here's the guide of original birthers. you can see here with the birther caucus.irther thing hung around for a long time. it probably reached peak absurdity in 2011 when donald trump as part of his flirtation with a white house run in 2012 decided he would take up the birther thing as his major cause. >> if you are going to be the president of the united states, you have to be born in this country. and there is a doubt as to whether or not he was -- >> you are not allowed to be a president if you're not born in this country. >> i want him to show his birth certificate. there's something on that birth certificate that he doesn't like. >> where's the birth certificate. by april 2011 president obama was taking the controversy seriously enough or thought it had gone on long enough that he did release a long form version of his birth certificate. complete with a big to do in the white house briefing room. and at the same time he also decided to put the whole controversy in its place the way he ought to of by making fun of it. >> donald trump is here tonight. now, i kno

the birther thing. john mccain did speak out. hillary clinton had nothing to do with it.what i menan i say crazy. there is a tiny fragment out there i think trump is appealing to them. not even dog whistle. just straight up loco. >> do you believe the base he is a apealing to. appealing to a fringe. aren't there people sick of politicians. ben carson is doing well a nonpolitician. and in the primary season. they're just tired of practiced politician couching thing not necessarily saying anything. you feel it. people go see trump feel he is saying something whether or not it is true. >> i think that's right. that's why the appeal is there. it's why it is early. it moves very quickly. i do think, ultimate low over the long haul. we are 500 some days away from the election. it is going to be more about ideas than personality. end of the day people aren't electing an entertainer. really ultimate low that's the question voters ask, what are you going to do for me? they may decide mr. trump is the guy who can help the middle-class. i find that inconceivable. maybe i don't have

. >> wait, kenya that's where the birthers say he was born. why did he got there? oh, i forgot. because obama doesn't care. oh, man. he never would have gone to kenya in the first term. he really doesn't give a (bleep) what people think right? and, and, and, by the way he told us this himself a couple of months ago. >> i am determined to make the most of every moment i have last. after the midterm elections my advisors asked me, mr. president, do you have a bucket list? and i said, well, i have something that rhymes with bucket list. >> i think he means (bleep) it list. i get you, mr. president. hey birthers, here is a mini-mic drop for you. >> i suspect that some of my critics back home are suggesting that i am back here to look for my birth certificate. that is not the case. >> oh! you know what is the case? you don't give a (bleep)! >> besides it's stupid to think obama was born in kenya when his birth certificate is very clearly displayed at the mosque in yemen where he was actually born, right? everybody knows that. come on. everybody knows that. okay. what was first on the

it probably is birther, not brother. covering the republican presidential primary this year is much weirder than it otherwise would be if donald trump were not one of the leading contenders. but it's not a joke. he really is. tomorrow donald trump is doing an event in phoenix, arizona. they moved to a larger venue because they got more rsvps. donald trump is now expected to address more than 4,000 people at the phoenix convention center in phoenix, arizona. that's causing consternation in phoenix and in arizona. the phoenix mayor greg stanton felt compelled to put out a statement about donald trump's visit to his city tomorrow. donald trumpae ignorant deplorable and racist rhetoric does not represent our values and i could not disagree with him more. but mr. trump has the right to make absurd and embarrassing statements and the city of phoenix will not attempt to censor political speech based on content. the convention center is a public facility and open to everyone willing to pay for it include playing trump. on the oc

do you know john mccain was a birther? hillary failed john mccane failed trump was able to get them to get something. i don't know what it was. i'm off that subject. i'm about jobs. i'm about the military. i'm about doing the right thing for this country. i want to make our country great again. >> by the way, birther is not accurate. senator mccain made that very publicly clear when he was running against senator obama. and so that brings us the interesting question how far out there can donald trump go with some of his rhetoric. there's no sign that his support is waning at all. he has a rally scheduled for saturday in phoenix. his office says it's now being moved to a larger space, to a convention center to accommodate the thousands of people they are now expecting. is actually a good thing. it allows them to show themselves in opposition to him or juxtaposed to him. do you buy that? >> sure, sure. i think they're going to want to be on that stage with him. and i know that there was some thinking that there would be gop

he rode the birther wave. he whipped up that frenzy about the president isn't born here, he's not eligible. then he went on to mexican immigrants. he's playing not just to frustration but to sometimes racism and a real kind of nihilism about the political process. that's not good for democrats and not good for the country. >> to make a point here because we have two republicans on the show. when he was making fun of the president, he was an illegal alien, there was no roar of disapproval from the republican party. you enjoyed that clown act. >> there was certainly disapproval on that from the two republicans you have on this show today. we said it was despicable then, it was wrong then, it was racist. it undermines the legitimacy of the duly elected commander in chief. it was wrong and republicans should have repudiated it and we paid a price for it and to some degree we're reaping what we sowed by a feckless political class that didn't call it out. >> exactly what i'm going to say at the end of the show becau

. >> ben stein, i'm looking that the -- >> the birther. >> i'm looking that the and i know we've gotten used to it dribs and drabs, but now, you know market can't advance in our country without quantitative easing and this expectation of seemingly low interest rates for as long as we can see. in china, without coming to the market's rescue to help a crooked system i guess. in puerto rico desperate attempt on the government-led bailout that will hopefully, they hope weather their governor coming to this country, get u.s. support. in other words, in order to keep this going the request and demand is for more government intervention. i think that is a slippery slope on which we've long since slid. what do you think? >> well we've been on a slope for a very very long time. we haven't fallen down it. there have been there has been a lot of government intervention from 1929 to '33. >> enough enough enough. >> and we're broke as a nation somehow we keep going. government meddling is a problem. but so far it's much more of a help than a problem. >> it's not a help when it hurts growth. i think

he's the one who teamed up with fox in 200111 with the extended birther charade.e him a platform and he's wreaking havoc and people are still -- >> soyou are not at all surprised what's happening here. >> right. and republicans told him please done it down. yeah that worked really well. >> can you imagine what he said on that phone call? are you kidding me? who are you? >> who are are you, exactly. but it deposegoes back to again the republican party itself. the quote establishment. it has evaporated. it doesn't exist. it is a free for all. largely a right wing media free for all. and donald trump for now has the formula. >> what does a donald trump look like on a debate stage? sooner or later he has to get real serious. or does this continue? >> my guess is what you see at the press conferences is what you are going to get at the debates. it is going to be much shorter. he's not going to have much time but he's going to have the republicans responding to him. every head line the next day is trump. >> rupert murdock is asking fox executives to back off the trump c

remember donald trump, when he was a birther, when he demanded that the president releases college transcriptswe do. donald trump: president obama is the least transparent president in the history of this country. if he opens up and gives his college records and applications, and if he gets his passport applications and records, i will give to a charity of his choice, inner-city children of chicago american cancer society, aids research, anything he wants. a check, immediately, for $5 million. mark: trump tower is not just a building. the man is towering over the republican presidential candidates in most polls. it is no surprise, like a swarm of gnats, the press is going to the top. i asked him if he would release his grades. you made a big point of trying to get president obama to release his college records and i was wondering if you would release your records. donald trump: i don't know. it is something i never thought about it. i will certainly think about it. i was a good student and went to a great school. mark: you will not admit to doing it? donald trump: that is the first time i have

this is what he did with the birther issue and i think that hurts the country.ark: in the and, i think one of the things that will tell here is the poll numbers. as long as he is one of the leaders nationally in the key states, he is going to be harder to deal with and a lot harder for the press to ignore. if his numbers go down, then i think we will put what he says in perspective. we will see how his poll numbers do. al: yeah, i don't think he is a serious person and i think he has done great harm with these comments. mark: all right, before we go to break, there was some big news out there between columbia and athens and elsewhere. to get you caught up, here is our "with all due respect" wraparound coverage. >> lawmakers spent more than 13 hours debating the issue. >> it is a symbol of hate, take it off these grounds! >> the governor said she will sign a bill to take it off. >> in washington, gop house members are pulling their support for a bill that would have upheld the right to display confederate flags in some cemeteries. >> i do not want this to become

. >> the president also took time to poke fun at birthers. >> i suspect that some of my critics backe are suggesting that i'm back here to look for my birth certificate. [ laughter ] >> that is not the case. >> well, some critics suggested mr. obama was not born in the u.s. and questioned his eligibility to be president. obama's birth certificate lists honolulu as his birthplace. >>> still ahead, want to own this home? could be a piece of cake. literally. tonight how you can win a new season brings a new look. a chance to try something different. this summer, challenge your preconceptions and experience a cadillac for yourself. ♪ the 2015 cadillac srx. lease this from around $339 per month, or purchase with 0% apr financing. >>> well, check out this rescue in southern california. a father and his young son somehow crashed their jet ski into a dock in orange county and ended up unconscious in the water. well, within seconds, witnesses rushed over to help. one waiter even jumped in uniform and all to save the pair. dad and son were taken to the hospital. they are all doing okay tonight

into birtherism there for a long period of time. it really hits him now, what he's been saying about hispanics. so i just wonder if there are people in trump world that make a living off of these other enterprises, if they're starting to wring their hands about his decision to get into this presidential race, because it's certainly hurting his -- it's certainly hurting his brand name and image. >> yet it's fueling his campaign in iowa new numbers from quinnipiac showing he's tied with ben carson in second place. you right in "first read" today, chuck, about competing bracket, some candidates focused on iowa others focused on new hampshire, maybe a rubio and a rand paul that could cross between the two. explain that to us and sort of where this plays into the calculus for these candidates. >> look you have 14 candidates and they all have either iowa or new hampshire that their heads as the place they're going to break out. and about half of the field sees iowa in that category. more the conservative candidates view that. and the more

now, trump is out there still playing the birther card. i just want to get your reaction to some news in an interview he did. let's watch him again today expressing skepticism about whether the president of the united states is actually a natural born citizen of this country. let's watch him here. >> a few years ago you led the birther movement. you sent investigators out to hawaii to find out whether or not obama was, you said, was not born here. >> well, i don't know -- >> it turned out not to be true -- >> according to you it's not true. >> he released his birth certificate. >> he's sticking to his guns on that. on the day you announced your candidacy, senator, trump also said that you were born in calgary, your father was working up there, could be a hurdle for your campaign. let's watch him here. >> he was born in canada. if you know and when we all studied our history lessons, you're supposed to be born in this country, so i just don't know how the courts would rule on it. but it's an additional hurdle that he has that nobody else se

maybe they are not going to change birther. if they are going to change donald and trump and you're fired i might consider changing the one which is brthr. if it's that close to donald trump it probably is birth earthquake not brother. anyway. covering the republican presidential primary this year is weirder than it would be if donald trump were not one of the leading contenders. but it's not a joke he really is. tomorrow donald trump is doing an event in phoenix, arizona they moved to a larger venue. they got more rsvp's. that's not just for bernie sanders anymore. donald trump expected to address more than 4,000 people tomorrow. and that's causing consternation in phoenix and in arizona. the phoenix mayor, greg stanton, felt compelled to put out a statement about donald trump's visit tomorrow. he says quote donald trump's ignorant deplorable and racist rhetoric does not represent our values. i could not disagree with him more. but mr. trump has a right to make absurd embarrassing statements. the city of phoenix will not attem

with all the outrageous things including the birther movement it doesn't seem to me this will break himjohn: there were a lot of republicans afraid to take on trump. a lot of the establishment criticism doesn't matter much to him. veterans are a big part of the republican base. some republicans who like donald trump are veterans and also like john mccain. mark: rush limbaugh defended him today. there weren't that many staunch defenders of donald trump. i do believe that elites can accurately judge this cute while there are some veterans who will be turned off, we have to wait. trump is not at 40%. he is at 16, 17%. the percentage may stick with them. also in iowa, scott walker did three days of barnstorming, and he did some interviews. a few of his answers got noticed, such as when he was pressed by danna bash on whether being gay is a choice. walker's reply, i don't know. in plainfield, iowa, walker was confronted by an undocumented immigrant from wisconsin and told the candidate that he and his wife live in fear of deportation. that exchange on the part of the family got somewhat emot

. >> reporter: and so it was the president himself who made what was perhaps an inevidentable birther joke. tomorrow he is giving a major speech at the nairobi stadium. police are preparing for the possibility that hundreds of thousands of people could show up. we expect president obama to speak very personally about his connection to kenya. kate? >> he is very popular there. chris jansing, thanks so much. >>> back in this country, sandra bland was buried outside chicago as questions remain about her death in a texas jail three days after her arrest during a traffic stop. here's nbc's john yang. >> reporter: hundreds of people gather at a church near sandra bland's hometown today to celebrate her 28-year life. >> we celebrate that she found her voice. she found her purpose in social justice. >> reporter: this, one day of the release of the official autopsy report which ruled bland's death a suicide. her family isn't buying it. they have conducted a separate autopsy of their own. >> i think something very bad happened to her. i really, really do. and i think it's all going to come out.

i'm still called a birther and i've never been a birther. i signed on to a bill that bill posey did back in 2009 that said, before the next election, any future election, whoever is running should prove that they are qualified and they are american citizen as required and that they are 35. but i thought that was a good idea and i still think it is so we don't have those disputes after people are elected president. and i'll calmed a -- i'm called a birther. and now i never saw the american government would take over texas. but what i find offensive. is in the jade helm exercise i've never seen this before but a map was provided that showed the states including texas, texas was red, considered hostile, utah and other very conservative state was considered hostile and another area in southern california was considered hostile and participated in military games and i've helped plan them and was in the army for four years at ft. benning and i've seen games, and i've never seen real names used like that and especially not in the united states. it

he spoked about the so-called birthers who don't think he's an american. >> some of my critics back homer my birth certificate. the hawaii born president released his birth certificate several years ago says he still has doubters. president obama will address thousand of kenyans tomorrow to talk about the symbolism of his trip and personal connection to kenya. turning to the race for the white house. democratic and republican front-runners spent the day in iowa. here is abc news reporter. >> reporter: donald trump took his bare knuckle campaign to iowa where a standing room only crowd waited two hours in the heat to hear him. >> oh finally i can attack. >> his target the rival, scott walker of wisconsin. who leads trump in the iowa polls. >> wisconsin is doing terribly. first of all in turmoil. the road are -- a disaster because they don't have any money. >> trump took a shot at hillary clinton and accusations over her use of private e-mail while secretary of state. >> what she did is very criminal and very serious. >> reporter: intelligence investigators in washington said this week sec

in 2011, it was birther in chief donald trump that tried to make the accusation stick. >> his people in the united states don't know what hospital, his relatives don't know what hospital. the fact is, if he wasn't born in this country, he shouldn't be the president of the united states. >> the political dirt ball in this country didn't start yesterday. >> it's been interesting when you look at what's happened with mr. trump when he's made some of the remarks that, for example, challenge the heroism of mr. mccain, somebody that endured torture and conducted himself with patriotism, the republican party is shocked. i recognize when outrageous statements are made about me that a lot of the same people who are outraged when they are made about mr. mccain were pretty quiet. >> joining me right now chris jansing. do they get this thing in africa, some of the strangest people out there saying the president was actually born in kenya and shouldn't be president because of it. >> reporter: well, they know the issue, chris, at least the small circle of people that talked to and particularly in

remember back in 2011 donald trump was leading the charge on the birther controversy, asking for barackth certificate. that also ginned up a lot of support from that very conservative tea party wing of the party that was very excited about that. but that sent a lot of mainstream republicans sort of like scampering and saying, please get him off the stage. that's what's happening now. reince priebus or mitt romney have said we can't win the white house unless we do better among latinos. now you have donald trump making these controversial remark that is excites a wing of the party, helps him get up that support in the polls and yet every republican now is going to have to answer questions for it and a lot of the mainstream establishment republicans are concerned that he is in the long run doing damage to the brand that they are trying to rehabilitate. >> so we sew trump surging in the polls, sarah. but two notable names fell out of the top five, marco rubio and scott walker. should there be any concern in their camps? >> i think this is exactly where you want to be when you're this far o

trump was a birther person. he spoke to the dark elements of that movement.ow he's on immigration playing to a piece of the republican base that matters. don't discount them. they have serious concerns about immigration. the language he is using to appeal in my view is way over the line but it can work. the question is where does he win? and does he get that far? that's the big debate. most republicans don't take it seriously. he's at second place in the national poll. there's a brand-new poll out in iowa he's in second place. you can't discount him. part of it is him. part of it is people don't like politicians. >> let's talk about the democratic side. we have a new poll reflecting what's going on there as well. there's an interesting development. hillary clinton, obviously, in first place as she has been all along. the second is joe biden. is there a chance joe biden is going to run? >> people around the vice president say he's going to make his final decision in august. the wall street journal had interesting reporting that as bo was failing, he said go. h

he would again and again double down to birtherism to almost no rebuke. mitt romney continues to seek his endorsement. >> a common sentiment that existed within some in the party and that's what animated and motivated that part of the conversation. he had the space to do that. he played in that space as he's playing in this space. >> we'll have more with the panel on this later. >>> future of the nuclear deal with an ambassador who knows ball negotiating with iran. still ahead this morning, breakfast with senator chuck schumer. stay with us. >> here is another little trick. i dilute my orange juice. i will take beauty into my own hands. olay regenerist. it regenerates surface cells. new skin is revealed in only 5 days. without drastic measures. stunningly youthful. award-winning skin. from the world's #1. olay your best beautiful push your enterprise and you can move the world. but to get from the old way to the new you'll need the right it infrastructure. from a partner who knows how to make your enterprise more agile, borderless and secure. hp helps bus

a few years ago you led the birther movement. you sent investigators out to hawaii to find out whether or not obama was not born here. and it turned out tonight be true. >> according to you it's not true. i don't know. >> he released his birth certificate. >> if you believe that, it's fine. it's an old subject. i'm about jobs, i'm about security, i'm with fixing the military, i'm about taking care of our vets. you don't to have bring up old subjects. >> whether he did or not, who knows. a lot of people don't agree with you. i'm about jobs. that's what we have to start talking about. and i'm about beating isis militarily and not acting like a bunch of babies like we're acting do you have a plan for isis? >> i would. i would knock the hell out of oil areas. they're building an hotel in iraq. they're renovating a hole in iraq. they're renovating a hotel in a different location. nothing but money. it is coming out of their ears and it is coming from oil. if you remember, number one, he said you shouldn't go into iraq any way because

. >> it should have happened when he was preaching birtherism to be honest. >> there is something we can go back on. why didn't anybody blow the whistle on this guy when he called the president an illegal immigrant? thank you, everybody, have a great independence. fourth of july is coming on strong. and we're going to have to celebrate it tomorrow. college up, president obama says he's led a new reagan revolution. he says he's transformed the country. now he's looking at hillary clinton to complete the job. i wonder how she likes the job? plus, the president's best week ever is turning into the best month ever. he just knocked another big victory on the economy. the unemployment rate is way down. jobs are way up. they're touting it in the backyard of one of his critics say. scott walker. obama is sticking it to him. and the country is on heightened alert. law enforcement says there is no specific or credible threat. this year there's new concern because of the rise of isis. finally, let me finish with a statement. a sentiment that is both progressive. a sentiment very much american.

a lot of you were courting donald trump when he dropped out after his birther craze at the time.ively reached out for him. in hindsight was that a mistake for the party to embrace trump four years ago? >> his twitter handle is the real donald trump. i'll suggest to you, we're seeing the real donald trump now. >> and that is what? >> well, we're seeing an individual who's more interested in throwing invehicletives in this hyperbolic rhetoric out there rather than laying out solutions. listen, we need somebody as i laid out ten days ago two weeks ago, about how the republican party needs to be reaching out to people of different cultures and races and ethnicities, what we've done in the state of texas, for instance, to let african-americans keep more of what they work for, graduate from high school, as a matter of fact, at the highest rate in america. that's what the republican party needs to be about. that's what we need to hear. frankly, that's what americans are begging for. a leader that has solutions to give them hope that the best days are in front of us as a country. >> rick

we are talking about someone that helped to lead the birther effort against president obama trying to obama was not from the united states, was not born here. this is someone that the department of justice has sued trump's companies for failing or unwillingness to rent to african-americans. so he has a history. and that is why we are seeing these kinds of numbers. why is he still doing well generally among republicans in places like new hampshire. he is now in second place in iowa. it is because despite the fact that he has this history, we have not seen republican leadership come out against this type of extremism over the last several years. we have seen the extremism as well on capitol hill from people like steve king talking about immigrants and people of color and unless republican leadership stands out against these things they will continue to have this trump problem. i think right now where we are is that donald trump hasn't been forcefully ejected from the republican party from these kind of statements and this is the result. >> all right gentlemen, i wish we had more time. w

a few years ago you led the birther movement. you sent investigators to hawaii to find out whether or not obama was not born here and it turned out not to be true. >> according to you it's not true. >> he released his birth certificate. >> if you believe that, that's fine. i don't care. it's an old subject. i'm about jobs. i'm about security. i'm about fixing the military. i'm about taking care of our vets. i'm about things that you don't have to bring up old subjects. whether he did or not, who knows. a lot of people don't agree with you on that by the way. i'm really about economic development and i'm about jobs and that's what we have to start talking about and i'm about beating isis militarily and not acting like a bunch of babies like we're acting right now. >> do you have a plan for isis? >> i do have a plan actually. >> what is it? >> i would knock the hell out of the oil areas because they're rich as can be. they're building a hotel in iraq, they're renovating a hotel in iraq. they're renovating another hotel in a differe

i am still called a birther, and i have never been a birther.igned onto a bill in 2009 that, any future election, whoever is running, should prove that they are qualified as an american citizen. i thought that was a good idea and i still think it is, so we do not have those disputes. but i am called a birther. i am accused of saying that we are afraid that the federal government is going to invade and take over texas. what i find incredibly offenses -- incredibly offensive is that in this jane hellmann exercise i have never seen this before. a map was provided that show the states, including texas, texas was red, considered hostile. utah, another very conservative state, was considered hostile. a conservative area in southern california was considered hostile. i have participated in military games, helped plan them. i was in the army for four years. in fort benning. i have never seen real games used like that, and especially not in the united states. it is an affront, and offense. back in the late 1970's, when we were thinking of going into iran

. >> you remember that donald trump is the birther guy, he's the guy who's raising the fears about theer, about the outsider, the idea that barack obama is not really from here, he's not really an american. this is consistent and this is the dark side of donald trump. we dismiss him as a clownish figure, i think that's probably a dangerous thing to do. because while he's smiling and laughing and getting off those one-liners, he's speaking to the darker id of american political life which is fear of the other and fear of the outsider. and he will stoke it. he knows what sells. and we're in a time of cynicism and fear at the republican grassroots. not with the democrats. they love barack obama right now. they're cheering his greatest week. but the grassroots of the republican party, there's fear, and anger and cynicism and despite his smile and funny hair, he knows how to appeal to that sentiment. >> he also believes that the political establishment has not dealt effectively with the idea of illegal immigration, so he'll do it his way. >> i think that's true. >> chris christie was on the

his endorsement and a lot of you did one on one meetings in 2011 after he dropped out during his birther craze at the time and you actively reached out to him. in hindsight, was that a mistake for the party in general to embrace trump four years ago? >> his twitter handle is the real donald trump and i'll suggest to you, we're seeing the real donald trump now. >> i mean so this is the person that they built, the point that i'm trying to make is that he said very ugly things about president obama, very ugly things about any number of people and mexicans and there was none of this outrage from his opponents, tara. >> exactly. part of that is because again, i want to push the point is that a lot of the things that trump has said, so have other republicans and when you look at what they did to john kerry for instance when he was running for president with the whole swift boat thing diminishing his service to his country, when you look what the republicans did to max when he was running, look at the injuries that he suffered and look at how they disparaged his service. i can go on and on and

. >> we look back at those episode of 2011 when donald trump was leading the birther charge on president obama. president obama had his entire team at the white house, the entire political party backing him up on things. sometimes as president of the united states you can say, boy, people can say whatever they want to about the president of the united states he's kind of fair game. i think donald trump being a presidential candidate, he's not only taking on someone who is a political figure he's taking on an entire segment of americans as well as people who are immigrants coming from another country, and with kind of broad brush labeling big business is just saying we've had enough. >> let's talk about the attraction base with these types of comments and even what appeared to be support from senator ted cruz. >> reporter: you know, tamron there is kind of a way to be able to get a sizeable portion of republican caucus goers in iowa or other republican voters and that is that you end up taking a very hard line on immigration and immigration controls. and certainly his comments could end u

but it might be one they helped create, asking him for endorsements giving him air time letting his birtherrump is number one in a new national poll. he says his campaign had to move at an arizona event to a bigger space because so many people wanted to attend. and this week there was no oxygen for other candidates. >> you wouldn't even be hearing for the word "immigration" if it wasn't for dold trump. a lot of money, but fortunately i'm very rich. it doesn't matter to me. people agree with what i say. i've had tremendous success. >> do you accept that president obama was born in the united states? >> i really don't know. >> you don't know. >> i don't know why he wouldn't release his records. tell you something, if i get the nomination, i'll win the latino vote. i'll win it because i'm going to create jobs. jeb bush is a disaster in so many different ways. there's nothing to apologize for. there's nothing to apologize for. >> joining me now are victoria defran chesso soto and bill press. thank you both for being here. >> hi reverend al. >> thank you, reverend. >> bill trump says he's meetin

trump before that was one of the leading birthers questioning the authenticity of the president's birth certificate and where he was born. president obama, of course, was born in hawaii. but i think president obama not only going after the donald trump remarks but some of the other remarks of the other republicans. i know you will talk later in the program about comments made by former arkansas governor mike huckabee and also comments by senator ted krus accusing mitch mcconnell of lying on the senate floor. there's been a lot of talk about the language we're hearing from the republican party. on sunday, yesterday, on "state of the union" donald trump called in and i asked him what he made of the fact that he is only rising in the polls. take a listen to what he had to say. >> they view me as an outsider i guess and now they're starting to view me not as an outsider because i'm leading in all the polls and i think they've been really nice over the last few days. they're starting to see what's happening. there's a movement going on. this is more than me. this is a movement going on. peop

>>> remember when donald trump hurt the republican party with all that birther talk?ng time ago, though, right? wrong. here's today. >> you sent investigators out to hawaii to find out whether or not obama was you said was not born here. >> well i don't know -- >> that turned out not to be true. >> according to you it's not true. >> he released his birth certificate. >> if you believe that, that's fine. i don't care. it's an old subject. >> that's coming to a debate stage near you. the trump effect of 2016, next. are the t nkers. the job jugglers. the up all-nighters. and the ones who turn ideas into action. we've made our passions our life's work. we strive for the moments where we can say, "i did it!" ♪ ♪ we are entrepreneurs who started it all... with a signature. legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses, turning dreamers into business owners. and we're here to help start yours. ♪♪ in the nation, we know how you feel about your car. so when coverage really counts you can count on nationwide. ♪ love ♪ because what's precious to you is precious to us. ♪ l