>> we have talked to bivium.hey have suggested adjusting a fund and they would help was the transition. >> this is not the first time we've graduated without terminating the underlying fund of fund-to-fund manager. need to terminate the fund to fund manager in order to get access to something that under a contract, a manager that no longer meets the definition of fund to fund. so they're contractual language in there that basically says we can without bivium -- >> like bledsoe. >> there's no connection there other than the funding of where the money that is currently with vva with bivium will go. i think we've tried to say that we don't need that money and that there will be, in the next couple of months, guidelines being brought back to you before we would execute. we haven't negotiated the contract yet. there's no linkage and no contingency on needing to take action on number eight before approval of number seven. >> but if i -- fiduciarily, it's important not to get charged by bivium. we should just be doing t