, alabama, this car in a creek. kansas city, missouri, knocking down a restaurant wall, and people rescued through the roof there. and let's get to ginger zee agoago along the west side highway. >> reporter: an abnormal pattern setting up. let's watch that from indiana into ohio into the mid atlantic where we see it from georgetown, delaware, and then there's deep moisture riding up and along that front. a flash flood watch from parts of west virginia into pennsylvania. you could see two to even four inches of rain in some areas, david. >> great to have you as always. >>> we move to a mystery in the austin police department tonight. 60 of the department's police suvs have been taken off the streets after their carbon monoxide detecters triggered alar alarms. here's abc's kayna whitworth. >> reporter: tonight, the hidden danger to officers on patrol. more than 60 ford police vehicles in austin now off the streets. they may take out the entire fleet. >> my head, started having headaches, and i was like i can't read. >

near birmingham, alabama, this car washed into a creek. flooding in kansas city, missouri, knocking down a restaurant wall, and people rescued through the roof there. let's get to chief meteorologist, ginger zee live along the westside highway tracking it all for us. hey, ginger. >> reporter: an abnormal pattern setting up. going to bring some potentially dangerous weather. let's watch that from indiana across the nation into ohio into the mid atlantic where we see it from georgetown, delaware. through about wilmington, north carolina. there's in the evening, and then there's deep moisture riding up and along that front. a flash flood watch from parts of west virginia into pennsylvania. you could see two to even four inches of rain in some areas, david. >> ginger, great to have you as always. >>> we move to a mystery in the austin police department tonight. 60 of the department's police suvs have now been taken off the streets after their carbon monoxide detecters triggered alarms. one officer now claiming he is too sick to return to work.

police in birmingham, alabama, arresting two people in connection with that nightclub shooting in littleock, arkansas, that wounded 28 people on saturday. the suspect's 25-year-old rapper ricky hampton known as finesse two times and another man taken into custody and held without bail. investigators saying that the shooting may have been gang related and little rock officials have shut down that nightclub. a vigil held for the victims, all of them are expe 5-year-old boy missing since april has been found near a lake in santa barbara, county. the boy's father aramazd andressian sr. was arrested in las vegas last week suspected in the child's murder. he has since been extradited to los angeles. >>> and in oklahoma city the search is on for a couple accused of stealing tens of thousands of dollars worth of jewelry in what's being called a bait and switch. surveillance cameras catching them during one of the alleged heists. you can see the woman there trying on a ring then her partner goes to leave. she runs after him. that's when police say she switches the ring with a fake one which she g

. >> tucker: tried in downtown birmingham, alabama, or chicago or something.ere's the point i'm making. there is no comparison between satanism, a silly made up religion which has no god and nontheistic, which you conceded, or christianity, judaism, islam. they are millennia old. they run hospitals, churches, schools. they form the basis of our civil society. they don't really compared to what you are doing. do they? >> well, we are getting there. we are a growing population and we should defend pluralism and free speech. we can't allow america to divide itself with regional theocracy. like a place like clearwater florida. almost entirely colonized by scientologists. will they shut down for the open forum of elrond connect l. ron hubbard? >> tucker: i agree with your point strongly that people ought to be allowed to express their views in public. i don't want to be sucked into the trap of having to take seriously what is clearly not a serious thing. do you know what i mean? >> if we were being serious -- if you learn anything about the satanic temple, you can

he was arrested in birmingham, alabama, along with another man.ent is not saying whether that man is a suspect in this shooting and in the mean time, the community here is grappling of what happened. >> reporter: a community is looking for answers and trying to heal. >> we are all in the fight together and we are all in the front together, we need each other. as more than two dozens people recovering a mass shooting at a nightclub in downtown little rock. >> it is something all you do not want to feel. it unfolded early saturday morning and cell phone video takes inside the lounge shows the moment. concert goers scramble to get out. >> why is this happening. everybody trying to get occupy and trying to run and you are on the dance floor, just get down until they stop. >> neighbors were woken up buy gunfires. >> i can see one person bleeding baddel badly. >> police say no terrorism but potential gang activities. ten drive-by shootings in less than two weeks. >> we feel there is a possibility that tlhere is a connection with the recent shootings tha

his social media accounts say he still plans a meet-and-greet with fans in birmingham, alabama, on tuesdayn nevada. nev-ad-a the price hike in marijuana is causing some patients to turn back to the streets...to buy their medicine. a majority of voters spoke.. and legalized recreational marijuana in the state. but now the herbal medicine those voters turn to... is seeing a major price hike. medical marijuana store owners admit the fee for pot has jumped... due to new taxes and a boom in demand. but don't suggest patients return to the black market. instead to offset the costs...state dispensaries are offering incentives to medical card holders. (sot) "we allow them to come to the front of the line. we try to keep everything in stock that our patients are reliant upon" (justine) buying from a non-licensed marijunana dealer in nevada is illegal. (justine) turning to weather now, meteorologist lawrence karnow has our forecast. lawrence karnow: it was another hot one today as temperatures soared even higher then yesterday. many people headed to the coast to beat the heat and it was sunny there

. >>> investigators are searching for two escaped inmates after a jailbreak near birmingham, alabama. 12 men broke out last night. deputies caught ten of the men. one still on the run is charged with attempted murder. authorities are asking people to stay indoors and turn on their outdoor lights in the area. not clear how the prisoners managed to escape. >>> a fight for more leg room on airplanes took a huge step forward. a consumer group is challenging the agency on small seats. they claim it's not only comfort but safety. an appeals court agreed. they called it the case of the incredible shrinking airline seat. the group says the cramped quarters can slow down emergency evacuations and some experts say the airlines are being greedy. a panel of judges says the faa needs to come up with a better response to the safety concerns. >> as we see more and more people being squeezed into the airplanes, we're now reaching the point where we don't think people can get out like they immediate to. >> it could wind up in congress. there is proposed legislation to regulate seat size. >>> the crew

one of those dozen inmates that escaped from a high security correctional facility outside birmingham, alabama, and this happened last night around 6:30 p.m. multiple law enforcement agencies are now on the hunt and even some private citizens are getting involved. this morning, a manhunt is on for this prisoner, one of a dozen inmates who escaped overnight from a high security center outside birmingham, alabama. the other 11 have been found overnight and brought back to prison. residents are on edge after being ordered to stay inside and turn on all their outside lights. the crimes of the dirty dozen range from resisting arrest to drug possession to attempted murder. the walker county sheriff's office first reported the inmates missing on their facebook page. by midnight, eight of the escapees had been found. the walker county jail built in 1998 only holds about 250 prisoners. neighboring police forces joined in the hunt with several local residents tweeting they would shoot the men on site. we don't have many details about the escape at this point but the big question is where is this guy. th

he was arrested overnight in birmingham, alabama along with another man, though law enforcement isn't saying whether the other man is a suspect in the shooting. all of this comes as the community grapples with what happened here. as police search for clues, a community is looking for answers and trying to heal. >> we're all in the fight together. we're all in the struggle together. we need each dozen people attempt to recover from a mass shooting at a nightclub in downtown little rock. >> that sickening feeling in the gut of your stomach is something you never want to feel. >> reporter: it all unfolded early saturday morning during a rap concert. cell phone video taken inside the power ultra lounge shows the moment gunshots rang out. concert goers scrambled to get out. >> waiting for the shots to get through. everybody trying to get up, got to run. hear them again, just get down until they stop. >> reporter: neighbors woken up by gunfire. >> people were going all over the place. i could see one person bleeding very badly. >> reporter: police now saying it is possible there were multip

arnett calling in from birmingham, alabama on the independent line.at did you think about the meeting? caller: i was appalled that for historical references it will not be recorded. there will be nothing said about it. only the he say, he say. an appalling way for the nation to be led that we would do diplomacy with no one knowing what it is. what will his staffers have to stay and how will they answer the free press? i may not agree with the left ring oh right-wing -- left-wing or right-wing press but i listen to them. but to blame all the press is fake as bad -- estate and bad, they are denying our constitution which guarantees the freedom of the press and the freedom of religion. we have people like one caller that you said this is a christian nation, but what about the morals and ethics? they are forgetting all this. they counted our last president oureight years -- hounded last president for eight years and do not say one word about this president. years of the last 16 the divisiveness thrown out by the left and right which is why i have become a

so i do not know how effective the prosecution would be, but in theory, that is illegal. , birmingham, alabama, republican. caller: i love c-span. i want the guests to clarify something for me, whether it is the health care law or the government generally. when they tax corporations or medical devices, don't those companies incorporate the increases in to cost of doing business, and aren't the consumers and everyone else basically paying the tax? paying theof us increase for the cost of business? host: we will take your question. guest: i think this is something that is still being discussed among republicans, particularly how the tax structure in obamacare word impact pharmaceutical companies, and insurers who are paying for coverage. i do not know the specific answer, but it is certainly something i will look into. host: there is the economic philosophy that republicans talk about. that this is just going to impact consumers in the end. guest: right. in the aca, there was a specific excise tax on medical devices. sometimes -- there is this argument about how durable medical equipment is paid

let's go to the washington bureau chief in birmingham, alabama, and also a formal federal prosecutor. gabby, we have the report from ken here, six confirmed. what are you learning? >> there are a number of questions about the contents of this meeting. there's only so much that we've learned about the president's son. confirming at the very least that this was a meeting set up with a sole purpose of disclosing information that these individuals felt -- these kremlin-connected individuals felt would be damaging to hillary clinton, the democratic front-runner at the time. and so i think that these are questions that will emerge hopefully during the congressional investigations. it's one thing for the president's son to go on to sean hannity show and talk about what he felt was him being transparent about the contents of the meeting and the purpose of it and it's another to get in front of the intel committee and answer questions from career prosecutors. that's something that needs to happen and hopefully will at some point in the future. >> let's get over to you, rick, on this. we've bee

marshals say ricky hanson also known as finesse two times was arrested in birmingham, alabama on outstandingarrants from another city. early saturday morning someone opened fire at the power ultra lounge in little rock sending 28 people to area hospitals. a woman whose daughter was critically injured said doctors fear they may have to amputate an arm. >> i thank god he saved my baby. if she lost her arm, i would rather have her out here breathing. >> little rock police have issued a tweet saying no arrests have been made in connection with the mass shooting in their city. >>> an unusual marriage in las vegas this weekend could be described as an all-time high. anna and mark taylor tied the knot yesterday in a marijuana grow facility. they exchanged vows surrounded by marijuana plants, but also made their way into the bride's bouquet. yesterday was the first day of recreational marijuana sales in nevada. the groom says the legalization of marijuana has been an important issue for him because his father was jailed in the past on marijuana-related charges. >> i'm taking a stand here because i w

ricky hampton was arrested in birmingham, alabama on outstanding warrants.pton was performing at the nightclu in little rock when the shooting began. investigators say he left without being questioned. he was arrested so the police could find out what he knows about the shooting. >> well, with less than 10 seconds left on the countdown officials at kennedy space center called off a scheduled space-x launch. space-x says she scrubbed the launch over a glitch in the rocket's navigation system. the falcon nine rocket is scheduled to carry a powerful communication satellite. >> montessori school in new york is offering parents a unique way to pay tuition. >> president trump facing criticism. >> live look across the d.c. region. there's the sun starting to come up. we're going to feel it today as well. yes, the day 5:11 is our time right now. 78 degrees. fox5 news morning back right after this. >> ♪ >> ♪♪ bassett is unique in regards to that customability. you've got a thousand different fabrics to pick from. very customizable. you can choose the back, you can ch

we have come a long way, literally marchs, from birmingham, alabama to os low, norway with martin luther king, jr. accepted the peace prize. we don't need to be going back. when we look at what is going on nationally, over 89 bills, just this year alone and 30 states seeking to restrict voting rights, access to the ballot box, this commission is doing nothing more than perpetuating and trying to find evidence for a false claim, a lie, outright lie that president continues to reiterate and kentucky simply won't be part of it. i have to say it's been a week since you and i first talked and the commission received a reception nationwide that hasn't been positive. as my grandmother used to say, it's about as welcoming a as breeze off an outhouse. the folks across the state, not just democrats but republicans, are realizing that turning over sensitive personal information to the federal government, to the president, who requested this, one sb it in the state's interest, and two, is it in the individual's interest? >> you also bring up the idea that this is a state thing. whether one agrees wi

host: joann, birmingham, alabama, democrat's line. caller: hello. host: go ahead. caller: hello. can you hear me? host: yes, go ahead. caller: in response to the young man from north carolina, the reason states like north asolina, arkansas, alabama, far as them not being worried about what donald trump does in russia is because they are so gerrymandered, the democrats do not even have a voice, just like we do not have a voice. i am saying? and you also see how the cbo was supposed to come out today. the republicans are trying to undermine it so it becomes obsolete and we do not even have to worry about that, so congress can make of their own plan. they are tying to undermine everything they want us to believe comes from them. they wanted to attack our system so bad. they go alongs, with donald trump, who came into of is attack every institution they can. host: thank you it we also have this tweet -- why would the cbo forecasts suddenly become so so far offter being the mark in the past? guest: the cbo have not been that far off in their projections. economic forecasting modeling

he was arrested overnight in birmingham, alabama, along with another man, however, he was arrested on of another jurisdiction in arkansas. so having nothing to do with the mass shooting. at this point little rock police tell us that there have been no arrests and there are no suspects in this mass shooting. now this is where it all happened here at the lounge. this club, as you can see, is closed right now. over here we have an eviction notice on the door, it might be hard to see at this point. city officials in little rock tell us they're taking steps to try to shut down the club. it had already had its liquor license revoked when it happened. if you look up to the second floor because the club is two floors, can you see some of the windows have been shot out. there's glass all along the sidewalk down below. of course, a very violent scene. investigators were out here all day yesterday trying to piece together exactly what might have happened. police believe there were multiple shooters involved but, again, no suspects and no arrests yet. as far as all the victims are concerned, two

there was a great divisiveness, it is a global budapest, from brexit, birmingham, england and birmingham, alabama to see it in being ans france example of what happens if you have a sensible, centrist, pragmatic person as you have with emmanuel macron. people start hungering for that. when will that have been in the united states? two,or the next year or but in the next 3-5 years, things will change. people say, wait a minute, let's have somebody like emmanuel macron, somebody who is more of open inte, temperate, thinking, and we will say, yeah, we went through a time of poison and divisiveness, so let's try being sensible again. a lot of candidates in both parties are of that ilk. my own personal belief is the country is not quite there yet. i know we will see it in the next 4-6 years. julia: something that has been pivotal in many of these election campaigns is the use of social media and technology. i want to ask you about artificial intelligence. i know that was talked about as a theme. i want to get your views on whether we are talking about algorithms, autonomous driving, big data. how do t

hampton, the rapper performing that night was just arrested with another man while performing in birmingham, alabamaooting unleashing panic. 25 people total were shot. i'm sure more details will emerge on that story. a new york shot and killed a hospital identified. tracey campbell is covering one of her coworkers shift when she was gunned down. the shooter smacking an air 15 killing one person and wounding six others before taking his own life. abby. abby: thank you, p. july 4th is that when feeling patriotic. dream for fox news contributor, kevin mccarthy has some pics for you in a pretty awesome suit. you are going to the theater to see because you might want to see wonder woman. these are ones you want to stay home and watch. >> yakima good morning to you. i'm 33 are sold where a suit on national television. by the way, i mean tucker carlson's studio and this is pretty awesome. there's an upgrade in front of me with tucker's face on it. abby: that's a little scary. pete: i need to get one of those. that's creepy. >> i'm going to steal it. turn for the first movie on the list is the sandlot. >> l

marshals arrested this man here, ricky hampton and another man in birmingham, alabama.on was performing at a nightclub when he was taken into custody. 28 people are hurt after the shooting. doctors say everyone, believe it or not, is expected to survive. last night about 100 people gathered at a church in little rock for a candlelight service to offer prayers and victims for the family. city officials are working to close the club where the shooting happened. >>> an alcohol ban along the american river is in effect. authorities want to keep people that were drinking out of the water. it was in effect last weekend during the rafting gone wild party. >> i don't have a problem with it. i like the fact that it's safer for everyone involved to have a good time. a little more family oriented that way. is with so many people traveling the river, it's a safer environment for all. >> people that violent the ban can be fined $50 for the first offense and the penalties go up from there. >>> boaters can expect more safety patrols on the water. the coast guard is stepping up patrols

a week after the march on washington, bomb goes off in birmingham, alabama, condi rice knew some of the four girls who were murdered. and buckley just loses it. he writes a very, very searing editorial, blaming wallace for inciting this kind of hate. and then -- which i didn't know this until i started to research. i knew a lot of buckley. he writes his mother letter and he says, you good to mass every day. you tell to us pray every day. where in our religion does it support this kind of system that none of us queried. you never questioned it, dad never questioned it. never questioned: 47 years old. there was no religious sanction for this. how can we support it? and he -- the public buckley is not there yet, but the private buckley is going through a great deal of inner turmoil, and so by the tomb you -- time -- you mentioned the civil rights bill which is different from brown and the other decisions. they said they head constitutional questions. by of '65, they don't oppose the vote right act remember he says let's see how it goes. the brought it on themselves with this kind of resist

it was accompanied by coming out parties all around the country including one in birmingham, alabama,he decision that i wasn't going to live my life as a lie anymore. i was -- i belong with everybody else. and that's what i finally did. >> we used to say ellen opened the door and we knocked it down. ♪ i love my mister ♪ tell me lazy tell me so ♪ tell me i'm crazy maybe i know ♪ ♪ can't help loving that man of mine ♪ >> and beret, beret, i'm gay! >> "will & grace" was a great show in sort of helping a mainstream straight community connect to the gayommunity. >> i think i can fix this thing with your landlord but might get a little ugly. >> play hardball, baby. throw low and inside. he's crowding the plate and we've got to -- >> grace, sports, you're losing me. >> i figured 25% of the country wouldn't watch the show just based on the fact that we had two gay men on it. >> give it to me! >> but if we could make-believe that will and grace would get together. >> will, i told you, you live with a hetero long enough, you're going to catch it. >> maybe we could get people to watch thinking t