now on bbc news, the arts interviews: abba — bjorn and benny.are one of the most popular groups in musical history, having sold hundreds of millions of albums. they won the eurovision song contest in 1974 and split up around eight years later, but it's never really felt like they have been away. after a 39—year gap, the band recorded a new album in 2021, and returned to the stage last year in london, not in the flesh, but as digital avatars — 2d recreations of themselves from 1979. in a worldwide exclusive interview to mark 12 months of the abba voyage show, i went to the studio of the band in stockholm to talk to bjorn ulvaeus and benny andersson — two of the globe�*s most successful songwriters. it's the one year anniversary of the abba voyage show. it took years to create. you described it as a risk because you didn't know if people were going to come and see digital recreations of you. is it a gamble that has paid off? most certainly, yes. artistically definitely. why do you say artistically definitely? because we achieved more than we could

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bjorn lomborg heads the copenhagen consensus center. his book is called "best things first."here. >> and the good news is there is a lot of low hanging fruit, a lot of stuff that you could spend a certain amount of money that would not be difficult for countries and achieve a lot. >> absolutely. the bottom line of the book is we could spend $35 billion. that is not nothing, neither you or i have that, but in the not global scheme of things that is couch change. $35 billion a year. and you could save 4.2 million lives each and every year and make the poor half the world $1.1 trillion richer each and every year. that is almost $1 per person per day in the entire poorer half the world. >> and so explain what is the biggest bang for the buck you could get? >> let me give you one example for maternal and newborn health, one thing that surprised me is a lot of moms die in childbirth. about 300,000 moms die each and every year and 2.3 million kids die in the first 28 days on the planet. if we invested about $5 billion per year in basic -- you need to get women into a facilities to g

bjorn, it's about- bjorn, it's about proportionality.uesday . british on tuesday. british holidaymakers are being warned to holidaymakers are being warned te cnect— holidaymakers are being warned te cnect ten— holidaymakers are being warned to check for curfews and travel nectntcttenc— to check for curfews and travel restrictions .— to check for curfews and travel restrictions . the— to check for curfews and travel restrictions . the government is restrictions. the government is atntng— restrictions. the government is atntng te— restrictions. the government is atntng te employ— restrictions. the government is aiming to employ 300,000 new ctant— aiming to employ 300,000 new ctatt tn— aiming to employ 300,000 new staff in england— aiming to employ 300,000 new staff in england as part of its uns— staff in england as part of its nhs workforce— staff in england as part of its nhs workforce plan . more nhs workforce plan. more tectenc— nhs workforce plan. more doctors, nurses- nhs workforce plan. more doctors, nurses and other health care work

times, and he's aiming for his fifth title in a row at the all england club, only roger federer and bjornoat, the greatest male player now full—time, do you feel like the goat? full-time, do you feel like the goat? ., , ., full-time, do you feel like the goat? . , ., ., , full-time, do you feel like the goat? . ., goat? that is a really good way to ask the question _ goat? that is a really good way to ask the question but _ goat? that is a really good way to ask the question but no, _ goat? that is a really good way to ask the question but no, i - goat? that is a really good way to ask the question but no, i do - ask the question but no, i do not allow myself to call myself the goat because i feel that is disrespectful to all of the generations of players that are paved the way for us. being a part of the history that deeply moves me and inspires me, motivates me and of course, it is thrilled to be able to get the 23rd slam. hora? be able to get the 23rd slam. how many more _ be able to get the 23rd slam. how many more can — be able to get the 23rd slam. how many more can you _ be able to

victoria derbyshire has sat down with benny and bjorn to mark the anniversary.m in 2021, and returned to the stage last year in london, not in the flesh, but as digital avatars — 2d recreations of themselves from 1979. in a worldwide exclusive interview to mark 12 months of the abba voyage show, i went to the studio of the band in stockholm to talk to bjorn ulvaeus and benny andersson — two of the globe's most successful songwriters. it's the one year anniversary of the abba voyage show. it took years to create. you described it as a risk because you didn't know if people were going to come and see digital recreations of you. is it a gamble that has paid off? most certainly, yes. artistically definitely. why do you say artistically definitely? because we achieved more than we could ever hope for. seeing this happening after four or five years of work in different areas, coming there, seeing the first preview and realising that the audience actually connected to what was on there, not like they were watching a movie, but is if we were actually there, which we are

bjorn borg, do you how bjorn was you know how old bjorn borg was when from playing when he retired from because you've murray, because i know you've got judy on a little bit later. but but andy the but but andy murray, the dedication andy has shown, dedication that andy has shown, it's unbelievable when it's just unbelievable when people a great people think, oh, what a great charmed it must be. go out charmed life. it must be. go out and play tennis after the operations he had to operations that he had to try and get back and it's you know, it's solitary work as well. it's not with where you would not like with where you would get teams and everybody would join together. this a guy join together. this is a guy that's just got to keep working, keep working, keep working. and it's something that he will never so, you know, and never give up. so, you know, and he's he's a mummy is coming he's he's just a mummy is coming in today. well what time what the— in today. well what time what ttheltwty— in today. well what time what time .judy murray. - “ 3 well what time what time judy murray. 8

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benny, and frida and the benny, bjorn and frida and the place erupted., carol? the bit that i kept thinking about like was at my about is like if it was me at my age looking at what i age now, looking back at what i looked when i was younger, looked like when i was younger, i'd slightly depressed. we i'd be slightly depressed. we said that we you want said that we said you would want to-yonreen. — said that we said you would want to .yourself. and— said that we said you would want to yourself. and those to kill yourself. and those two girls— to kill yourself. and those two gins—nere- to kill yourself. and those two girls—were andi girls say what they were and neo— girls say what they were and tney .— girls say what they were and oney i neon— girls say what they were and they i mean, they looked incredible.— they i mean, they looked incredible. yeah. would make incredible. yeah. it would make you— incredible. yeah. it would make yon—ont- incredible. yeah. it would make yon—ent. youl you a little bit upset, but, you know.— you a little bit upset, but, you