bishara was still in power. i got some stories to tell about that. >> but you were elected vice president and then went to the executive branch. how how did you look at these reforms, recommendations once you changed branches? >> if i had any questions i would call someone to help me understand it. i think that was a fortuitous development that helped for a smooth transition, recommendations of the church community to the incorporation of those recommendations to the executive policies. and president carter agree with that. we -- i talked to the head of the agency's. they agreed to it. when our executive rules went into place there was almost unanimity within the executive branch and with the congress about where we wanted to go. that unanimity, i think the word for about five years. then slowly it went elsewhere. i would say our proposal was based on the idea that there has to be a separation and checks and balances' while trying to keep this information secret. it had not been tried before , and we gave it the