with the recovery, we saw price of bitcon billy tubbs $20,000 at the end of last year and market caphed $20,000 at the end of the year -- last year. what organizations once thought as a train they may have missed, they feel they have an opportunity to get in. we are watching that. brad: do you agree? if you are a big institution, have you lost your appetite for cryptocurrency? joe: i find that answer to be interesting and one of the most important questions or important themes for the whole space. no doubt that the second half of 2017, the last few months particularly, so much interest in that institutional money that was supposed to be coming in, and it does seem like platforms like the coinbase platforms, was missing, when there is custody, legal clarity, things like that, the money would be coming in but i was fascinated to see that this year we have not seen that buildout of institutional infrastructure, not only coinbase's and other relentless selling of -- no news has boosted the price of any cryptocurrency for any time. the exact opposite of the second half of 2017 where it is