[laughter] some might argue black church is the firstk black theater music is everything gospel music. >> entertainment shouldn't be in the church who do you think the preacher is? that is entertainment. [laughter] >> the african-american churches 80 through 90 percent women but the leadership is through 80 or 90 percent male there is a price to pay. >> if you say you are born this way then you tell god you are a liar. we are a testament to the goodness in the grace of god everything in the world has tried to kill us. >> so the place where people made waves out of nowhere and we were told to look back and wonder how we got over. we call it the church. wow. let me just say to any of our listeners and watchers today if youd have not seen that series you need to see that series it is intended with the book it is so powerful, skip. >> thank you. sorry to get ahead of myself. but this idea toki look at the history of the black church through mother emmanuel and asking you to look backwards from 1816ro and forward through 2015 there is a lot going on there that i think you beautifully bring

but they try to restrict black rights and black freedom and put black people to as close a state to slavery as possible. and several of these were egregious. the mississippi black code was probably the worst. they enacted vagrancy laws saying if a black person is found not working for someone, he can be arrested and fined. in order to pay his fine, he's released to a plantation to work for a planter. if a black person is tilling his own land or is self-employed, he's defined as a vagrant. they vase black people to enter into year-long contracts to work in plantations. so get to sort of commandeer black labor the way they had under slavery. enticement laws, meaning if i have signed a contract with a black person for his labor, if another person comes to him and offers him more money to work for him, he can't do it. that's a criminal offense. that's enticing my laborer. now is that the free market? wage labor? that is not how it works, right. would you work for the guy who pays you the most. but that is not allowed. what is the apprenticeship laws do? they literally took black children out of

were almost majority black.ern states. and that was true even befores. the civil war. south carolina was negra country because it was full of black people when that of course is because of the economy and their productivity rise in the islands and expertise of africans to the south carolina. indigo grove price but also free black communities we know the ame church of the first black denomination and formed in philadelphia by richard allen. informally born in 1960. in charleston, there is a manual church. and in 1822, a man came to work as you know, those accused of plotting an insurrection in charleston. how do we get free, i want you to listen to this because this is one of the ironies of american history the complexity of slavery. he was an enslaved man in 1799 and he played a lottery like you play at the grocery store. and he won $1500 prettied and used 600 of those $1500 to buy histo own freedom from his so-called owners. and so after 1800, he was street. in 1822, very prominent man, we don't know if it was

out of it came our black businesses, our black education institutions. >> the black church gave peoplee, belonging and worthiness.. i don't know how we could have survived as a people without it. >> tell the story of american religion is to tell w a politicl story. >> the black church helped us to withstand all the slings and arrows of segregation and the segregationists. >> we are willing to be beaten for democracy. >> with the five great black breaches of all time. there's so many. >> jeremiah wright. >> arthur taylor. >> howard thurman. >> presiding bishop michael curry. >> love can be sacrificial. >> did you think you would get one amen? >> i learned how to see a man in their eyes. >> somebody argued black church is the first black theater. >> the music is everything. >> how do you find gospel music? >> gospel music talks about the majesty of jesus. >> entertainment shouldn't be in the church. what do you think the preacher does? that's entertainment. >> the african-american church is 80-90% women but the leadership is 80 have 90% male. >> there's an awful price to pay when you say

blacks. but we did not want to author a point by point debate or rebuttal. we wanted to offer an inspirational and aspirational alternative narrative that acknowledges what 1619 is that slavery has been underreported and poorly examined. we acknowledge that, but the conclusions that we reached are very different than that which is articulated in 1619, and so we brought together a group of scholars, journalists and activists, different ideological stripes and we offered these essays to offer-- to establish the fact that 1776 is the birthday of america and that the values of our founders, no matter how flawed, have been the foundation upon which blacks are able to survive slavery as discrimination. the foundation of family, attitude and self-determination. and so we felt that it was important for this book to be written to give an alternative vision to america about the plight of blacks. we should never be defined by slavery or jim crowe. we are more than that. >> tell us about your title. let

washington black wall street in texas we knew about it. black wall street.was the cause this man was born into slavery he taught my grandfather and my mom. he taught a lot these people think juneteenth. we knew about juneteenth. we knew in 1865 that was taught to us. it was a family affair it was about the crops. then you go on and there is a man that is never talked about to succeed against the odds. john h johnson. he always played in his magazine, anthony, a day in history. black wall street, that cancer city call. those are things we need to teach her children to read. we don't go to school boards. i have grandchildren. we don't attend the pta. you can make a change. the superintendent asked me how was it about segregation? i said it was about teaching. people teaching. books. >> good morning thank you for taking my call. i do not remember the name that you mentioned that you run a school that that is a perspective but not a global issue in terms of what happens to black people in this nation because you mentioned we are losing the race to other nations.

people of emancipation why there's many black in towns and white has black wall street of course, the anniversary of the massacre just past the more people are far more aware of the black wall street in its existence. and so at this moment, and reconstruction indian territory history is really one of those interesting historical moments where my identity is both historian and dissented of former slaves which i call craig people. and i have to recognize something is legally wrong as u.s. intervention in the foreign nation or is indian nation known after the turkey nation in the georgia supreme court case domestic case the nation. but i also have to recognize the people like my family might never have been freight if not for these technically legal and just actions on the part of the united states. now going to use that term for former slaves and again and again. in a free people in general target i use my work to refer to any former slaves of any of five tribes and of course more specifically, the chickasaw's freed men and women specifically. and so the reason that the land designated

a black regiment. i secured the 1,000 men and they appointed me as their colonel. he applied the principles of military training in drilling he observed in the confederate army and cavalry when he was hyman's man servant. singleton and his men did not have access to equipment or weapons but improvised and managed to drill at least once a week. in addition to assembling the men for training he noted that i supported myself by whatever i could get to do and my men did likewise. when burnside arrived in newbern, he noted that residents and white people in particular were for some time suffering for food and that this suffering and anxiety is far beyond anything i had anticipated, he recalled. refugees presented themselves to serve in the military while also employing creative ways to survive. despite prevailing white fears of dependency and indolence among african-americans they made earnest efforts to work even as the government failed to pay them their wages at various moments in the war. the missed sca

speaker of the house will black, secretary of state was black rated the secretary of treasury was black but it wasn't, his about reconstruction predict and the evils of getting the blackman the right to vote. member the famous scene were black men in the legislature. and they had their feet up. they were sucking on chicken bones and they all got up and they say that this was made legal. [laughter] is terrible. it was terrible, it was horrible. so thank you for asking that question and we can see the power of the church in politics. and often, christianity, has been accused, religion the being the opioid of people. and as i write, people forget the rest of this, there's more to thatt quote. but for african-american christians, they never were allowed to be political because the black church starting with the ame church was born in politics and as a protest against anti- black racism because richard allen and jones were pretending that the methodist church in philadelphia, and integrated church in a headset in the back and jim crow in effect before this.rc and jones was praying and one of

louisiana and mississippi were majority black states and ground zero for the black community was charleston chairman clyburn says to me in the film in those six or seven states , that is true even before the civil war. south carolina nickname was negro country. it was full of black people because of the economy and the productivity and the expertise the africans brought to south carolina but also there was a sizable pre- black community and we know the ame church is the first black congregation formed inn philadelphia with richard allen and formally but in charleston and in 1822 the man was accused of plotting and insurrection. >> and that's one of the ironies to be and enslaved man in 1799 he plays the lottery like the grocery store anyone $1500 and he use that and he bought his freedom from his so-called owners. and then he was a very prominent man and then with that part of insurrection in charleston and he was found guilty and of course he was executed. the church was completely destroyed now there was enormous sensitivity that's not even the right word there is paranoia because the hai

some might argue black church is the first black theater. the role of music in theblack church is everything . >> how do you define gospel music?? >> it's the presentation that talks about the majesty of jesus. >> entertainment shouldn't be in the church, what do you think the preacher does ? that's entertainment. >> the african-american church is 80 to 90 percent women but the leadership is 80 to 90percent male . there's an awful price to pay when you say that your a loving person. >> if you say you wereborn this way you're saying god, you're a liar . >> we are a testament to the goodness and grace of god. everything in the world has tried to kill us and we're still here . >> christ says i made your race and i've made no mistakes. >> he was our ball in gilead, the place where our people made way out of no way. >> we call it the church. >> wow. let me just say to any of our listeners, watchers today if you havenot seen that series, you need to see that series . it's in tandem with the book, it's just so powerful. >> thank you. >> sorry to ge

he helped form an earlier group of black caucus members before the formalization of the black caucus in 1971. charles diggs was a leader and d.c. hall, also a leader in anti- apartheid in south africa. chair of the african subcommittee and chair of the district of columbia you will hear all about them i'm happy to add as my vice chair secretary rodney slater. rodney slater from arkansas was not only a secretary of transportation but an administrator. for many years i've been privileged to work with him he was a special advisor to president bill clinton. he was previously also an assistant attorney general and arkansas. he's one of the co-owners i might add washington nationals baseball team. so glad to have a serving in the archives to be a moderator and guest host. i turn it over to you secretary slater and thanks. thank you governor, thank you, mr. chairman pure wonderful leadership of the national archives foundation. thank you for your distinguished service over the years. especially thank you for kicking off our program and sharing with us some of your personal experiences with

recruitment of black soldiers. but for the creation of the united states colored troops, refugees and free black men like union soldiers, in the southern locale they offered their services. some are literate, others were starving, others were barely even clothes. what many of them possessed a keen awareness of the region, its land and its customs. it would take the cooperation of officers, and legal arguments for black enlistment to make that action official policy. before the insides men landed at newark, prominent like leaders tried to stake their political claims of military service. the right to bear arms, to defend themselves and their loved ones. the expressions of patriotism, and the access to the privilege and honor associated with military service, gave the meaning of the war shape for black men. a black veteran of the mexican american war, -- just one week after fort sumter, said i know of some 300 colored citizens of the city, and he was talking about d.c., who desire to enter the service. to underscore

and it's an all-black unit. they usually had a white commanding officer, whether they were with each unit or not. but he drove tanks, took part in building roads as the engineer battalions did, clearing the way for soldiers. he was -- took part in the battle of the bulge. and that was the first time where he really saw death and bodies as a soldier, at this young page of both strangers and people he knew. so it was, you know, really impactful on his life. >> we have a comment from a viewer named richard. richard writes in, i often wonder why these men volunteers? because today more than ever we know they were often treated poorly by their fellow soldiers. i think as a group they had more pride. and richard's comment actually leads in very nicely to a clip we have directly from dr. bass describing this in 1988 where he describes the impact seeing a dead soldier had on him. >> another time i saw someone i didn't know. he happened to be white. he was about my age, he was on the ground and his eyes were wide open. t

but he's black and his father is black and they are the blackest of black, right? so give you a little clip of adam. >> i stood one day before the greatest ruler of this day. god said to moses, what's in your hand? moses said, lord, i've got a stick, that's all. he said let me use what's in your hand. and god used that slave boy with a stick in his hand to divide the red seas, marched through a wilderness, drained water out of rocks, manna from heaven and brings people to the freedom land. what's in your hand? what's in your hand? one with god. always. walk with him and talk with him and speak together and fight together and with god's hand in your hand, the victory will be accomplished here sooner than you dreamed, sooner than you hoped, sooner than you prayed for, sooner than you imagined. good night and god bless you. >> so adam was cool, all those things, and he led in the congress until he was unceremoniously put out of congress in the late 1960s. adam, unfortunately or fortunately had a little trouble in an island called bimini. that island seems to be a stic

no there are millions of black kids, 3 million black kids in college today. we have black people who are leaders in every possible industry, policy so i just yearn for the caller to recognize the incredible progress has been made and still has to be done but we need to remove this idea that somehow there's a stigma to be a black people. we eradicate that kind of thinking especially for young people. >> janel wilson, did you want to respond? >> i didn't hear him say their work successful black people. i interpreted his comment saying students should be taught about systemic racism because it would help them understand why the united states operates in a way that does you agree is a stigma against being black for having darker complected skin but we do have to recognize that systemic racism does discriminate against people who are black so you can say that you agree that there's racism and say there isn't a stigma, there is. it's just systemic racism so people do have to absolutely exceptions. there are exceptions to every pool because that's the way that capit

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too many black men are in prison. too many black men are out of prison, but semi-employable for the rest of their lives. and you can look at that imbalance, and i say that is a terrible thing. but the way you eliminate it is not to teach white people not to be racist. that's not going to solve the problem. nor do i think that going into the criminal-justice system and trying to find examples of how sentencing bias is a racist endeavor and to reverse the racism of judges and prosecutors and all the other people involved -- i don't think that's going to work. but i do believe that an awful lot of what we see is stimulated and kept going by the war on drugs. if there's a possibility to have money in your pocket on the basis of selling drugs on the black market, not getting rich, but ving money in your pocket, naturally, a critical mass of people are going to drift into selling drugs for a living. i firmly believe that if that black market didot exist, then the very same black men would be more likely to stay in school. t

bass and the members of his unit as black angels. so certainly their presence had a great impact on those that on the survivors those that he helped. and that for many we've heard that for many of these survivors. this was the first black person that they had ever seen and for them. this was the face of america. this was the face of a nation that had fought for their freedom were having many audience comments. excuse me coming in about the impact that dr. leon bass had when he spoke about his experiences because he spoke far and wide just to read one karen writes to say that dr. bass spoke at an event that i brought my students to his impact on them was amazing and another woman writes adele writes that dr. leon bass liberated my father at buchanwald concentration camp. my dad had the chance to speak with him years ago at an event at rutgers college. so there's someone who you know might not be alive. if not for the efforts of soldiers like, dr. bass. janine how about dr. baldwin? who i know you've had the chance to meet and talk to

abe black. we didn't want to offer a point by point debate or rebuttal. we wanted to offer an inspirational and aspirational up turn of the narrative that acknowledge his wit 1619 and slavery have been underreported and poorly examined. we acknowledge that at the conclusion we reached which is articulated in 1619. wewe brought together group of scholars journalists and activists with different stripes and we offered these assays to establish the fact that 1776 is the birthday of america and the values of our founders no matter how far had been the foundation upon which blacks were able to advise slavery is discrimination and an attitude of self-determination. we felt it was important for this book to be written to give an alternative vision to america about the plight of blacks. we should never be defined by slavery or jim crow. >> tell us about your title and let me read the title again. "red, white and black" rescuing american history from revisionists and and race hustlers. there iss a lot th

, it's like, but you know, he's black and his father's black, and they are the blackest of black, rightgive you a little clip of adam. >> [inaudible] >> most said -- he said let me use what is in your hand and got used the stick to divide the red seas. [inaudible] what is in your hand? [applause] what is in your hand? walk with god! walk with him! talk with him! work with him! think together, fight together! with god's hand in your hand, the victory will be accomplished. sooner than you prayed for. sooner than you imagined. good night and god bless. >> so adam was cool, all those things. and he led in congress till he was unceremoniously put out of congress. in the late 1960s. adam unfortunately, or fortunately had a little bit of trouble in an island called the money. the island seems to be a sticky place for politicians. both he and presidential candidate gary heart, both probably got caught doing monkey business. let me put it that way. and others. again, the father son of business, the leadership, political, martin luther king jr., of reverend martin king senior. the grandson of rev

last year being on the | black -- black unity bike ride felt black —— black unity bike ride felt likevers beeping their horns. it was just a really positive vibe. i think what is even more powerful is when you've got a massive ride like the lack unity like ride, last year we probably had only 20— 25% women in attendance. —— black unity. this year we have had over a00 people register and 50% of them are black women. over 400 people register and 50% of them are black women.— them are black women. organisers hoe them are black women. organisers hone events _ them are black women. organisers hone events in _ them are black women. organisers hope events in group _ them are black women. organisers hope events in group like - them are black women. organisers hope events in group like this - them are black women. organisers hope events in group like this will. hope events in group like this will get more black cyclist into the sport and the movement will continue to gain momentum. david pitt, bbc news. we will continue the sporting theme because at the olympics this year we have seen skateboa

of blackness and the pathology of shilling black people. i want to feel that, why let it wash over me? let me understand what a mom are. bree was feeling as he was running away from a truck behind him. and 2 people in front of him, white vigilante is we who are trying to hunt him down like an animal. and so i wanted us to feel that. so i read those transcripts. i. i looked at those tapes. i felt the horror of the terror of the trauma, the grief that all of us as black people and hopefully american citizens and hopefully global citizens felt when we spied what was going on in those tapes. and then those transcripts. to me is a social worker. she has a question for you, michael, have a list and have a how do you write an entire book still, concisely, especially with the amount of emotion that comes with the topic in being a black man? ah, bless you my love, you know, it takes a right writing and rewriting. i think the best writer is a re writer. so you've got to put it on paper, you got to let it be cathartic. you got to let it call. come out

black repression. and those are the kinds of behaviors that i thank you so being associated with critical race. people roughly so people are concerned that those kinds of actions are violations of the very provisions that prohibit racial discrimination as well as compel by saying that i'm an oppressor and it violates an amendment. a. >> on of those practices, they were just talking about, pretty. >> so i have participated and i do training around antiracism and i participate professional development and lead around antiracism and will talk about power privilege and oppression. some of the practices that your name are rhino practices but i don't know what exactly an estate. i have never done or seen a privileged walk were somewhat he said that because you are white, do this and because you're black do that pretty can't necessary. >> mike: it but i speak to that particular, i do know that privilege walks in the way that i have seen them and often times i can illustrate the ways that society already exist

but also even beyond the idea of studying black prisoners of why is the question of why call them black prisoners of war? if confederacy did not treat black soldiers as legitimate knorr illegitimate combatants. the main argument i composite in my work is the confederacy treated black soldiers as recovered property, as property to be distributed and used as necessary. as property, could not be treated in the same ways as soldiers were, as white soldiers, in particular. i'll go through some of those differences. i refer to them as black prisoners of war, even though the confederacy did not because that is what they were. a black prisoner of war was a legitimate combatant, armed by the president of the united states and should have been protected under the laws of war. within the boundaries of the confederacy, that protection was stripped away. they were protected in different ways and minor ways, as we'll talk about. but that is an important distinction, this idea of legitimacy and what these men had to do in order to survive and navigate their captivity. so beyond even just looking at bl

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here in the united states february's black history month to commemorate this we talk about black americans who went in the u.s. military world war ii and help to defeat nazi germany. their services have been more remarkable when you are against the backdrop of persecution they face at home even while fighting for their country abroad this is tree has often been buried or overlooked, we hope to set -- shed some light on it in today's program. i'm pleased to be joined by two special guests today tell bring adapted to life. first jeanine brown is an award winning author for the washington post and she is from the university of maryland. hi there. >> good morning, great to be here. >> so glad you're here. lynn williams is a longtime friend and colleague who is an educational program consultant. so good to see you, ellen. >> good to see you as well. good morning to our guests. >> during today's program, please send -- in the comments section and we will for the course of the live show. when, let's begin with you in setting the scene. we have a lot of international viewers on this program, may b

there was this huge rise of the black middle class. >> you get advertisers turning toward black people. so you can see why norman lear creating "sanford & son." ♪ >> i was in las vegas, and the lounge act was redd foxx. and i came back just delirious with the possibility. >> you know what it says in the bible. love thy neighbor. >> well, the guy who wrote the bible didn't live in this neighborhood. if he had he would have said love thy neighbor but locketh thy window. >> redd foxx just felt like this comedic force. >> "sanford & son" is set in the 1970s in watts, where there's this crotchety old man who runs a junk yard with his adult son lamont, who wants to sort of get rich quick. >> there's this woman standing out by the curb and she had a terrible voice. come here, sonny. i want to show you this. >> yeah, that's the way they took. >> must have been about 90 years old. >> ain't nothing on earth uglier than a 90-year-old white woman. >> he was like a black archie bunker. like old school. >> there's a reason why sanford is irascible. >> a court is where come to get justice, ain't it?

no there are millions of black kids, 3 million black kids in college today. we have black people who are leaders in every possible industry, policy so i just yearn for the caller to recognize the incredible progress has been made and still has to be done but we need to remove this idea that somehow there's a stigma to be a black people. we eradicate that kind of thinking especially for young people. >> janel wilson, did you want to respond? >> i didn't hear him say their work successful black people. i interpreted his comment saying students should be taught about systemic racism because it would help them understand why the united states operates in a way that does you agree is a stigma against being black for having darker complected skin but we do have to recognize that systemic racism does discriminate against people who are black so you can say that you agree that there's racism and say there isn't a stigma, there is. it's just systemic racism so people do have to absolutely exceptions. there are exceptions to every pool because that's the way that capit

for blacks. for as response pretty hard enough with booker t. washington. and they built 5000 booker t schools. 4 million blacks regular 4 million men participated in as a consequence to the residence cool, 9040, education gap rose in six months. we were able to their classrooms were crowded, and have the effect of now with white school. you are able to accomplish this closing of the education gap, in the midst of derelict racism when racism was enshrined in law, the question is why can't we do it today in institutions run by our own people for the past 40 years with expenditures is high it is it is education. though we deserve right to have these questions at least discussed. >> it seems me there's a paradox and what you just said because on the one hand you very much in the school of black history and socialized and i associated with people like carmine woodson and people who focused on will be done. ebony magazine every month and asked, the first this the first that in telling people about wha