that's the anti-blackness which i define as the captain of black people is dangerous. the casting of black people as a threat to the white community, the casting of african americans as a constant. that courses through our history. so as you know i track this from the 17th century all the way up to the 21st century so the response of black gun ownership, the response to black militia is not as surprising in the 21st century. it's one of the things that we said when with the insurrection at the capital, on january 6. that if that had been a group of lack folks storming the capital, it would have been a massacre. so part of what i'm doing with this book is to make legible the things that we know would happen. because of the culture of ethos that is here that black is dangerous. it is what led to kyle rittenhouse who was the white teenager who went up to kenosha wisconsin and was welcomed by the police as he was carrying an ar 15. and shoots three men, killing two of them, seriously wounding one. walks back with his hands up and they don't see him as a threat and he goes

well black's the perception of a threat if i see black it's the crosshairs. zimmerman walked for killing trayvon martin who was unarmed. >> the crime of wearing a hoodie. having read your work what do you see as your overarching thesis for all of your work? obviously you are dealing race and american things like that but do you see it as white rage in tackling the 2nd amendment d.c. this is a larger mosaic is something you're trying to put together or do you go issued to issue? >> is part of a larger mosaic. in my first book i look at the broad array of human rights and african-americans saw their struggles and saw the struggles not as a civil rights issue by the human rights issue. a civil rights issue basically deals with the right to vote the right not to be it legally legally is searched and seized in and the right for assembly and the right to not have cruel and unusual punishment. but human rights are the rights to education and the right to employment and they saw what and jim crow had done was going to take a human rights coalition. the cold war exace

but they try to restrict black rights and black freedom. and put black people as close in a state to slavery as possible. and some of these were agree just. so the mississippi black code was probably the worst. they enact vagrancy laws saying, if a black person is found not working for someone, he can be arrested and find. and in order to pay his fine, he can be leased to the local plantation. and let's say a black man is self employed, he can be defined as a vagrant. they force black people to work in your long contracts to get into plantations. and so they define black labor in the same way as under slavery. in some laws, if one person comes to a black man and offers him more money, he cannot do it if i employ him. that is enticing my labor. is that a free market and wage labor? that is not how it works, right? if you were a wage laborer you would work for the guy who pays you the most. there were apprenticeship laws. normally, apprenticeship was seen as a nice thing. children would be apprentice to a local craftsman, they would learn the

so what you saw happening there black folks carrying guns?hould i close my business what are weso going to do that is standard. think about the tripwire in the first place black men coming to the courthouse where they were held to make sure that justice actually happened in the young men would not be lynched when they came to the courthouse armed they were furious. how dare you believe that you have the right to bear arms and you have a right to challenge us but we will do the result was 35 or 40 blocks wiped out hundreds of people killed. >> it's interesting because asar far as wert know on the steps of the courthouse there was a skirmish someone tried to take someone's gun from them so that played a pivotal role in that moment so talk about white rage witches and encouraging but the issue that you talk about generally is such aat fascinating concept in the sense so much of the issues that you write about are several hundred years ago but i do wonder if we as a society still have this irrational fear of black menus for the most part with thi

this goes for black men and black people as well. i understand that you are able to hold yourself by your bootstraps and that's great but not everyone has the same ability but if we had and is in the system with everyone can do something that's in his or her god-given ability and there should not be an issue. the issue that we are facing in the united states of america is just that once you are a certain color , you are taught by certain institutions and iwould like to hear your comment based on the . >> are you going to let me answer? >> before we hear from doctor swain tell us about yourself. >> i am a teacher at a public high school and i understand the history of this country. 1619, we can go back and forth. we can call it big but the myth is the thing that split this country is racism, racism and it is a sin and i would like to know what is the perspective on the new form of racism. >> we got the point, thank you so much, doctor swain. >> first of all, i empathize with the caller and his effective and i do have two sons, two adu

>> black women. >> other black women, right? even her manufacturing -- this is at the time were black women, beauty manufacturers were supplying her, all the stuff, there was no one, the police chief could go to you and say fire her because she owned her own business, she was economically autonomous. that positioned her and other petitions as well to be able to take risks because they did not have fear of retribution. women and men would lose their jobs all the time if their civil rights activity was found out. that was a big reason. what are some other reasons? yes. >> you mentioned that one of the politicians says that he wants to mobilize mutations because they're like missionaries, and everyone that they come in contact with they make voting as important to them as god. so their proximity to their customers and other people in their communities really allows them to be like missionaries, spread the word. spread activism. >> it's -- any of us who have been to a beauty salon, or have, particularly those who may have a long ter

this goes for black men and black people as well. i understand that you are able to hold yourself by your bootstraps and that's great but not everyone has the same ability but if we had and is in the system with everyone can do something that's in his or her god-given ability and there should not be an issue. the issue that we are facing in the united states of america is just that once you are a certain color , you are taught by certain institutions and iwould like to hear your comment based on the . >> are you going to let me answer? >> before we hear from doctor swain tell us about yourself. >> i am a teacher at a public high school and i understand the history of this country. 1619, we can go back and forth. we can call it big but the myth is the thing that split this country is racism, racism and it is a sin and i would like to know what is the perspective on the new form of racism. >> we got the point, thank you so much, doctor swain. >> first of all, i empathize with the caller and his effective and i do have two sons, two adu

what they do is they start investing in black advertising agencies and black creative marketing and black market research companies. corelle corporation takes mcdonald's on and creates a series of ads that are supposed to speak to the black consumer. there's an anecdote about they tried to sell african-american consumers that you deserve a break today because it doesn't work what break in 1968 america look around. all of this is to say this is something i came to really appreciate during the research of this book. there are not a lot of african-americans on television during this time. it is a very big deal. even when i was a kid growing up in the 80s it was a really big deal to see these commercials. two seat not only actors and actresses and singers, to see black creative talents have a place to start. because producing commercials, being the backup singers, being a dancer in a commercial , this was the platform before the internet. if you spend as much time on youtube's idea, watching old mcdonald's commercials there are some really big stars to get started in these commercials. and so

>> other black women. >> other black women, right?n her manufacturing, this is at the time when black women, beauty manufacturers, who were supplying her products, all their stuff so she wasn't -- there was no one the police chief could go to and say fire her, because she owned her own business. she was economically autonomous. and so that positioned her and other beauticians well to be able to take risks, because they did not have to fear retribution. because women and men would lose their jobs all the time if their civil rights activity was found out. so that's definitely a big reason. what are some other reasons? yes? >> you mentioned how one of the politicians said that the aim to mobilize beauticians because they're like missionaries and everyone they come in contact with, they make voting as important to them as god, so their proximity to their customers and other people in their community really allowed them to be like missionaries and spread the word and spread activism. >> yeah. this is really, any of us who have ever been to

that's the anti-blackness which i define as the captain of black people is dangerous. the casting of black people as a threat to the white community, the casting of african americans as a constant. that courses through our history. so as you know i track this from the 17th century all the way up to the 21st century so the response of black gun ownership, the response to black militia is not as surprising in the 21st century. it's one of the things that we said when with the insurrection at the capital, on january 6. that if that had been a group of lack folks storming the capital, it would have been a massacre. so part of what i'm doing with this book is to make legible the things that we know would happen. because of the culture of ethos that is here that black is dangerous. it is what led to kyle rittenhouse who was the white teenager who went up to kenosha wisconsin and was welcomed by the police as he was carrying an ar 15. and shoots three men, killing two of them, seriously wounding one. walks back with his hands up and they don't see him as a threat and he goes

they were just being black. so the nonviolence was away to short-circuit that traditional fallback narrative. a pubic about that, it's a narrative we are in right now. well, what did he do? he must have done something to get shot.. with the nonviolence in the movement, you also had black folks armed like the deacons defense who were protecting the nonviolent protesters from the violent raining down on them. we got a narrative of the civil rights movement more than it needs to be. you had the militant -- i talk about self-defense black panther party self-defense, they arose for the massive police brutality raining down on black folks and that there was no accountability within the system to bring the police officers to justice to make the violent stop so there were killings, beatings. there were false arrests acts of humiliation and segregation and not a word out of the political legal establishment so the black panther party arose because of that. one of the things they did was they knew the law, they knew calif

they became the backbone of free blacks in america. if you go, out of your black or white. they will probably tell you they are the tent descendents of free blacks. they were people who are of indentured servants. i believe up until 1661, if a slave converted to christianity, they were set free. for 1619 their servitude people were released. some former indigenous servants, they got slaves themselves. they help people in bondage themselves. there was a periodwa when slavery, out of greed was made permanent. it's a part of our nation's history. the other, the 1619 project ignored they fought against slavery, there were whites that set up schools across theco south educate the blacks on their set up by white. america's true history is the story of people working together. we have made mistakes in this country, but one thing about america because of our declaration of independence, because of our christian roots we worked very hard to correct those mistakes. i think that is the part of the american story and that is why america became the envy of the world. >> in your latest b

black as threat. so what you saw happening there, it's also all my gosh, black folks carrying guns. should i close my business? what are we going to do? that is standard and think about the tripwire for the tulsa race massacre in the first place. it was black men coming to the courthouse where dick wilson was being held to try to make sure that justice actually happened and that that young man was not going to be lynched. so when they came to the courthouse farm, it's infuriated that white mob. it was like how dare you believe that you have the right to bear arms. and that you have the right to challenge us in what we're going to do. and the result was 35 to 40 blocks just wiped out. hundreds of people killed. >> it's interesting because as far as we know, on this steps of the courthouse it was a furnished , someone trying to take someone's gun from them that the gun then once all supposedly and the gun played a very much a kind of pivotal role in the l sparking that moment. you've spoken so much about what grade which is in the book and i'd encourage people to read that. all theseb

silver black-owned businesses and black consumers you can find where we are and bl ack.us.ll allow us to make sure that your certified, that there validated, that they are who they say they are . and as we can find them we can support them so that we can grow our communities as well. >> i think we have probably time for a last question of you and that is about keeping hope alive. you've talked both about resilience but how d do you sustain that feeling after what people have been through? >> one of the reasons i think is invest in small businesses. you can't look at an entrepreneur who comes to you with a business plan and not see the hope. this is all about investing in hope and it's all about investing in chances that people who have been incarcerated in the past, people who have been veterans, immigrants, people starting mothers coming out of home life, their starting businesses for a reason. this is one of the most american things i think we could do is to support the energy of entrepreneurs and i think what it takes is a lender who will go the second mile with a busine

we think about their separate set of laws the slave codes and the black codes that govern life for black people were very different from people who are not black. it shifts what we think about in terms of criminality. who becomes a criminal. i thought it was really important to establish that women who are trying to live lives on their terms and many of the ways we would like to, were facing laws that prohibited that. and it impacted their ability to create their own lives and create a liberty for themselves. and so these illegal configurations especially once the american civil war hits and reconstruction. and so we see there interacting with the law in different ways and a different context. not is really important. if the same writing a history of african-american women and i only focus on women in a particular context i'm missing a whole different context that shapes life for them. >> thank you, thank you. thinking more about legality, criminality, doctor can you talk a little bit about the criminal act of 1866 what did it do, what didn't do? and kinda put that into perspective for u

we know black banks and local banks make 70% of their loans to black-owned businesses and homeowners.ers association and across the country, making sure that our businesses have access to capital. we really look at that in terms of where the federal government is with money. and we talk a lot about the stimulus package that happened. we want to make sure that black-owned businesses are participating in this new economy. and most importantly, where are black people spending dollars. usually, corporate america is talking to us. how do we get our share of it? how do we keep dollars in our communities and making sure that we have hospital training. and we have run across the country and understand that many of our businesses fail last year due to the virus. and many of the reason is because of a lack of information that they were able to gain and understand. so the u.s. chamber make sure that business owners have resources and relationships to continue to grow. frances: lisa, ron talked about the significance of the pandemic . we hear that and we know how low income communities have been

it was a form of ejecting our dirt and shame onto black people. and it was a way that we align ourselves or i would say realigned ourselves with the dominant white culture that our propertyseparated us from . i don't have less racism because i grew up poor. ijust learned my place in the racial hierarchy . from a different class position that i would have learned had i been middle-class . i would have learned there too, justdifferent lessons . >> this i thought it important to begin their and kind of give a sense of your own journey. the way in which you use your biography to as a way to disrupt the kind of falls in some ways false dichotomy of the story which is the most important. but i think it's important that we start with your story. that there's a journey to this work. talk a little bit about before we get to the actual book. talk about how life fragility change your life. this book has been, the former was this extraordinary bit, new york times bestseller. number one. out had it transformed you because a lot of the stories in the new book c

white feminist can attend marches have black brown friends and in some cases black and brown themselves. and yet be devoted to an organizational structure and system of knowledge that ensures that black asian and brown women's burien says and needs and priorities remain sidelined. more broadly, to be a white feminist, you simply have to be a person who assess the benefits conferred by white supremacy at the expense of people of color while claiming to support gender equality and solidarity with all women. this book is a critique of whiteness within feminism. it is directed at pointing out what must be broken down in order for something new, something better to take its place. it explains why intervention that simply adds black, asian or brown women to existing structures have not worked because it is a critique. it has not been possible to present the diversity of views that exist among and between black, asian and brown women. others are doing this work, but for that effort be given, this project of dismantling has to be done. this book captures what whiteness has done within the femin

it was cared for by black women. it was attended by black women. that is the kind of lineage that uplifts their experiences. it uplifts their voices. it forces us to look beyond our past. archives are wonderful thing. traveling and doing research. and yet they are limited and they are flawed. what we do know about rose is derived from very muted archival it was first done by an anthropologist. he pieced together bits and pieces about her life looking at south carolina records. i did the same, independently and with some help. what we found weird that mark had found, which is very helpful because it gives us a greater sense of confidence that what we think we know about rose and ashley is probably what took place. and what the story now is is that rose was a young woman enslaved by a man in charleston. a wealthy man, but not —-dash reaping into the upper of the south carolina elites. he did that probably by marrying his wife. herself the daughter of a man who enslaved black people. robert martin, he was sort of a grocery at first. when he became a c

louis of black lives matter march.hey came out of their homes with their guns aimed at the people who did not have weapons. when you think about the language of ron johnson i wasn't afraid of the insurrection because these were law-abiding people that that was black lives matter. so that narrative to be left defenseless with gun safety laws to black people and jonathan does a piece on the familiesve that have dealt with gun violence they are in a support group and the issue of gun safety comes up and they say no. because they will take our gunsns and the folks in st. louis will come and take everything that we have. that is what we're looking at and how that short-circuits common sense. and it says we will be unsafe in our schools we are willing to be unsafe at the grocery store, in church, just so we can supposedly defend ourselves from the horde of black people coming to take everything that we have. host: is it truly possible to be afraid and rational at the same time? how do we get past this if we're operating in t

. # are you ready, black people?rowd: , plus, among the blockbusters, a well—received music documentary that brought to light a little—known festival packed with talent. # i heard it through the grapevine! americans might have wanted to venture to the beach this summer but there was hesitancy when it came to going to the cinema. normally blockbuster season, which covers a period from may until september, brings hollywood more than 40% of its annual revenues. but this year, because of covid—19, that figure was lower. among the top grossing films this blockbuster season were marvel�*s action spy thriller, black widow, f9 — the latest instalment of the fast and furious franchise, and the horrorfilm a quiet place part ii. audience were pleased were to be able to return to cinemas. to be honest, i was almost over the moon excited about — this is my first visit to a theatre since probably 2019. although several would—be blockbusters stumbled at the american box office, the films that flew were those well—suited to watching

it was cared for by black women. it was attended by black women.hat is the kind of lineage that uplifts their experiences. it uplifts their voices. it forces us it forces us to look beyond archives. archives are in once a day was like the clouds parted and yet so what we do know about rose is derived from very limited archival. was first done bye anthropologists and he pieced together bits and pieces about her life looking at south carolina records. i did the same independently and with help of two genealogist and are able to help me with this. and what we found mirrored what alexander had found which was very helpful. it gives us a greater sense of confidence but we think we know is possibly what took place. rose was the young woman enslaved by a man in charleston was a wealthy man but not a filthy rich man. some was striving to reach into the upper echelons of the south carolina elite. he did that probably by marrying his wife she herself was the daughter of the man who enslaved black people in the plantation the western part of the state. he was

. # are you ready, black people? crowd: yes!lockbusters, a well—received music documentary that brought to light a little—known festival packed with talent. # i heard it through the grapevine! americans might have wanted to venture to the beach this summer but there was hesitancy when it came to going to the cinema. normally blockbuster season, which covers a period from may until september, brings hollywood more than 40% of its annual revenues. but this year, because of covid—19, that figure was lower. among the top grossing films this blockbuster season where marvel�*s action spy thriller, black widow, f9 — the latest instalment of the fast and furious franchise, and the horrorfilm a quiet place part ii. audience were pleased were to be able to return to cinemas. to be honest, i was almost over the moon excited about — this is my first visit to a theatre since probably 2019. although several would—be blockbusters stumbled at the american box office, the films that flew were those well—suited to watching in an auditorium as cin

principal briscoe, she is a black woman. she went to a black college. she raised two black sons. earth who can say that she does not care about black children. even the complainant herself has said that briscoe supposedly admitted to doing it to build community and so that no one black child is isolated in a classroom. >> reporter: but the poseys say the principal violated the civil rights act of 1964 in using race to designate classes for black students. posey also alleges an afterschool program she ran at the school was threatened to be cut in retaliation for her complaint. a senior attorney for the naacp legal defense fund believes they have a case, even if the principal says she was trying to do the right thing. >> the concerns about one's child being the lonely only are sincerely felt concerns. but be that as it may, the law is what it is and does not permit children to be assigned to classrooms based on race. >> reporter: in a statement to cnn, briscoe's attorney said she was extremely concerned about the recent allegations of wrongdoing. given that this is an active invest

so i tell the story of black women in the union. and since you started with a story, i'm going to tell you a little bit of a story, too. they say that, well, that history is biographical. in my case, it is. i am an immigrant. and so -- and i sort of went to university and started doing history and very much interested in immigration and, you know, what were women doing? and the story is that -- is that, you know, you have these women coming from the south, from the great migration and also from the british west indis, and that they worked as domestic servants. that's what they did. and then i came across a book, and there was one line in it, and said that, well, they were also garment workers. and i was just fascinated because this was a new narrative. and so i decided that i was going to trace this. and lo and behold, i, you know, i discovered that certainly in the beginning years of the garment industry, there were a sprinkling of black women. i think that in 1910, there might have been about 200 at max, really, a drop in the buck

all: black lives matter!e occurred as a result, there is a change in public opinion and people are opting for life. the kerner commission�*s findings that america was fundamentally racist would be controversial even today, because systemic racism remains a deeply divisive issue here. i am at the martin luther king junior memorial, but what does a civil rights icon have to do with dance? next, the dance theatre of harlem opened its doors to witness history. the company�*s artistic director virginia johnson tells us about how the nation�*s first ballet school to prioritise black dancers began. orchestra warms up. it wasn�*t until i was graduating from the washington school of ballet that the director came to me and she said, "you know, you are going to have a career. "you are a really wonderful dancer but you will never be "a ballerina because of the colour of your skin." it was following the assassination of martin luther king in 1968 that arthur mitchell decided to set up a dance company for black people in h

of an unkamunarmed black man.ng the agencies unchecked boys 9/11 power that allowed agents to violate the own rules against domestic spying. it's no surprise black people don't trust the feds to protect them. come on, man. trust and the fbi is like trusting that when you get to mcdonald's the ice cream machine will be working. come on. [applause] i've got some better ones, hold on. black people seeking justice from the feds is like getting marriage advice from the o.j. simpson couples therapy center. this is a doozy. black people trusting the fbi would be like an ovulating woman trusting nick cannon to pull o out. listen, listen, listen. listen. these institutions are doing exactly what they were built to do. protect the interests of white men. now, the current director of the fbi, chris christopher a. wray s going to make sure. is what, we are going to hold you to it. when we come back, i will tell you exactly where to start. ♪ ♪

, abused black women. very openly. very openly. that's what the o-harris book is about. both of them touch on that, but the o'harris talked about her or traces the history of parks. advocating on behalf of sexually abused black women. black women abused largely by white men and largely under the you had a misses of white supremacy. she made repeated attempts to register to vote in the 1940s. repeated events. as we'll talk about and i'm sure you know to some extent this, too, could be a very dangerous act at this point in time. she protested segregation on the buses before 1955. in fact, she was kicked off a bus by the same bus driver almost a decade earlier for resisting the activities of that bus -- or the instructions of that bus driver. she spoke, she was a featured speaker at the naacp state convention in 1948. i don't think that's an image we generally have of rosa parks. when i was doing my research i found an audio clip of her on a new york radio interview, and i remember hearing her voice for the f

chicago, in the brownsville section, blacks had 731 black-owned businesses in 1929 and $100 million in real estate assets and out of wedlock birth was un9%. jesse: a lot of the money pouring into help black america doesn't always get to where it's supposed to get. you say the race hustlers make money off trying to help black america. >> we have had in one sense we had reparations for 60 years, it is called the poverty program. $22 trillion. 71 cents of every one of those dollars didn't go to the poor. it went to those who serve the poor. we created a commodity where there is a perverse incentive for them to be uplifted. in this essay we pull the covers off this exploitation and begin to tell the real story of black america. there are 0 born slaves who -- there are 20 born slaves who died millionaires. one of them purchased a plantation where they were slaves and they took in the destitute family of the slave owner in an act of radical grace. we want to replace critical race theory. jesse: rescuing american history from revisionists and race hustlers. it's a collection of great essays.

for black --eole. , ., black people. the beckoning of a race in america _ black people.ed . a race in america has posed tough questions for the elite world of art in museums which is a big draw for the crowds here in washington. more than one year after the death of george floyd and the protests which swept dc. are these powerful institutions doing a betterjob of their reflecting the diversity of america. the curator can see a shift happening. i curator can see a shift happening-— curator can see a shift happening. curator can see a shift ha eninu. . ., ., happening. i received an e-mail that they were _ happening. i received an e-mail that they were exhibit _ happening. i received an e-mail that they were exhibit an - that they were exhibit an artist _ that they were exhibit an artist who— that they were exhibit an artist who is _ that they were exhibit an artist who is a _ that they were exhibit an artist who is a nigerian l artist who is a nigerian figurative _ artist who is a nigerian figurative artist- artist who is a nigerian figurative artist and - artist who is a