the youth who piled in across the board and participate -- across the border and birsa paid in the violencehe abductions. some of those pictures of people being abducted were clearly being abducted by regular young guys. the feeling has been that hamas certainly holds a significant number of hostages but that other factions also hold some and some may be held by small groups of private citizens. i suspect in the immediate aftermath, there was a certain amount of consolidation. and effort by hamas to locate, maybe take control of people who had not initially been taken by their own men. i think it is still quite a comple picture. not i suspect that hamas does not have complete control over everybody. it is a very large number of people. a completely unprecedented number of hostages. >> in terms of diplomacy, prime minister netanyahu has been giving his first sit-down interviews to western media. he has talked about the israeli troops being in gaza indefinitely. there is been some reaction from the white house. what it has t reaction been in israel? >> i think there is great uncertainty about