i could have posted it to bittorrent or... and you say that now, knowing what we know?for example, went through this information — this is back injuly of 2010 when you did the first big dump was put into the public domain. the times newspaper found the names of dozens of afghans credited with providing detailed intelligence to us forces. the taliban then went on the record saying, "we are analysing all of this data and we will take "retribution against those individuals that we find "in this reporting from wikileaks." right. amnesty international and the open society institute then said, "we have seen the negative, sometimes deadly ramifications for those afghans who have been identified." that was all your work. right. and, again, we went through a court martial process and those allegations didn't show up. you know, they made the allegation that, you know, obviously the taliban said that they were going to retribute against people, and then the government couldn't identify anybody who was held accountable or... so as far as you and your conscience are concerned... mm—

one that i had the most sort of interaction with — then i was going to use some other tool like bittorrentsomething like that, to post this information, which would have been... that would have been my even more of a last resort. that would have been my more desperate. right. you did the war logs and the war diaries dump and then you then released all of these diplomatic cables, which had different kinds of information, secret confidential information involving the us government's contacts with individuals on the ground and a whole host of countries. just to take one small example, but not small to the individual involved, an ethiopian journalist, reporter argaw ashine, was forced to flee the country because he was named in a us cable and he believed it put his life in immediate danger. he had to flee, leave his homeland and again wouldn't have happened had you not taken your decision to leak. again, you know, you're talking about situations that i'm not familiar with, that weren't brought before a court... but that's the point. you weren't familiar with them because there's no way you cou