the bishop of heard from the bishop of newcastle, a seniorfigure in the church of england calling for him to go. she said that his position was untenable in her view and that him stepping aside would not solve all the problems, there were many others criticised in the review involving many other clergy, it is worth saying. this is not the sole responsibility of justin welby, he has become a focal point because of the criticism because of his position as the head of the church and taking institutional responsibility as well as personal. the bishop of newcastle saying yesterday that in her view his position was now untenable and many others alsojoining now untenable and many others also joining those calls for him to go, and as you say, in the last few minutes we have had that statement from lambeth palace confirming that he will 90, palace confirming that he will go, that he will resign. he has sought permission from the king to do so and will stand aside. we don't know the exact timings, he says himself that they will be decided on once a review of the obligations has taken place, inc

bishops? because the house of bishops with the exception of the bishop of newcastle were pretty much silent afterlast week. why do you think that is, and is that part of the culture that has to change, do you think? ., ~ that has to change, do you think? . ~ , ., think? yeah, i think it is. to be honest. _ think? yeah, i think it is. to be honest, i— think? yeah, i think it is. to be honest, i am _ think? yeah, i think it is. to be honest, i am a _ think? yeah, i think it is. to be honest, i am a member. think? yeah, | think it is. to. be honest, i am a member of general synod and in my first term of office, and even then you see this kind of superior hierarchy. the bishops sit at the front and the circle and part of me just wants to go and sit in the middle of them and see if anybody moves me on because i shouldn't be there. these are the quirky things and traditions of the church that are so entrenched in these ways of doing things it becomes almost paralysed by its capacity to do anything, and you see that in the wider sphere around discussions around safeguarding and matters of sexual identit

we heard most significantly yesterday from the bishop of newcastle, speaking to a religion editor, who the archbishop's position was in her view untenable, and she said that his resignation would not solve all the issues, but would be a line in the sand in the church's response and would show it was taking it seriously. there have been others, we heard from one of john smyth's victims, who echoed the calls for him to go and said if he did resign, it would be doing so alongside the other victims. many clergy and bishops had been raising their concerns. we are in uncharted territory, but do we know what will happen next? there is a lengthy statement, he said it is my duty to honour constitutional unchecked responsibilities. the archbishop of canterbury isn't just ahead of the church of england, but has wider constitutional rules in the fabric of the nation. the exact timings of his departure will be decided. it is worth saying it is a long process for choosing the next archbishop of canterbury. there will be a commission that takes in the opinion is right across the church of england and

a senior bishop says justin welby must resign as archbishop of canterbury over an abuse scandal in the church of england. the bishop of newcastlereverend helen—ann macleod hartley, told the bbc his position was "untenable". her comments follow a damning report into abuse byjohn smyth, who ran youth camps for the church. dr welby became aware of the abuse in 2013 — but did not report smyth to authorities. very ha rd to very hard to find the words to respond adequately to what the report tells us, truly horrendous, horrific and shocking, and i know through my diocese in the work we have done with survivors, just how deep and long—lasting this whole systemic, years and years of abuse, the impact notjust of abuse, the impact notjust of one perpetrator, but all survivors of church abuse, they are rightly asking questions, can we trust the church of england to keep us safe? i think the answer at the moment is no. new research shows that the planet uranus and its five biggest moons, in the outer reaches of our solar system, may not be the dead sterile worlds that scientists once thought. straight back to president biden. . ~' ,, biden

people like the bishop of newcastle, who has spoken out so courageously today, those people who clearlynality when it comes to protecting the vulnerable need to be the people in positions of authority. sojustin welby and all those senior clergy that did nothing but knew what was going on, they need to stand down. they need to be replaced by people who have a proven passion for this. mark stibbe, thank you very much for talking to newsnight this evening and to our audience. we are very grateful for your time. thank you. that was mark stibbe. we asked winchester college to respond to our interview, and they said they conducted an independent review in january 2022 so wouldn't comment any further. the makin report had some strong criticism of the church of england hierarchy and justin welby himself. it said, "john smyth could and should have been reported to the police in 2013. john smyth could have been brought to justice and any abuse he was committing in south africa discovered and stopped." "it was unlikely thatjustin welby would have had no knowledge of the concerns regarding john smy

in britain, the bishop of newcastle has become the first senior member of the church of england to callhe resignation of the archbishop of canterbury, justin welby, over a child abuse scandal. helen—ann hartley said the position of the spiritual leader of the anglican church was untenable. the saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman has called on israel to respect the sovereignty of iran at a summit of arab and muslim leaders in riyadh. in the latest sign of improved relations between riyadh and tehran, the crown prince said that israel should not launch attacks on iranian soil. spain's prime minister, pedro sanchez, has announced another $4 billion—worth of aid for areas hit by the recent deadly floods. last week, he signed off an initial package of $11 billion. more than 220 people died in the flash floods that hit valencia and nearby areas nearly two weeks ago. sir keir starmer has met french president emmanuel macron in paris to discuss ukraine — amid deep uncertainty about whether the united states will continue to support it after donald trump's election victory. it's the first tim

the bishop of newcastle has now added her voice to a petition by the general senate calling on justinit. it centers on a man who ran christian children's camps for many years. a report last week concluded that he had committed prolific brutal and horrific abuse against children. justin welby was notified of allegations as far back as 2013, but the man was allowed to move abroad with the knowledge of church officials where he continued to abuse children. here is our religion editor. >> arguably one of the most prolific abusers ever associated with the church of england, with more than 120 victims until his death in 2018. last week a report said that by 2013, the archbishop of canterbury new that inadequate action -- justin welby has apologized but says he won't resign. but today, one senior member of the church row cranks. >> i think it is very hard for the church, a nationally established church to continue to have a moral voice in y way, shape or form in our nation we cannot get our own house in order with regards to something critically important, something that would be asked of an

the bishop of newcastle has now added her voice to a petition by the general synod calling on justinoncluded that smyth had committed prolific, brutal and horrific abuse against children. justin welby was notified of allegations against smyth as far back as 2013 but smyth was allowed to move abroad with the knowledge of church officials, where he continued to abuse children. here's our religion editor, aleem maqbool. he was arguably one of the most prolific abusers ever associated with the church of england, with more than 120 victims until his death in 2018. last week, a report said that by 2013, the archbishop of canterbury knew, but inadequate action meant the abuse continued. justin welby�*s apologised, but says he won't resign. but today, one senior member of the church broke ranks. i think that it is very hard for the church, as the nationally established church to continue to have a moral voice in any way, shape orform in our nation, when we cannot get our own house in order with regard to something as critically important, something that would be asked of any institution, let

archbishop's role, it seems to me we've seen mob rule led by members of the church, including a bishop, anyone, especially the bishop of newcastleen—ann hartley, who called for the archbishop to resign, ought to be automatically excluded from consideration as his replacement as archbishop of canterbury. there is , sadly, canterbury. there is, sadly, a long history of bishops not backing their hierarchy all the way back to saint anselm. saint anselm and, fascinatingly, the barons supported him, but the bishops didn't, and saint thomas becket. i fear we may just have witnessed a repeat of this historic trend. as ever, let me know your views . know your views. mailmogg@gbnews.com. but i'm joined now by graham nichols, director of affinity gospel church. mr nichols, thank you very much for joining church. mr nichols, thank you very much forjoining me. isn't the archbishop being judged with hindsight? and he couldn't possibly have known these things, particularly when he was first told smith was not a very nice man. >> i think there is perhaps a lack of natural justice in that, that he may feel aggrieved about it. so i agree with you

the bishop of newcastle has now added her voice to a petition calling onjustin welby to quit. smyth had committed prolific, brutal and horrific abuse against children. justin welby was told of allegations against smyth in 2013, but smyth continued his abuse while living abroad. he died in 2018. here's our religion editor, aleem maqbool. i'mjohn smyth. he was arguably one of the most prolific abusers ever associated with the church of england, with more than 120 victims, until his death in 2018. last week, a report said that by 2013, the archbishop of canterbury knew, but inadequate action meant the abuse continued. justin welby�*s apologised, but says he won't resign. but today, one senior member of the church broke ranks. i think that it is very hard for the church, as the nationality established church, to continue to have a moral voice in any way, shape orform in our nation, when we cannot get our own house in order with regard to something as critically important, something that would be asked of any institution, let alone the church. given that, what do you think about the

the bishop of newcastle has now added her voice to a petition by the general synod calling on justinany years in the uk and africa. a report last week concluded that smyth had committed prolific, brutal and horrific abuse against children. justin welby was notified of allegations against smyth as far back as 2013, but smyth was allowed to move abroad with the knowledge of church officials, where he continued to abuse children. joining me now is janet eastham, the acting social and religious affairs editor at the telegraph. do you think has to go? i think now that we — do you think has to go? i think now that we have, one - do you think has to go? i think| now that we have, one bishop's ranks called his position untenable, i would agree with her. it is very hard imagine what staying the play. 0ne one of the wider issue for the church itself? the failure to report the abuse is enough in itself that is not... they don't want this to be about the water issue. they wanted a failure to act. it should be enough. but yes, there are failures of leadership. there are other failures of his own.

the bishop of newcastle has now added her voice to a petition by the general synod, calling onjustinby to quit. it centrrs on a man called john smyth who ran christian children's camps for many years. a report last week concluded that smyth had committed prolific, brutal and horrific abuse against children. justin welby was notified of allegations against smyth as far back as 2013, but smyth was allowed to move abroad with the knowledge of church officials, where he continued to abuse children. here's our religion editor aleem maqbool. he was arguably one of the most prolific abusers ever associated with the church of england, with more than 120 victims until his death in 2018. last week, a report said that by 2013, the archbishop of canterbury knew, but inadequate action meant the abuse continued. justin welby�*s apologised, but says he won't resign. but today, one senior member of the church broke ranks. i think that it is very hard for the church, as the nationality established church to continue to have a moral voice in any way, shape orform in our nation, when we cannot get our

the bishop of newcastle has now added her voice to a petition calling on justin welby to quit.rrific abuse against children. justin welby was told of allegations against smyth in 2013, but smyth continued his abuse while living abroad . he died in 2018. here's our religion editor aleem maqbool. i'mjohn smyth. he was arguably one of the most prolific abusers ever associated with the church of england, with more than 120 victims, until his death in 2018. last week, a report said that by 2013, the archbishop of canterbury knew, but inadequate action meant the abuse continued. justin welby�*s apologised, but says he won't resign. but today, one senior member of the church broke ranks. i think that it is very hard for the church, as the nationality established church, to continue to have a moral voice in any way, shape orform in our nation, when we cannot get our own house in order with regard to something as critically important, something that would be asked of any institution, let alone the church. given that, what do you think about the position of the archbishop of canterbury?

this is a senior bishop in the church of england who's called for him to resign. this is bishop of newcastlelen—ann hartley , newcastle, helen—ann hartley, who's described justin welby's position as untenable and claimed the church was in danger of losing complete credibility. just before christmas, as well . just before christmas, as well. this is following a report into a barrister who's thought to have been the most prolific serial abuser to be associated with the church. this is child sexual abuse. basically, he's dead now. this guy called john smythe, or smith, thought to have abused as many as 130 boys and young men in the uk and in africa because they sort of moved him around. it's the classic sort of way of dealing with the issue by pretending it doesn't exist, not addressing it, and then just moving the offender to somewhere he can offender to somewhere he can offend , you know, with, with, offend, you know, with, with, you know, people who haven't accused him yet. >> it's staggering, isn't it.7 the naivety, the idea that this guy would have stopped when you moved him. and i have to

position was going to stand until really late last night, early this morning, when one bishop, the bishop of newcastleishop, the bishop of newcastle, several very senior priests in the church of england and lots of john smith's victims, actually have now come forward and said that they would like to see welby resign. meanwhile, keir starmer, the prime minister, is refusing to back the archbishop of canterbury. he says it is just a matter for the church now. i mean the, the scale of this scandal, it does bear just repeating. john smith abused 130 boys and lots of people are arguing that it is because of welby's actions. welby's negligence, if you like , welby's negligence, if you like, that he was not [000:09:45;00] [000:09:45;00]

national assembly for him to resign, and yesterday in the most significant development, the bishop of newcastlefigure in the the bishop of newcastle, a senior figure in the church of england, calling for him to quit saying his position was untenable. those calls were also being made in private i understand today, and justin welby in the last few minutes confirming that he will resign. he says in the statement that the last few days have renewed my long felt and profound sense of shame at the historic safeguarding failures of the church of england. he goes on to say that he has struggled to introduce improvements and it is for others tojudge introduce improvements and it is for others to judge what has been done. is for others to 'udge what has been done.— is for others to 'udge what has been done. harry, thank you so much for _ been done. harry, thank you so much for that. _ been done. harry, thank you so much for that. we _ been done. harry, thank you so much for that. we will - been done. harry, thank you so much for that. we will return i much for that. we will return to you shortly, but let

about the house of bishops —— willful blindness, those of the very typing silent after the absolutely damning report last week about the abuse with the exception of the bishop of newcastlems to me that _ culture in the church? it seems to m

today bishop of newcastle doctor hartleyjoined growing calls for the archbishop to quit and said she report published last week and said that the impact of it was that people cannot trust the church is a moral voice and it cannot get its own house in order. she went on to say thatjustin welby�*s position is untenable. justin welby for his part said that the first time he was told of the abuse was in 2013 and he apologised last week for failing to make sure they are locations where in his words, energetically investigated at the time. he did say he had considered resigning but was given advice against it. and lambeth palace said this morning the archbishop reiterates his horror at the abuse but was not intending to stand down. the abuse but was not intending to stand down-— 2024 is due to be the hottest on record according to the un's climate scientists. the warning comes as the international community meets to discuss climate change at the cop29 conference in azerbaijan. 0ur climate editorjustin rowlatt is in baku for us. justin, what will be be top of the agenda? top of the agenda he

this is a senior bishop in the church of england who's called for him to resign. this is bishop of newcastley , newcastle, helen—ann hartley, who's described justin welby's position as untenable and claimed the church was in danger of losing complete credibility. just before christmas, as well . just before christmas, as well. this is following a report into a barrister who's thought to have been the most prolific serial abuser to be associated with the church. this is child sexual abuse. basically, he's dead now. this guy called john smythe, or smith, thought to have abused as many as 130 boys and young men bit like, really, how do you sleep at night? >> and you should go and never mind an energetic investigation. i'd settle for just mind an energetic investigation. i'd settle forjust a half hearted, lazy investigation. just something rather than ignonng just something rather than ignoring the issue and letting it continue. >> exactly. to have heard any of it and not done a thing. rot in hell. yeah . hell. yeah. >> and also, this isn't the. this isn't the first child sex abuse case that jus

canterbury to resign today following the latest revelations in the john smyth review, with the bishop of newcastle claiming his position is now untenable. sir keir starmer is in azerbaijan for the global climate conference today. he's committed the uk to harsher emissions targets, down by 81% as soon as 2035. are you willing to stump up more cash for the climate and altrincham residents are furious as they learn hundreds of illegal migrants in their local hotels will receive private health care alongside their free accommodation, all courtesy, of course, of the taxpayer . why are the people who taxpayer. why are the people who come here illegally being given superior services than the rest of us.7 and it's a special show today. of course , because emily today. of course, because emily carver is down in exmoor for us on a really rather miraculous farm. where are you.7 on a really rather miraculous farm. where are you? emily? >> i am in north devon, not far from barnstable. i have a lovely dog here who's been helping us sheep herd today. i've been learning a bit more about life on a farm, but also i

the bishop of newcastle, and say, you have to resign. but this has been going on for a long time.ple knew as early as the 1980s and certainly by 2013 it was known. so there have to be more people involved and i don't know, the archbishop of canterbury, i'm sure is actually a decent man. he failed in particular ways and he's resigned. but what would be wrong would to be say, well, they've got their man now and it's all over. there's a systemic problem here. how did this abuse occur? how was it allowed to continue when other people knew about it? it's not just the church of england. other religious organisations, not just religious organisations, sports clubs and the family social clubs and so on. abuse occurs when there's power, when there are vulnerable people and when other people do not speak out and say there is a crime occurring here and it must stop. and that's what happened here. people obviously knew and they did not stand up and be brave enough to say , no, enough. brave enough to say, no, enough. we have to report this person to the police. >> it's interesting listening t